Would bruce lee win in UFC?

UpTiTe 11/12/2011 5:59pm
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Vale Tudo from Brazil would be the original MMA and Vale Tudo existed before Bruce was born. People who sparred with him were far from skilled...
Vale Tudo from Brazil would be the original MMA and Vale Tudo existed before Bruce was born. People who sparred with him were far from skilled in fighting if you compare to todays MMA fighters. Bruce Lee was absolutely a good martial arts practitioner, but one has to be quite ignorant about combat sports to think that he would stand a chance in todays MMA. He was an actor, lets face it, his characters in the movies were not him, they were just that-move characters. It amazes me that people really believe that Bruce could win a UFC fight?
Best post in this whole thread.
gabrielmalinois 11/12/2011 6:26pm
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I guess it depends on who he is fighting, if you took him to a gym and let him fight some people who were training there...
I guess it depends on who he is fighting, if you took him to a gym and let him fight some people who were training there, sure. If you put him in a UFC event it would depend on who he is fighting, a new guy maybe, an expeireance, no. Lee was 5'7" @165, so his fighting weight would be around 145 and there is some tough fighters at 145. I'm not claining to be a bad ass, far from it, but I have trained MMA style for along time, and have 3 fights, and watching video of Bruce Lee I guarantee you that Kenny Florian and Jose Aldo both destroy him. If he fights 155 I think Frankie Edger and BJ Penn both detroy him. I think because of Lee's quiks and style he would beat a guy like Clay Guida on points but he sure wouldn't knock him down or submit him..

To say that Lee comes in and beats any MMA fighter is stupid, there is no way in hell he beats JSP, EVER. And to say he would take down Lesnar is retarded. Its funny how people underestimate UFC guys and how tough stand up and ground fighting really is. Guys that think they have are good street fighters come into our gym a lot and get it handed to them, its not nearly as easy as some may think.
Those guys would be choking on their own blood in 10 seconds.
UpTiTe 11/12/2011 6:44pm
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UpTiTe wrote:
I guess it depends on who he is fighting, if you took him to a gym and let him fight some people who were training there...
I guess it depends on who he is fighting, if you took him to a gym and let him fight some people who were training there, sure. If you put him in a UFC event it would depend on who he is fighting, a new guy maybe, an expeireance, no. Lee was 5'7" @165, so his fighting weight would be around 145 and there is some tough fighters at 145. I'm not claining to be a bad ass, far from it, but I have trained MMA style for along time, and have 3 fights, and watching video of Bruce Lee I guarantee you that Kenny Florian and Jose Aldo both destroy him. If he fights 155 I think Frankie Edger and BJ Penn both detroy him. I think because of Lee's quiks and style he would beat a guy like Clay Guida on points but he sure wouldn't knock him down or submit him..

To say that Lee comes in and beats any MMA fighter is stupid, there is no way in hell he beats JSP, EVER. And to say he would take down Lesnar is retarded. Its funny how people underestimate UFC guys and how tough stand up and ground fighting really is. Guys that think they have are good street fighters come into our gym a lot and get it handed to them, its not nearly as easy as some may think.
gabrielmalinois wrote:
Those guys would be choking on their own blood in 10 seconds.
Go ahead and explain that to me.
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J.F.S wrote:
Vale Tudo from Brazil would be the original MMA and Vale Tudo existed before Bruce was born. People who sparred with him were far from skilled...
Vale Tudo from Brazil would be the original MMA and Vale Tudo existed before Bruce was born. People who sparred with him were far from skilled in fighting if you compare to todays MMA fighters. Bruce Lee was absolutely a good martial arts practitioner, but one has to be quite ignorant about combat sports to think that he would stand a chance in todays MMA. He was an actor, lets face it, his characters in the movies were not him, they were just that-move characters. It amazes me that people really believe that Bruce could win a UFC fight?
Cung Le is a fighter /movie star and he's won MMA fights. If Bruce Lee was still around he would just adapt to all the new styles. He was a smart athlete so no problem in him adapting to today's standard . Junior Dos Santos just beat the piss out of one of the best wrestlers in the UFC in 1 round. And he's mostly a boxer. Yes Bruce Lee would win and lose fights in the UFC

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CR250Rider 11/12/2011 6:57pm
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Bruce Lee would have definitely lasted longer than Cain Velasquez
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Bruce Lee would have definitely lasted longer than Cain Velasquez
Not against Dos Santos.
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Chuck Norris would kick all their asses. He doesn't fight UFC because he doesn't want to go to jail.
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Chuck was the real deal!









