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JustMX wrote:
I would question this statement. The tea party is a pretty large and broad group as well. Perhaps the biggest difference is that more of them...
I would question this statement.

The tea party is a pretty large and broad group as well.

Perhaps the biggest difference is that more of them seem to have jobs and/or responsibilities that prevent them from camping out for a couple of months.

I also do remember a tea party rally being cancelled because they weren't granted a permit.
I think it's leaning more towards that those old rednecks have a very rigid nap schedule.
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I like the description of Tea Party people as being "curiously well dressed". Awesome.
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Really styling.

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I have a friend who keeps trying to get me to read novels and other fiction. I keep trying to point out to her that NOTHING is more entertaining than reality.
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borg wrote:
I have a friend who keeps trying to get me to read novels and other fiction. I keep trying to point out to her that NOTHING...
I have a friend who keeps trying to get me to read novels and other fiction. I keep trying to point out to her that NOTHING is more entertaining than reality.
That reality will turn to Anarchy if something doesn't change.
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borg wrote:
I have a friend who keeps trying to get me to read novels and other fiction. I keep trying to point out to her that NOTHING...
I have a friend who keeps trying to get me to read novels and other fiction. I keep trying to point out to her that NOTHING is more entertaining than reality.
jmar wrote:
That reality will turn to Anarchy if something doesn't change.
Mark my words here Jim: Nothing's going to change.
Except middle class living standards.
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borg wrote:
I have a friend who keeps trying to get me to read novels and other fiction. I keep trying to point out to her that NOTHING...
I have a friend who keeps trying to get me to read novels and other fiction. I keep trying to point out to her that NOTHING is more entertaining than reality.
jmar wrote:
That reality will turn to Anarchy if something doesn't change.
borg wrote:
Mark my words here Jim: Nothing's going to change.
Except middle class living standards.
And if pushed hard enough, anarchy will take place.
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jmar wrote:
That reality will turn to Anarchy if something doesn't change.
borg wrote:
Mark my words here Jim: Nothing's going to change.
Except middle class living standards.
jmar wrote:
And if pushed hard enough, anarchy will take place.
And result in what?
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borg wrote:
Mark my words here Jim: Nothing's going to change.
Except middle class living standards.
jmar wrote:
And if pushed hard enough, anarchy will take place.
borg wrote:
And result in what?
The end result is a no win for anyone.
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BULLSEYE!!!
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BULLSEYE!!!
Karl

I can't say that I am happy with the 60s hippy mentality that OWS has taken on. But let me ask you one simple question. What would do if you were excising your right to assemble to protest an issue. Then some douche bag cop either sprayed your face with pepper spray, or kept jabbing you in the gut with his club?

I have never met you face to face, but I already know the answer to my question.
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Assemble. Yes. Camp out for 2 months...? No. It's an issue even if I agree with the original principal of the protests. Here, more than 80% were chronic homeless and previous felons...
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Spahnzuki wrote:
Assemble. Yes. Camp out for 2 months...? No. It's an issue even if I agree with the original principal of the protests. Here, more than 80%...
Assemble. Yes. Camp out for 2 months...? No. It's an issue even if I agree with the original principal of the protests. Here, more than 80% were chronic homeless and previous felons...
And you know that as fact because?

I don't agree with what this has turned into, but I believe you are spewing nonsense with that comment.
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jmar wrote:
Karl I can't say that I am happy with the 60s hippy mentality that OWS has taken on. But let me ask you one simple question...
Karl

I can't say that I am happy with the 60s hippy mentality that OWS has taken on. But let me ask you one simple question. What would do if you were excising your right to assemble to protest an issue. Then some douche bag cop either sprayed your face with pepper spray, or kept jabbing you in the gut with his club?

