Team USA autograph session in France

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9/20/2011 4:46pm
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Now that everyone who feels slighted about not getting an autograph after the race has had a chance to insult all of the Team USA riders...
Now that everyone who feels slighted about not getting an autograph after the race has had a chance to insult all of the Team USA riders, here's some news: After the warm-up practice on Sunday morning, all three Team USA riders signed autographs for fans at their respective pit areas. No one was together, as they were all working out of different rigs, but Jeff Canfield of the AMA and MX Sports helped pull it together. I was not there as I was meeting with a fellow promoter in another part of the facility. The riders did not give away a lot of plastic or goggles because they had none to give.

After the race they did the podium thing, which took about a half hour, then they went to the press conference, which was another 45 minutes, and then they all had to go into a room and take a urine test for the FIM (they all passed, guess their aim is true).

After all that, it was pretty much dark, and time to eat dinner and celebrate, which they did at Alpinestars, along with all of the GP riders and teams that were invited in by Alpinestars.

And I was at St. Jean D'Angeley with Travis Pastrana in 2000 and he did not stay and sign every single autograph. No one can when there are thousands of people there. So please give these guys a break. It's a long day, a tough race, and they have lots of official requirements for the promoter, the FIM, the press and their own teams. Oh, and they had to focus some of their time on actually winning the race on different bikes than what they have at home, and that includes talking to mechanics, tire guys, goggle guys, team managers, parents, girlfriends, fellow riders, whatever.

Calling them out for being serious and focused on race day is really kind of strange to me, especially since they did sign autographs, but the original poster just wasn't there at the time to get the attention he hoped for. The Americans pay their own way over, there is no prize money, and the race is not on TV in America, yet they still come and give it their all, yet it's still not enough...

Next year Racer X will try to help out and make a Team USA poster or something to help out, but when it's all spread out and everyone is scrambling to win and do all of the things the race requires, there's just not enough time in the day.

But flame on, let's ruin a good win and a great day of racing somehow.

DC
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Glad to hear that came together!

As Carlos already posted in this thread...I think your twisting things a bit as most folks here weren't "insulting" team USA riders for not signing stuff at the race but rather questioning a system/promoter that would shuffle riders off to an exclusive "industry" party AFTER the race that the vast majority of fans would not have any hope of having access to.
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9/20/2011 4:58pm Edited Date/Time 9/20/2011 4:58pm
DC wrote:
Now that everyone who feels slighted about not getting an autograph after the race has had a chance to insult all of the Team USA riders...
Now that everyone who feels slighted about not getting an autograph after the race has had a chance to insult all of the Team USA riders, here's some news: After the warm-up practice on Sunday morning, all three Team USA riders signed autographs for fans at their respective pit areas. No one was together, as they were all working out of different rigs, but Jeff Canfield of the AMA and MX Sports helped pull it together. I was not there as I was meeting with a fellow promoter in another part of the facility. The riders did not give away a lot of plastic or goggles because they had none to give.

After the race they did the podium thing, which took about a half hour, then they went to the press conference, which was another 45 minutes, and then they all had to go into a room and take a urine test for the FIM (they all passed, guess their aim is true).

After all that, it was pretty much dark, and time to eat dinner and celebrate, which they did at Alpinestars, along with all of the GP riders and teams that were invited in by Alpinestars.

And I was at St. Jean D'Angeley with Travis Pastrana in 2000 and he did not stay and sign every single autograph. No one can when there are thousands of people there. So please give these guys a break. It's a long day, a tough race, and they have lots of official requirements for the promoter, the FIM, the press and their own teams. Oh, and they had to focus some of their time on actually winning the race on different bikes than what they have at home, and that includes talking to mechanics, tire guys, goggle guys, team managers, parents, girlfriends, fellow riders, whatever.

Calling them out for being serious and focused on race day is really kind of strange to me, especially since they did sign autographs, but the original poster just wasn't there at the time to get the attention he hoped for. The Americans pay their own way over, there is no prize money, and the race is not on TV in America, yet they still come and give it their all, yet it's still not enough...

Next year Racer X will try to help out and make a Team USA poster or something to help out, but when it's all spread out and everyone is scrambling to win and do all of the things the race requires, there's just not enough time in the day.

But flame on, let's ruin a good win and a great day of racing somehow.

