Aware me on these Hippy and Hick guys

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11/11/2011 12:09pm Edited Date/Time 11/11/2011 12:11pm
Can somebody make cliff notes on what these guys have said Please !!!!!!! Thanks
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11/11/2011 1:06pm
DMG wrote:
I know one of the guys and we talked about it. He said there was no plan going into that show and once one of them...
I know one of the guys and we talked about it. He said there was no plan going into that show and once one of them went down the road he said he just started talking, I dont think he regrets it but he knows he doesnt want to throw riders under the bus any more.

With that said, if professional SX stars dont want shit talked about them they should pay their bills and not screw anyone they want. With the pure lack of reporting anything remotely damaging in this sport a show like this was bound to happen. The riders and mechanics have become rockstars in this little sport and they now think their shit dont stink, mixed with the fact tthat every reporter kisses their ass and is afraid to hold anyone accountable and you have a group of spoiled athletes that what ever they want. What those guys said on that show is the tip of what they could have said. With the money these guys make and the way most have been treated and sheltered their whole lives, this shit shouldnt surprise anyone.

Yea they said shit they shouldnt have, but you guys are keeping the fire burning by not letting it go. There is enough feedback to keep that show going, and it will if people keep talking about it.

Disclaimer: I am in no way affiliated with that show and have never called in, I just know one of them.
DMG.....You hit the nail on the head with this post and the ........God forbid anyone let out the "secretive world of sx/mx racing" .....You wont go to heaven and will be banished forever from the pits Grinning

Its sometimes shameful the way this sport conducts itself with the media/press sometimes media guys poke a little and get repremanded so the next time they touch on the subject you can clearly see the difference in their reporting.....IF this sport ever did become mainstream some (not all) of these "reporters" would be scoffed at, if say espn or any other sports juggernauts took interest in this cottage industry they would have A LOT to talk about somehow they get the story and report it without fear of being banned by MLB or a specific polayer......Good bad or indifferent fans like to hear about things that go on behind the scenes, which is attributed to intense popularity of the pulp show, fans WANT to hear about things other than the race ....most of us already saw the race, I look forward to each and every show......I am equally frustrated with DMG regarding the lack of accountability some reporters hold with fear of being banned from the sport. Its painfully easy to see them dancing around of ANYTHING other than disney-esque stories that are put out ...."Someone did something that is gonna turn the world upside down.....BUT I cant say anything"....."I know what happened....BUT I cant say anything" I am not blaming the media 100% but the industy as a whole is just as bad.....banning reporters because of something they said makes them not report the real story so they can continue to do their job it goes hand in hand Sick

I for one wish the sport was more open and accessble to the fans and I it doesnt ALWAYS have to be about a riders dirty laundry or an industry guy that did something to someone or someone got scewed over money" There is plenty to report that doesnt have to be bad but there are things that are swept under the rug that we as fans would like to hear.

Does anyone know where I can find the supposedly slanderous shows?
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11/11/2011 1:59pm
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11/11/2011 3:01pm
I just listened to a few shows and they sound like a personal cell phone call. Kind of hard to listen to.

But I have to admit - I liked it. Friday Night Smackdown was a good show.

Why was this show taken off the air? And by whom?

Although I loved the way they named names - there is no way a show like this could last, it is based completely on hearsay and could end up to be very damaging for some possibly innocent people. Spouting off rumors as if they are fact does not make them fact.

When you publicly name names you have to be ready for some backlash - because it will come.

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11/12/2011 12:13pm Edited Date/Time 11/12/2011 12:17pm
I listened to some of the shows last night trying to find the episode in question but I couldn't find it. I had to stop listening when Uptite started singing "Friday". I was so embarrassed for him. That was humiliating. Almost as bad as his attempt at self depricating humor by talking about his fan club and how great he is on a dirt bike.

When it was all said and done, listening to those shows and seeing the baseball bat spectacle made me realize how backwoods and trashy this sport must look to the average Joe. And I still couldn't find the clip. Sad times to be a true moto fan.

Before you tell me that the dude wasn't seeking publicity for the bat incident, go back and look at his twitter. He was blowing up espn trying to tell them the story. Then, to sit his two daughters in front of a camera and portray them as victims was disgusting. Those girls didn't deserve that. If he wasn't looking for anything then please explain that.
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11/13/2011 7:27am Edited Date/Time 11/13/2011 7:30am
Shit, nothing changes. People are fussing about the same shit they always did.

1. Stop worrying about the lack of "real dirt" reporting from the regulars. It's not going to change. If you want to see inside pics and read decent interviews, these require some kind of trust between people in the sport and the reporter. You can't expect regular reporters to write about who bangs whose chic or whose trainer knows "PEDs" and then expect things to stay normal.

If you want to bitch about media, consider that the same company that runs the nats is also a mag publisher, website, and is in the middle of everything, and most of you are chicken to admit it that is seriously fucked up. Yer scared to. Yer bigger chickens than the reporters!

2. Stop worrying about PEDs. They exist. They work. They make sense if done right. They are a problem if done wrong. Don't expect media to write about whose trainer knows what.