I have never met you face to face, but I already know the answer to my question.
I guess a lot has to do with what was really going on. I went to a Tea Party rally here in Arlington and people were assembled, on platforms speaking thier minds. It was in a public park, and lasted about 3-4 hours. Then everyone left, went home and either implemented some of the plans (like writing Congressmen) or did nothing...Whatever.
It made the news not because of how disruptive the "Protest" was, but rather the subject.

Had we been blocking off the major road in front of the park, shouting down the Police (who from what I gather is not who they are protesting) I'd pretty much expect to get "moved" back to where law allows us to be. If I refused...Blammo.

I'm familliar enough with police "brutality" I got crowned with a flashlight for tossing a beer can in the back of the truck as we were being detained at a local hang out. I was "Tampering with evidence" they thought I was a minor.

My thing is if these people were protesting peaceably, they wouldn't be getting a face douche'.

We have the right to assemble, not disrupt and break the law en masse.
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jmar wrote:
Karl I can't say that I am happy with the 60s hippy mentality that OWS has taken on. But let me ask you one simple question...
Karl

I can't say that I am happy with the 60s hippy mentality that OWS has taken on. But let me ask you one simple question. What would do if you were excising your right to assemble to protest an issue. Then some douche bag cop either sprayed your face with pepper spray, or kept jabbing you in the gut with his club?

I have never met you face to face, but I already know the answer to my question.
SEEMEFIRST wrote:
I guess a lot has to do with what was really going on. I went to a Tea Party rally here in Arlington and people were...
I guess a lot has to do with what was really going on. I went to a Tea Party rally here in Arlington and people were assembled, on platforms speaking thier minds. It was in a public park, and lasted about 3-4 hours. Then everyone left, went home and either implemented some of the plans (like writing Congressmen) or did nothing...Whatever.
It made the news not because of how disruptive the "Protest" was, but rather the subject.

Had we been blocking off the major road in front of the park, shouting down the Police (who from what I gather is not who they are protesting) I'd pretty much expect to get "moved" back to where law allows us to be. If I refused...Blammo.

I'm familliar enough with police "brutality" I got crowned with a flashlight for tossing a beer can in the back of the truck as we were being detained at a local hang out. I was "Tampering with evidence" they thought I was a minor.

My thing is if these people were protesting peaceably, they wouldn't be getting a face douche'.

We have the right to assemble, not disrupt and break the law en masse.
As I said, I am not happy with what OWS has morphed into. But sometimes extreme issues need to be addressed in extreme ways.

This isn't going to get anything but worse if something doesn't change. I know if this was something that you truly believe in, and some jackass cop sprayed you with pepper spray, the fight would be on.
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jmar wrote:
As I said, I am not happy with what OWS has morphed into. But sometimes extreme issues need to be addressed in extreme ways. This isn't...
As I said, I am not happy with what OWS has morphed into. But sometimes extreme issues need to be addressed in extreme ways.

This isn't going to get anything but worse if something doesn't change. I know if this was something that you truly believe in, and some jackass cop sprayed you with pepper spray, the fight would be on.
Jim, you are probably right on the last sentence, but I still believe there is a right and a wrong way to go about getting things done, and breaking the law certainly doesn't help anyone's cause.

Having said that, if the cops came and started bashing the heads of the rally I was at it would have turned into a battle right away. But no one was breaking any laws there.
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jmar wrote:
As I said, I am not happy with what OWS has morphed into. But sometimes extreme issues need to be addressed in extreme ways. This isn't...
As I said, I am not happy with what OWS has morphed into. But sometimes extreme issues need to be addressed in extreme ways.

This isn't going to get anything but worse if something doesn't change. I know if this was something that you truly believe in, and some jackass cop sprayed you with pepper spray, the fight would be on.
SEEMEFIRST wrote:
Jim, you are probably right on the last sentence, but I still believe there is a right and a wrong way to go about getting things...
Jim, you are probably right on the last sentence, but I still believe there is a right and a wrong way to go about getting things done, and breaking the law certainly doesn't help anyone's cause.