DC
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Your right. They all suck! Smile

EDIT: I meant "you're".
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9/20/2011 5:27pm
DC wrote:
Now that everyone who feels slighted about not getting an autograph after the race has had a chance to insult all of the Team USA riders...
Now that everyone who feels slighted about not getting an autograph after the race has had a chance to insult all of the Team USA riders, here's some news: After the warm-up practice on Sunday morning, all three Team USA riders signed autographs for fans at their respective pit areas. No one was together, as they were all working out of different rigs, but Jeff Canfield of the AMA and MX Sports helped pull it together. I was not there as I was meeting with a fellow promoter in another part of the facility. The riders did not give away a lot of plastic or goggles because they had none to give.

After the race they did the podium thing, which took about a half hour, then they went to the press conference, which was another 45 minutes, and then they all had to go into a room and take a urine test for the FIM (they all passed, guess their aim is true).

After all that, it was pretty much dark, and time to eat dinner and celebrate, which they did at Alpinestars, along with all of the GP riders and teams that were invited in by Alpinestars.

And I was at St. Jean D'Angeley with Travis Pastrana in 2000 and he did not stay and sign every single autograph. No one can when there are thousands of people there. So please give these guys a break. It's a long day, a tough race, and they have lots of official requirements for the promoter, the FIM, the press and their own teams. Oh, and they had to focus some of their time on actually winning the race on different bikes than what they have at home, and that includes talking to mechanics, tire guys, goggle guys, team managers, parents, girlfriends, fellow riders, whatever.

Calling them out for being serious and focused on race day is really kind of strange to me, especially since they did sign autographs, but the original poster just wasn't there at the time to get the attention he hoped for. The Americans pay their own way over, there is no prize money, and the race is not on TV in America, yet they still come and give it their all, yet it's still not enough...

Next year Racer X will try to help out and make a Team USA poster or something to help out, but when it's all spread out and everyone is scrambling to win and do all of the things the race requires, there's just not enough time in the day.

But flame on, let's ruin a good win and a great day of racing somehow.

DC
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DC wrote: Now that everyone who feels slighted about not getting an autograph after the race has had a chance to insult all of the Team USA riders, here's some news: After the warm-up practice on Sunday morning, all three Team USA riders signed autographs for fans at their respective pit areas. No one was together, as they were all working out of different rigs, but Jeff Canfield of the AMA and MX Sports helped pull it together.[b] I was not there as I was meeting with a fellow promoter in another part of the facility. The riders did not give away a lot of plastic or goggles because they had none to give.[/b]

Hmmm??? Care to go into details about the conversation? lol


Calling them out for being serious and focused on race day is really kind of strange to me, especially since they did sign autographs, but the original poster just wasn't there at the time to get the attention he hoped for. The Americans pay their own way over, there is no prize money, and the race is not on TV in America, yet they still come and give it their all, yet it's still not enough...

So the riders actually pay their own way? No way, not going to belive that one.

Do the riders really make no money on the race. I always thought it was written into contracts that if selected to go the des Nations, riders got a bonus, and depending on finish, got a bigger a smaller bonus?

The riders who went, are not the most out going with the fans here in the states. Both Ryans are, from my experiences, kinda of secluded on race days. Certain riders will walk around the pits and mingle, the Ryans are not that type of rider, maybe that is what makes them so good? They are 100% focused all day long. Expecting them to be someone they are not, especially over seas, is asking alot. Would of been cool to hear at least one story of one of the Americans doing something cool for the fans over there though. No, not giving away jerseys, goggles, bike parts or anything like that, just maybe going out of there way to say hi and take a pic. RC was never one to be a "man of the people," and lets face it, the Ryans have both learned a lil something from RC.

I really don't think the fans are that hateful and disrespectful of the riders themselves, I think it has more to do with how the fans in the states gloat about the riders. Remember when Lenny was here and JBS could do no wrong, even if he was wrong? That kind of fandom turns people off. When people are that pumped to pimp out a certain rider, it's going to make people find shit to bitch about.

I'm not a big fan of either Ryan, that doesn't mean I don't have mucho respect for the both of them and what they both accomplished thus far into their careers. I do get a little irratated when the fans of those two guys start in with the "Boss" and the "second coming of the GOAT." Comparisons happen in all sports, everyone is looking for the next MJ, or Montana, its part of sports, just the mx guys seem to get a little miopic about it..

Congrats to Team U.S.A. on a race I don't care about. I would like to see Alessi go one of theses days though..
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9/20/2011 6:10pm
I believe the AMA pays for Roger, plus the three riders and a mechanic for each to go but that's it. The riders are responsible for their own families and girlfriends to go, so I should have clarified the difference. They do not get any bonuses anymore that I know of. But they love the race because it means a lot to them, so they make the effort to go and try their hardest. It sucks when it's not enough because they didn't do enough for the fans in a very short and busy time frame. I hope they keep going back forever -- it is a great event and a great experience -- but I wish some folks had a better understanding of how competitive and pressure-packed it can be to be expected win year after year....