Norris in 1976.
Norris was defeated in his first two tournaments, dropping decisions to Joe Lewis and Allen Steen and three matches at the International Karate Championships to Tony Tulleners. By 1967 Norris had improved enough that he scored victories over the likes of Lewis, Skipper Mullins, Arnold Urquidez, Victor Moore, Ron Marchini, and Steve Sanders. In early 1968, Norris suffered the tenth and last loss of his career, losing an upset decision to Louis Delgado. On November 24, 1968, he avenged his defeat to Delgado and by doing so won the Professional Middleweight Karate champion title, which he held for six consecutive years.[8] In 1969, he won Karate's triple crown for the most tournament wins of the year, and the Fighter of the Year award by Black Belt Magazine.

It is occasionally cited that Norris made history in 1997 when he was the first Westerner in the documented history of Tae Kwon Do to be given the rank of 8th Degree Black Belt Grand Master.[12] However, Norris appears to have been misled about this as there were at least two other U.S. Black Belts (Charles 'Chuck' Sereff and Edward Sell[13][14]) awarded TKD 8th Dan several years prior. On July 1, 2000, Norris was presented the Golden Lifetime Achievement Award by the World Karate Union Hall of Fame.
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UpTiTe wrote:
I guess it depends on who he is fighting, if you took him to a gym and let him fight some people who were training there...
I guess it depends on who he is fighting, if you took him to a gym and let him fight some people who were training there, sure. If you put him in a UFC event it would depend on who he is fighting, a new guy maybe, an expeireance, no. Lee was 5'7" @165, so his fighting weight would be around 145 and there is some tough fighters at 145. I'm not claining to be a bad ass, far from it, but I have trained MMA style for along time, and have 3 fights, and watching video of Bruce Lee I guarantee you that Kenny Florian and Jose Aldo both destroy him. If he fights 155 I think Frankie Edger and BJ Penn both detroy him. I think because of Lee's quiks and style he would beat a guy like Clay Guida on points but he sure wouldn't knock him down or submit him..

To say that Lee comes in and beats any MMA fighter is stupid, there is no way in hell he beats JSP, EVER. And to say he would take down Lesnar is retarded. Its funny how people underestimate UFC guys and how tough stand up and ground fighting really is. Guys that think they have are good street fighters come into our gym a lot and get it handed to them, its not nearly as easy as some may think.
gabrielmalinois wrote:
Those guys would be choking on their own blood in 10 seconds.
UpTiTe wrote:
Go ahead and explain that to me.
You have seen the one inch punch, just imagine what a three inch punch would do.
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Do really think anyone would land a hit on Bruce Lee?
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Bruce Lee was a very fit, and talented actor that was a master of scripted "made for tv" kata moves. There is nothing scripted about climbing in a ring with another very skilled, tough MFer that's trying to put you down for a nap in the middle of the ring.

I have personally watched Chuck Norris, climb in a ring with Bill Superfoot Wallace, and he didn't fare so well. That's when MAA was just getting started out and was called "full contact martial arts". At that point and time, it was more like kick boxing.


BTW: There are no real Rambo's out there, that could take on an entire platoon of vietnamese soldiers, and we can't really send a space ship to land on an asteroid with drilling rigs, to drill a hole plant a nuke and blow the thing up.
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BUTCH 11/13/2011 8:19am
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Again, at one time Chuck Norris was a champion karate man and has a 8th degree black belt in Tae kwon doe grand master.
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jmar 11/13/2011 8:26am
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Again, at one time Chuck Norris was a champion karate man and has a 8th degree black belt in Tae kwon doe grand master.
Yes he was, but being a TKD Grand Master, and getting in the ring for a slug and choke fest are two very different things, and both require very different skills.
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jmar wrote:
Bruce Lee was a very fit, and talented actor that was a master of scripted "made for tv" kata moves. There is nothing scripted about climbing...
Bruce Lee was a very fit, and talented actor that was a master of scripted "made for tv" kata moves. There is nothing scripted about climbing in a ring with another very skilled, tough MFer that's trying to put you down for a nap in the middle of the ring.

I have personally watched Chuck Norris, climb in a ring with Bill Superfoot Wallace, and he didn't fare so well. That's when MAA was just getting started out and was called "full contact martial arts". At that point and time, it was more like kick boxing.


BTW: There are no real Rambo's out there, that could take on an entire platoon of vietnamese soldiers, and we can't really send a space ship to land on an asteroid with drilling rigs, to drill a hole plant a nuke and blow the thing up.
Bruce Lee was definitely a martial artist more than an actor. He fought in real street fights. No rings, no holds barred, opponent trying to kill him. Literally.
TripleFive 11/13/2011 9:36am
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Do really think anyone would land a hit on Bruce Lee?
He'd get taken down and pounded.

How was Bruce in the clinch?