Having said that, if the cops came and started bashing the heads of the rally I was at it would have turned into a battle right away. But no one was breaking any laws there.
Again, I don't agree with what OWS has turned into. But if something doesn't change, people are going to arm themselves and start fighting back. You and I could be in that crowd in the near future if things don't change soon.

Things aren't going in the right direction right now, and I don't think people like you, or I are going to be happy with the outcome.
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jmar wrote:
Again, I don't agree with what OWS has turned into. But if something doesn't change, people are going to arm themselves and start fighting back. You...
Again, I don't agree with what OWS has turned into. But if something doesn't change, people are going to arm themselves and start fighting back. You and I could be in that crowd in the near future if things don't change soon.

Things aren't going in the right direction right now, and I don't think people like you, or I are going to be happy with the outcome.
I hear Ya, Brother.
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I can't tell you first hand, but from what I've heard, plenty.
Here's a primmer...
11/10/11: “Send in the Clowns,” Two Dressed as Clowns Arrested at Occupy Wall Street
Hannah Morgan and Louis Jargow were arrested for climbing the barricades surrounding the statue of the bull at Wall Street. They then performed a variety of antics before their arrest for disorderly behavior.

11/10/11: Occupy Atlanta Shelter Tests Positive for Tuberculosis
Several people at the Atlanta shelter have contracted tuberculosis. At least one of those infected has contracted the more dangerous, drug-resistant form of TB. The shelter is one of the largest encampments at Occupy Atlanta.

11/10/11: Six more arrests at Occupy Fresno
Six people were arrested last night in Fresno for failure to disperse. This brings the weekly total of arrests at Occupy Fresno to 55.

11/10/11: Sotheby’s Also Targeted by Occupy Wall Street, 8 Arrested
Eight protesters were arrested for attempting to storm Sotheby’s during its final sale of the fall season. They were there in support of the Teamsters union, which is currently engaged in a labor dispute with Sotheby’s.

11/10/11: Man Shot to Death at Occupy Oakland
A young man was shot fatally in the head outside the Occupy Oakland gathering Thursday evening. There are still no suspects or leads in the case.

11/9/11: 39 Arrests at Berkeley
Thirty-nine people were arrested at Berkeley as part of OccupyCal. Protesters set up tents despite Chancellor Robert Birgeneau’s request that they refrain. Thirty-two students and one faculty member were among those arrested. The majority of the arrests were for obstruction of justice or unlawful assembly. Two arrests were for assault and battery.

11/9/11: Occupy Wall Street Protester Assaults EMT
An EMT was injured at Occupy Wall Street. Joshua Ehrenberg, 20, of Rochester, NY, was arrested for felony assault and obstructing governmental administration for attacking the EMT. The EMT was injured when Mr. Ehrenberg’s friends, in an attempt to prevent NYPD officers from assisting the EMT, fell on either a barricade or a ladder, which trapped the EMT underneath. The EMT suffered injuries to his ankle and knee.

11/9/11: Occupy Wall Street Protester Arrested for Public Lewdness
Xavier Maslowsky, 25, was arrested for exposing himself to others at Zuccotti Park.

11/9/11: Occupy Wall Street Protesters Arrested for Blocking Sidewalk with Square-Dance Lesson
A group of 50 protesters staged a square dance on the sidewalk around the plaza at Liberty and Cedar. The revelers were told repeatedly to disperse. Zachary Kamul, 25, was given two summonses for disorderly conduct and possession of a weapon when he refused to disperse. Sebastian Posada, 24, was charged with disorderly conduct and resisting arrest when he attempted to run from police into the middle of Broadway.

11/5/11: Man Arrested at Occupy Wall Street for Urinating on an NYPD van
Edgar Rivera, 26, was arrested for relieving himself at 1:20 a.m. on an NYPD van. He attempted to escape, but was captured a half a block away. He was charged with disorderly conduct.
11/5/11: 19 Arrested at Occupy Atlanta
Protesters gathered in support of police pressure on Occupy Atlanta were subjected to arrests. Two were arrested for failing to leave Woodruff Park after the 11 p.m. close and 17 were arrested for obstructing traffic after leaving the park.