Note that the Epstein Barr epidemic went away about the same time trainers from cycling appeared. It's not rocket science people. Riders that do their PEDs (like testosterone) right are the smart ones. They are doing these things to battle fatigue from long seasons as much as they are for performance. As long as they don't overdo it, they will be healthier in the long run, and it's not hurting anyone.

Don't expect top riders to do long seasons, train all year, and wear themselves out and not do anything about it. It's too bad that the public can't handle the truth, but that's the way it is. It won't change.
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11/13/2011 7:36am Edited Date/Time 11/13/2011 8:23am
TFS wrote:
Shit, nothing changes. People are fussing about the same shit they always did. 1. Stop worrying about the lack of "real dirt" reporting from the regulars...
Shit, nothing changes. People are fussing about the same shit they always did.

1. Stop worrying about the lack of "real dirt" reporting from the regulars. It's not going to change. If you want to see inside pics and read decent interviews, these require some kind of trust between people in the sport and the reporter. You can't expect regular reporters to write about who bangs whose chic or whose trainer knows "PEDs" and then expect things to stay normal.

If you want to bitch about media, consider that the same company that runs the nats is also a mag publisher, website, and is in the middle of everything, and most of you are chicken to admit it that is seriously fucked up. Yer scared to. Yer bigger chickens than the reporters!

2. Stop worrying about PEDs. They exist. They work. They make sense if done right. They are a problem if done wrong. Don't expect media to write about whose trainer knows what.

Note that the Epstein Barr epidemic went away about the same time trainers from cycling appeared. It's not rocket science people. Riders that do their PEDs (like testosterone) right are the smart ones. They are doing these things to battle fatigue from long seasons as much as they are for performance. As long as they don't overdo it, they will be healthier in the long run, and it's not hurting anyone.

Don't expect top riders to do long seasons, train all year, and wear themselves out and not do anything about it. It's too bad that the public can't handle the truth, but that's the way it is. It won't change.
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11/13/2011 8:54am
Which other professional sports have fans clambering for info on which riders are having sex with who, who owes people money, and other gossip? I don't get the appeal, but then again I don't read tabloids, either.

Reporters in EVERY sport must walk the line with athletes between getting the scoop and having a working relationship with the athlete. It's part of the job.

Steve, it's five years later and I still don't see why you make such a big deal about DC running RX and MXS. Personal problem?

Every pro sport employs PR firms and many produce their own media. Every reputable MX media outlet is allowed to report on the races, take pictures, and get interviews. Specifically, what problem do you have with it?
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Which other professional sports have fans clambering for info on which riders are having sex with who, who owes people money, and other gossip? I don't...
Which other professional sports have fans clambering for info on which riders are having sex with who, who owes people money, and other gossip? I don't get the appeal, but then again I don't read tabloids, either.

Reporters in EVERY sport must walk the line with athletes between getting the scoop and having a working relationship with the athlete. It's part of the job.

Steve, it's five years later and I still don't see why you make such a big deal about DC running RX and MXS. Personal problem?

Every pro sport employs PR firms and many produce their own media. Every reputable MX media outlet is allowed to report on the races, take pictures, and get interviews. Specifically, what problem do you have with it?
If I answered that, it would not be here long so why waste typing? Hit me up on Facebook or something.

If you don't see the problem, you don't know much and I cant help you anyway. Maybe you are just scared to think about it.
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11/13/2011 11:47am
TFS wrote:
If I answered that, it would not be here long so why waste typing? Hit me up on Facebook or something. If you don't see the...
If I answered that, it would not be here long so why waste typing? Hit me up on Facebook or something.

If you don't see the problem, you don't know much and I cant help you anyway. Maybe you are just scared to think about it.
That is classic TFS right there . . .
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11/13/2011 2:01pm Edited Date/Time 11/13/2011 2:12pm
TFS wrote:
Shit, nothing changes. People are fussing about the same shit they always did. 1. Stop worrying about the lack of "real dirt" reporting from the regulars...
Shit, nothing changes. People are fussing about the same shit they always did.

1. Stop worrying about the lack of "real dirt" reporting from the regulars. It's not going to change. If you want to see inside pics and read decent interviews, these require some kind of trust between people in the sport and the reporter. You can't expect regular reporters to write about who bangs whose chic or whose trainer knows "PEDs" and then expect things to stay normal.

If you want to bitch about media, consider that the same company that runs the nats is also a mag publisher, website, and is in the middle of everything, and most of you are chicken to admit it that is seriously fucked up. Yer scared to. Yer bigger chickens than the reporters!

2. Stop worrying about PEDs. They exist. They work. They make sense if done right. They are a problem if done wrong. Don't expect media to write about whose trainer knows what.

Note that the Epstein Barr epidemic went away about the same time trainers from cycling appeared. It's not rocket science people. Riders that do their PEDs (like testosterone) right are the smart ones. They are doing these things to battle fatigue from long seasons as much as they are for performance. As long as they don't overdo it, they will be healthier in the long run, and it's not hurting anyone.