I feel like the Bruce Lee fanboys are trolling here.
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BUTCH wrote:
Again, at one time Chuck Norris was a champion karate man and has a 8th degree black belt in Tae kwon doe grand master.
jmar wrote:
Yes he was, but being a TKD Grand Master, and getting in the ring for a slug and choke fest are two very different things, and...
Yes he was, but being a TKD Grand Master, and getting in the ring for a slug and choke fest are two very different things, and both require very different skills.
Surely Chuck in his prime could have been in the UFC, he was a 6 time Karate champion first, actor second. Different skills ...yes. Many mma fighters started out being just wrestlers and then learn the other skills need to compete in mma/ufc. Bruce Lee and Chuck both could have done this .

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jmar 11/13/2011 10:27am
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jmar wrote:
Bruce Lee was a very fit, and talented actor that was a master of scripted "made for tv" kata moves. There is nothing scripted about climbing...
Bruce Lee was a very fit, and talented actor that was a master of scripted "made for tv" kata moves. There is nothing scripted about climbing in a ring with another very skilled, tough MFer that's trying to put you down for a nap in the middle of the ring.

I have personally watched Chuck Norris, climb in a ring with Bill Superfoot Wallace, and he didn't fare so well. That's when MAA was just getting started out and was called "full contact martial arts". At that point and time, it was more like kick boxing.


BTW: There are no real Rambo's out there, that could take on an entire platoon of vietnamese soldiers, and we can't really send a space ship to land on an asteroid with drilling rigs, to drill a hole plant a nuke and blow the thing up.
uk125250 wrote:
Bruce Lee was definitely a martial artist more than an actor. He fought in real street fights. No rings, no holds barred, opponent trying to kill...
Bruce Lee was definitely a martial artist more than an actor. He fought in real street fights. No rings, no holds barred, opponent trying to kill him. Literally.
So there are records of these street fights?
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J.F.S 11/13/2011 10:59am
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jmar wrote:
Bruce Lee was a very fit, and talented actor that was a master of scripted "made for tv" kata moves. There is nothing scripted about climbing...
Bruce Lee was a very fit, and talented actor that was a master of scripted "made for tv" kata moves. There is nothing scripted about climbing in a ring with another very skilled, tough MFer that's trying to put you down for a nap in the middle of the ring.

I have personally watched Chuck Norris, climb in a ring with Bill Superfoot Wallace, and he didn't fare so well. That's when MAA was just getting started out and was called "full contact martial arts". At that point and time, it was more like kick boxing.


BTW: There are no real Rambo's out there, that could take on an entire platoon of vietnamese soldiers, and we can't really send a space ship to land on an asteroid with drilling rigs, to drill a hole plant a nuke and blow the thing up.
uk125250 wrote:
Bruce Lee was definitely a martial artist more than an actor. He fought in real street fights. No rings, no holds barred, opponent trying to kill...
Bruce Lee was definitely a martial artist more than an actor. He fought in real street fights. No rings, no holds barred, opponent trying to kill him. Literally.
Bruce Lee majored in acting, he was a child actor, he was an actor with martial arts skills, he started acting before he started martial arts, you asked a question, you got the answer. No Bruce Lee would not stand a chance in the UFC, deal with it even if it wasnt the answer you would have liked to get. Enter the Dragon is not a documentary, lets face it.
Would Evel Kneivel win a gold medal at the x-games?
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jmar wrote:
Bruce Lee was a very fit, and talented actor that was a master of scripted "made for tv" kata moves. There is nothing scripted about climbing...
Bruce Lee was a very fit, and talented actor that was a master of scripted "made for tv" kata moves. There is nothing scripted about climbing in a ring with another very skilled, tough MFer that's trying to put you down for a nap in the middle of the ring.

I have personally watched Chuck Norris, climb in a ring with Bill Superfoot Wallace, and he didn't fare so well. That's when MAA was just getting started out and was called "full contact martial arts". At that point and time, it was more like kick boxing.


BTW: There are no real Rambo's out there, that could take on an entire platoon of vietnamese soldiers, and we can't really send a space ship to land on an asteroid with drilling rigs, to drill a hole plant a nuke and blow the thing up.
uk125250 wrote:
Bruce Lee was definitely a martial artist more than an actor. He fought in real street fights. No rings, no holds barred, opponent trying to kill...
Bruce Lee was definitely a martial artist more than an actor. He fought in real street fights. No rings, no holds barred, opponent trying to kill him. Literally.
J.F.S wrote:
Bruce Lee majored in acting, he was a child actor, he was an actor with martial arts skills, he started acting before he started martial arts...
Bruce Lee majored in acting, he was a child actor, he was an actor with martial arts skills, he started acting before he started martial arts, you asked a question, you got the answer. No Bruce Lee would not stand a chance in the UFC, deal with it even if it wasnt the answer you would have liked to get. Enter the Dragon is not a documentary, lets face it.
Would Evel Kneivel win a gold medal at the x-games?
I don't know what alternate universe your history of Bruce Lee comes from, but it's not the real one. His father was a Cantonese Opera and film star, and they went to Hong Kong when Bruce was a few months old to tour with an opera in 1941, but the japanese invasion intervened. Bruce Lee grew up during and after WW2 in Hong Kong, and went through primary school surviving the toughs of the gangs and triads. He was in trouble frequently because of his fighting. Because of his fighting, his parents decided to begin teaching him martial arts, and at the age of 13 he entered the study of Wing Chun under Yip Man. He was constantly persecuted for having some eurasian ancestry through his mother's side because at that time many Chinese felt the martial arts were only for pure blood Chinese.