11/5/11: 20 Arrested at Occupy Wall Street
Most of the protesters were arrested for disorderly conduct, though three were arrested for assaulting a police officer. The incidents occurred at Foley Square in Lower Manhattan, near the New York State Court of Appeals. According to witnesses, police had asked the protesters to refrain from blocking the sidewalks and the stairs to the courthouse.

11/5/11: Woman arrested at Occupy LA for setting another person’s clothes on fire
She was charged with suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon.

11/5/11: Woman arrested at Occupy LA for striking a man with a tent pole
She was charged with suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon.

11/4/11: Occupy Fort Carson Protester Arrested for $10 Million Arson
Benjamin Gilmore, 29, was arrested on suspicion of arson, burglary, and criminal mischief in connection to a fire on October 24 in a construction site.

11/4/11: Occupy Wall Street protester arrested for violence in McDonald’s
Fisika Bezabeh rioted inside the McDonald’s by Wall Street at 2 a.m., when workers refused to give him free food. He tore a credit card reader from the counter and threw it at employees. Mr. Bezabeh has been charged with criminal mischief.

11/4/11: Bronx Teacher Arrested for Assaulting Police
David Suker of Bronx Regional High School was arrested for knocking a police officer off his scooter using a shopping cart. He is charged with attempted assault, disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, and obstructing governmental administration. This is his second arrest; he was previously arrested during the October 1 march across the Brooklyn Bridge.

11/4/11: Occupy DC Attacks Americans for Prosperity event
Protesters attempted to storm the building where the AFP was holding a conference. Afterwards, they assaulted two elderly women, sending them to the hospital, and blockaded the streets surrounding the building.

11/3/11: 15 Arrested Outside Goldman Sachs
Fifteen protesters were arrested outside Goldman Sachs, including Christopher Hedges of The Nation Institute and Reverend Billy of the Church of Earthalajuh. The protesters staged a trial of Goldman Sachs executives and were arrested when they proceeded to sit and block the entrance to Goldman Sachs.

11/3/11: Occupy Oakland Riots
Riot police used tear gas and other methods to disperse Occupy Oakland rioters. The protesters lit barricades on fire, hurled rocks, explosives, and other projectiles at police. Massive acts of vandalism were committed against several banks. Several dozen were eventually arrested.

11/2/11: Occupy Philadelphia takes over Comcast Headquarters
Occupy Philadelphia protesters sat in Comcast’s lobby and demanded repayment of its tax abatement. Nine were arrested for trespass.

11/2/11: Tonye Ikebutosin Arrested for Rape at Occupy Wall Street
A 26-year-old man from Crown Heights was arrested for the sexual assault and rape of a fellow Occupy Wall Street protester. He raped the 18-year-old woman after sharing a tent with her. He is also accused of sexually assaulting a 17-year-old woman after helping her set up her tent. Iketubosin has been working in the Occupy Wall Street kitchen.

10/27/11: 14 Arrested in NYC for March in Support of Occupy Oakland
Protesters took over the streets and marched through lower Manhattan, resulting in arrests for disorderly conduct, rioting, and resisting arrest.

10/25/11: 53 Arrests at Occupy Atlanta
Fifty-three people were arrested at Occupy Atlanta. Among those arrested was State Senator Vincent Fort. This was a reversal from the previous acceptance of Occupy Atlanta by Atlanta mayor Kasim Reed. Mayor Reed explained his decision by saying, “Occupy Atlanta protesters attempted to hold an unsanctioned concert over the weekend … Last week, demonstrators inserted wire hangers into electrical sockets to create additional power sources … [There has been] a persistent and dangerous disregard for public safety.”

10/25/11: 75 Arrested During Attempted Clearing of Occupy Oakland
Police arrested 75 people while attempting to disperse the Occupy Oakland encampment.