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9/20/2011 6:12pm Edited Date/Time 9/20/2011 6:13pm
Thinking more about it, it seems kind of dumb to go to an elite level race and EXPECT to get an autograph from the racers.

I went to Cleveland Cavs games when LeBron was here and never for one second did expect to get autograph from him.
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9/20/2011 6:15pm
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[b]After the race they did the podium thing, which took about a half hour, then they went to the press conference, which was another 45 minutes...
After the race they did the podium thing, which took about a half hour, then they went to the press conference, which was another 45 minutes, and then they all had to go into a room and take a urine test for the FIM (they all passed, guess their aim is true).

Uhm did you guys got already the results from that dope test?? A friend of mine (GP Rider) got one in the Belgian GP in Lommel he had to wait one 10 days for the results... Then a fellow cyclist of mine rides a B class here and he got a dope control also and he had to wait a little month before he had his results!! You guys have the results within 72 hours?? Special US/AMA treatment??
your post are so fucking annoying.

I hope you're the next dip shit to get clipped.

if you hate the way we do shit here, don't follow US MX and stay the fuck off our messages boards.
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I can understand kids asking for autographs,but as a man there isn't another man on this planet that I would ask for an autograph or to give me anything free.
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9/20/2011 6:40pm
DC wrote:
I believe the AMA pays for Roger, plus the three riders and a mechanic for each to go but that's it. The riders are responsible for...
I believe the AMA pays for Roger, plus the three riders and a mechanic for each to go but that's it. The riders are responsible for their own families and girlfriends to go, so I should have clarified the difference. They do not get any bonuses anymore that I know of. But they love the race because it means a lot to them, so they make the effort to go and try their hardest. It sucks when it's not enough because they didn't do enough for the fans in a very short and busy time frame. I hope they keep going back forever -- it is a great event and a great experience -- but I wish some folks had a better understanding of how competitive and pressure-packed it can be to be expected win year after year....

DC
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but I wish some folks had a better understanding of how competitive and pressure-packed it can be to be expected win year after year....

I think that is part of the problem. They win too much, seems too easy.

To me the race is outdated, they need to change how it all works. I say the U.S. against everyone else. One year we get to host, next year they host. Maybe if we lost one I'd gain some interest. How boring would it be if the Yankees won the World Series every year?
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9/20/2011 6:42pm
MXMattii wrote:
[b]After the race they did the podium thing, which took about a half hour, then they went to the press conference, which was another 45 minutes...
After the race they did the podium thing, which took about a half hour, then they went to the press conference, which was another 45 minutes, and then they all had to go into a room and take a urine test for the FIM (they all passed, guess their aim is true).

Uhm did you guys got already the results from that dope test?? A friend of mine (GP Rider) got one in the Belgian GP in Lommel he had to wait one 10 days for the results... Then a fellow cyclist of mine rides a B class here and he got a dope control also and he had to wait a little month before he had his results!! You guys have the results within 72 hours?? Special US/AMA treatment??
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your post are so fucking annoying. I hope you're the next dip shit to get clipped. if you hate the way we do shit here, don't...
your post are so fucking annoying.

I hope you're the next dip shit to get clipped.

if you hate the way we do shit here, don't follow US MX and stay the fuck off our messages boards.
Well said!!
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[b]but I wish some folks had a better understanding of how competitive and pressure-packed it can be to be expected win year after year.... [/b] I...
but I wish some folks had a better understanding of how competitive and pressure-packed it can be to be expected win year after year....

I think that is part of the problem. They win too much, seems too easy.

To me the race is outdated, they need to change how it all works. I say the U.S. against everyone else. One year we get to host, next year they host. Maybe if we lost one I'd gain some interest. How boring would it be if the Yankees won the World Series every year?
Top 10 from the US vs top 10 from the rest of the world. Ride any size bike. Everyone on 450's if they want.....let someone like Barcia ride a 450....move Tomac up the 450 for one race like guys used to have to ride a 500 at the Trophee des Nations.

US host one year....rest of the world host the next...and back and forth. I think it would be great.