Don't expect top riders to do long seasons, train all year, and wear themselves out and not do anything about it. It's too bad that the public can't handle the truth, but that's the way it is. It won't change.
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11/13/2011 2:04pm
DMG wrote:
I know one of the guys and we talked about it. He said there was no plan going into that show and once one of them...
I know one of the guys and we talked about it. He said there was no plan going into that show and once one of them went down the road he said he just started talking, I dont think he regrets it but he knows he doesnt want to throw riders under the bus any more.

With that said, if professional SX stars dont want shit talked about them they should pay their bills and not screw anyone they want. With the pure lack of reporting anything remotely damaging in this sport a show like this was bound to happen. The riders and mechanics have become rockstars in this little sport and they now think their shit dont stink, mixed with the fact tthat every reporter kisses their ass and is afraid to hold anyone accountable and you have a group of spoiled athletes that what ever they want. What those guys said on that show is the tip of what they could have said. With the money these guys make and the way most have been treated and sheltered their whole lives, this shit shouldnt surprise anyone.

Yea they said shit they shouldnt have, but you guys are keeping the fire burning by not letting it go. There is enough feedback to keep that show going, and it will if people keep talking about it.

Disclaimer: I am in no way affiliated with that show and have never called in, I just know one of them.
mom241 wrote:
How many riders and mechanics do you personally know? Names please.
DMG wrote:
I don't claim to know anybody or anything. What I do know is that I love the heart your son rides with.
DMG knows his stuff, he's a former factory Suzuki and Yamaha rider from the 80's...no lie.
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11/13/2011 2:35pm
Which other professional sports have fans clambering for info on which riders are having sex with who, who owes people money, and other gossip? I don't...
Which other professional sports have fans clambering for info on which riders are having sex with who, who owes people money, and other gossip? I don't get the appeal, but then again I don't read tabloids, either.

Reporters in EVERY sport must walk the line with athletes between getting the scoop and having a working relationship with the athlete. It's part of the job.

Steve, it's five years later and I still don't see why you make such a big deal about DC running RX and MXS. Personal problem?

Every pro sport employs PR firms and many produce their own media. Every reputable MX media outlet is allowed to report on the races, take pictures, and get interviews. Specifically, what problem do you have with it?
The Dodger's and owner McCourt were hot topics of recent, Romo and Jessica were a topic along with Brady and Giselle. McCourts divorce was in the news and will continue until the team is sold, all that is gossip. Keep in mind, other Pro Sports teams are worth hundeds of millions of dollars. Top baseball/football/basketball teams for example are worth half a billion or more. Top NASCAR teams worth 150 million and up, what about F1 or even soccer? Motocross unfortunately is chump change in comparison, manufacturers do it to sell bikes, everyone else does it because they like the sport. On a private level, how many Mitch Payton/PC type of teams are in the pits? Very few are making significant money, most are just getting by or paying the bills, if not losing.

" Reporters in EVERY sport must walk the line"....... true that, but keep in mind, other Pro sports like stick and ball are REQUIRED to allow media access to their locker rooms, nobody is required to allow access to their race hauler or motorhome in moto, reports have to EARN that, consecquently, reporting trash about Jimmy MacGrath or Ricky Mooseknuckle won't get you very far in the pits.
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11/14/2011 8:55am
TFS wrote:
If I answered that, it would not be here long so why waste typing? Hit me up on Facebook or something. If you don't see the...
If I answered that, it would not be here long so why waste typing? Hit me up on Facebook or something.

If you don't see the problem, you don't know much and I cant help you anyway. Maybe you are just scared to think about it.
Email notification will tell me what you post here which I can duplicate if needed.
11/14/2011 8:57am
Rizzo wrote:
The Dodger's and owner McCourt were hot topics of recent, Romo and Jessica were a topic along with Brady and Giselle. McCourts divorce was in the...
The Dodger's and owner McCourt were hot topics of recent, Romo and Jessica were a topic along with Brady and Giselle. McCourts divorce was in the news and will continue until the team is sold, all that is gossip. Keep in mind, other Pro Sports teams are worth hundeds of millions of dollars. Top baseball/football/basketball teams for example are worth half a billion or more. Top NASCAR teams worth 150 million and up, what about F1 or even soccer? Motocross unfortunately is chump change in comparison, manufacturers do it to sell bikes, everyone else does it because they like the sport. On a private level, how many Mitch Payton/PC type of teams are in the pits? Very few are making significant money, most are just getting by or paying the bills, if not losing.

" Reporters in EVERY sport must walk the line"....... true that, but keep in mind, other Pro sports like stick and ball are REQUIRED to allow media access to their locker rooms, nobody is required to allow access to their race hauler or motorhome in moto, reports have to EARN that, consecquently, reporting trash about Jimmy MacGrath or Ricky Mooseknuckle won't get you very far in the pits.
Good points but I would think a team owner getting a divorce which resultsi n MLB taking over the team that is valued at around $1 billion is a little more high profile than one rider owing an agent money, no?
11/14/2011 9:45am
The show in question was removed from the archives last week. They said on their last show that he would re-post it for sale at a later date. The proceeds from the sales would be donnated to a charity in Mrs. Tickle's name.

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