10/23/11: David Park, serial sexual assaulter, arrested
David Park, who attempted to rape several women, was finally arrested by the NYPD. The women declined to press charges, but the NYPD held him on an open-container violation.

10/22/11: NYPD arrests 30 in OWS March in Harlem
Police arrested 30 protesters, including Cornel West, for blocking the entrance to the Harlem police precinct. The protesters were demonstrating against the NYPD’s “stop and frisk” procedures.

10/14/11: 14 Arrested by NYPD in Marches Connected with Park Cleaning
Fourteen protesters arrested despite Mayor Bloomberg’s decision to halt the cleaning of the park.

10/1/11: 700 Arrested for March Across the Brooklyn Bridge
Seven hundred Occupy Wall Street protesters were arrested for disorderly conduct and blocking vehicular traffic when they proceeded to block the roadway on the Brooklyn Bridge.
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I don't know. Again, I wasn't there, but with the world watching you'd think they'd be careful.
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These people are not even smart enough to know who to complain to. I hope they keep it up, it helps the Republicans as more and more people turn against the OWS people. The original beef which was legitimate but ill aimed and it just shows where they are coming from.
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Sure they're all Republicans. You don't even think so because if they were you would be Happy about my post but..........You are too easy.
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Spahnzuki wrote:
Assemble. Yes. Camp out for 2 months...? No. It's an issue even if I agree with the original principal of the protests. Here, more than 80%...
Assemble. Yes. Camp out for 2 months...? No. It's an issue even if I agree with the original principal of the protests. Here, more than 80% were chronic homeless and previous felons...
jmar wrote:
And you know that as fact because? I don't agree with what this has turned into, but I believe you are spewing nonsense with that comment...
And you know that as fact because?

I don't agree with what this has turned into, but I believe you are spewing nonsense with that comment.
Because I drive by it almost every morning and I have friends on the local police and fire that deal with it every freakin day.
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Fox news is crazy saying OWS is done, just shows how "fair and balanced" they are. Seems to be just getting started. I have not been out to see any protests yet but I do appreciate the fact that it has changed the discussion in this country. People are now talking about how money in politics has corrupted the whole system and the growing disparity between the top and everyone else.


http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/02/income-inequality-in-america-ch…
11/18/2011 9:19am
Mr. G wrote:
These people are not even smart enough to know who to complain to. I hope they keep it up, it helps the Republicans as more and...
These people are not even smart enough to know who to complain to. I hope they keep it up, it helps the Republicans as more and more people turn against the OWS people. The original beef which was legitimate but ill aimed and it just shows where they are coming from.
The OWS movement isn't Republican or Democratic. In fact, yesterday's protest was for the most part peaceful. Sometimes you have to take everything into consideration when you're getting information from the news media. It's their job to capture the right angles of a scene and decide whether to use a close up angle or draw back the camera. You can manipulate public opinion in many ways. Especially, if it sells. For the most part, the OWS march was peaceful and that doesn't make good interesting news to report.
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11/18/2011 9:36am
LOL @ some of these idiots. Some of you guys really know how to pick a winning cause to get behind.

The Daily Show on OWS
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11/18/2011 9:38am
i beleive there is threats of molotov cocktails being used/made doesnt sound to peacefull
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11/18/2011 9:45am Edited Date/Time 11/18/2011 9:53am
jconc1941 wrote:
i beleive there is threats of molotov cocktails being used/made doesnt sound to peacefull [img]https:// fitness/upload/36/c/wink.gif[/img]
i beleive there is threats of molotov cocktails being used/made doesnt sound to peacefull
LOL Smile

A few Ryder truck car bombs at the stock exchange might be more effective to help their cause.
Not sure how "molotov cocktails" would help their cause any.

Would also get this shit ended quickly...and they could go back to their flower & organic food farms & phish concerts.
Or go to DC where the real enemy of the people are and camp out to annoy for attention.

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