Bruce Lee's personal involvement with acting didn't happen until after he had been moved back to the US by his family to get him out of the danger of fighting the triads and gangs (and possibly a contract on his life) in 1959 when he was 18. In 1961, he entered the University of Washington in the drama school.
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Bruce lee would kill everything!
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And Tom Cruise would kick everyone's ass in NASCAR.
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Maybe, All you have to do is turn left.
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FlickitFlat wrote:
Maybe, All you have to do is turn left.
And all you have to do in MMA is do kata's, do back flips scream like a cat that's on fire.
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J.F.S wrote:
Bruce Lee majored in acting, he was a child actor, he was an actor with martial arts skills, he started acting before he started martial arts...
Bruce Lee majored in acting, he was a child actor, he was an actor with martial arts skills, he started acting before he started martial arts, you asked a question, you got the answer. No Bruce Lee would not stand a chance in the UFC, deal with it even if it wasnt the answer you would have liked to get. Enter the Dragon is not a documentary, lets face it.
Would Evel Kneivel win a gold medal at the x-games?
Sorry but that last part with Evel Kneivel is a stupid comparison
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J.F.S 11/13/2011 10:18pm
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J.F.S wrote:
Bruce Lee majored in acting, he was a child actor, he was an actor with martial arts skills, he started acting before he started martial arts...
Bruce Lee majored in acting, he was a child actor, he was an actor with martial arts skills, he started acting before he started martial arts, you asked a question, you got the answer. No Bruce Lee would not stand a chance in the UFC, deal with it even if it wasnt the answer you would have liked to get. Enter the Dragon is not a documentary, lets face it.
Would Evel Kneivel win a gold medal at the x-games?
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Sorry but that last part with Evel Kneivel is a stupid comparison
Actually it is spot on, the difference is that you know something about Moto but you are clueless regarding martial arts maybe?

BTW, this guy would kick Lees asz, nice techniques!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6cmS2DR0bk
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jmar wrote:
Bruce Lee was a very fit, and talented actor that was a master of scripted "made for tv" kata moves. There is nothing scripted about climbing...
Bruce Lee was a very fit, and talented actor that was a master of scripted "made for tv" kata moves. There is nothing scripted about climbing in a ring with another very skilled, tough MFer that's trying to put you down for a nap in the middle of the ring.

I have personally watched Chuck Norris, climb in a ring with Bill Superfoot Wallace, and he didn't fare so well. That's when MAA was just getting started out and was called "full contact martial arts". At that point and time, it was more like kick boxing.


BTW: There are no real Rambo's out there, that could take on an entire platoon of vietnamese soldiers, and we can't really send a space ship to land on an asteroid with drilling rigs, to drill a hole plant a nuke and blow the thing up.
Bruce Lee did not practice katas.

Chuck Norris never stepped into a ring with Bill Wallace in a full contact fight, except for in a movie. Norris did not compete in any full contact fights at all.
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jmar wrote:
Bruce Lee was a very fit, and talented actor that was a master of scripted "made for tv" kata moves. There is nothing scripted about climbing...
Bruce Lee was a very fit, and talented actor that was a master of scripted "made for tv" kata moves. There is nothing scripted about climbing in a ring with another very skilled, tough MFer that's trying to put you down for a nap in the middle of the ring.

I have personally watched Chuck Norris, climb in a ring with Bill Superfoot Wallace, and he didn't fare so well. That's when MAA was just getting started out and was called "full contact martial arts". At that point and time, it was more like kick boxing.


BTW: There are no real Rambo's out there, that could take on an entire platoon of vietnamese soldiers, and we can't really send a space ship to land on an asteroid with drilling rigs, to drill a hole plant a nuke and blow the thing up.
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Bruce Lee did not practice katas. Chuck Norris never stepped into a ring with Bill Wallace in a full contact fight, except for in a movie...
Bruce Lee did not practice katas.

Chuck Norris never stepped into a ring with Bill Wallace in a full contact fight, except for in a movie. Norris did not compete in any full contact fights at all.
I am afraid you are wrong. I attended a fight in 79 or 80 and they fought.

And now Bruce Lee never practiced katas?

OK

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