How cool would it be to see Villopoto, Dungey, Stewart, Canard, Barcia, Alessi, Short, Millsaps, Tomac, and Grant all on one team taking on the world?
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I'm so proud of these three young men who represented the United States at the 2011 MXoN and WON!! Awesome job
9/20/2011 8:29pm
peelout wrote:
that's pretty bad ass, but what makes autographs cool to me is getting them in person
Rich people buy their memorabilia, the rest of us earn it.
9/20/2011 8:30pm
DC wrote:
I believe the AMA pays for Roger, plus the three riders and a mechanic for each to go but that's it. The riders are responsible for...
I believe the AMA pays for Roger, plus the three riders and a mechanic for each to go but that's it. The riders are responsible for their own families and girlfriends to go, so I should have clarified the difference. They do not get any bonuses anymore that I know of. But they love the race because it means a lot to them, so they make the effort to go and try their hardest. It sucks when it's not enough because they didn't do enough for the fans in a very short and busy time frame. I hope they keep going back forever -- it is a great event and a great experience -- but I wish some folks had a better understanding of how competitive and pressure-packed it can be to be expected win year after year....

DC
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Must be hard to pay your own way when you're a millionaire several times over.
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9/20/2011 9:07pm Edited Date/Time 9/20/2011 9:10pm
DC wrote:
I believe the AMA pays for Roger, plus the three riders and a mechanic for each to go but that's it. The riders are responsible for...
I believe the AMA pays for Roger, plus the three riders and a mechanic for each to go but that's it. The riders are responsible for their own families and girlfriends to go, so I should have clarified the difference. They do not get any bonuses anymore that I know of. But they love the race because it means a lot to them, so they make the effort to go and try their hardest. It sucks when it's not enough because they didn't do enough for the fans in a very short and busy time frame. I hope they keep going back forever -- it is a great event and a great experience -- but I wish some folks had a better understanding of how competitive and pressure-packed it can be to be expected win year after year....

DC
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Must be hard to pay your own way when you're a millionaire several times over.
some of you guys just don't get it.

no baseball, NFL, NBA, musicians or movie stars are expected to do this before or after the events so why do you guys feel entitled?

furthermore, some of the big actors won't even let you take a pic of them, but you'll still run to watch the movie they have in the theater.

be honest with yourselfs for 2 seconds; how many famous athletes, musicians or movie stars gave you the time of day like the guys do in our sport.
9/20/2011 9:12pm
DC wrote:
I believe the AMA pays for Roger, plus the three riders and a mechanic for each to go but that's it. The riders are responsible for...
I believe the AMA pays for Roger, plus the three riders and a mechanic for each to go but that's it. The riders are responsible for their own families and girlfriends to go, so I should have clarified the difference. They do not get any bonuses anymore that I know of. But they love the race because it means a lot to them, so they make the effort to go and try their hardest. It sucks when it's not enough because they didn't do enough for the fans in a very short and busy time frame. I hope they keep going back forever -- it is a great event and a great experience -- but I wish some folks had a better understanding of how competitive and pressure-packed it can be to be expected win year after year....

DC
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Must be hard to pay your own way when you're a millionaire several times over.
j100 wrote:
some of you guys just don't get it. no baseball, NFL, NBA, musicians or movie stars are expected to do this before or after the events...
some of you guys just don't get it.

no baseball, NFL, NBA, musicians or movie stars are expected to do this before or after the events so why do you guys feel entitled?

furthermore, some of the big actors won't even let you take a pic of them, but you'll still run to watch the movie they have in the theater.

be honest with yourselfs for 2 seconds; how many famous athletes, musicians or movie stars gave you the time of day like the guys do in our sport.
Lot's give to charities...open your eyes, dude.
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DC wrote:
I believe the AMA pays for Roger, plus the three riders and a mechanic for each to go but that's it. The riders are responsible for...
I believe the AMA pays for Roger, plus the three riders and a mechanic for each to go but that's it. The riders are responsible for their own families and girlfriends to go, so I should have clarified the difference. They do not get any bonuses anymore that I know of. But they love the race because it means a lot to them, so they make the effort to go and try their hardest. It sucks when it's not enough because they didn't do enough for the fans in a very short and busy time frame. I hope they keep going back forever -- it is a great event and a great experience -- but I wish some folks had a better understanding of how competitive and pressure-packed it can be to be expected win year after year....

DC
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Must be hard to pay your own way when you're a millionaire several times over.
That race isn't cheap to go to. Smile
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Can't beat em on the track, so might as well bash em Sick for what they did - or didn't do - after the race. Good Lord.Angry
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Here's another thought, crank this forward to minute 14 and look at the interaction with the fans from 06, and then think of how the promoters...
Here's another thought, crank this forward to minute 14 and look at the interaction with the fans from 06, and then think of how the promoters minimized the team's accomplishment at the race and how people from overseas have absolutely shit on Stewart since then about that race.

Anyone having any complaints about team USA in the MXdN, how about you just go screw yourself.

mmcmx wrote:
But then after the podium they got out with a car like we were going to linch them wile Stefan Everts walked through us shaking hands...
But then after the podium they got out with a car like we were going to linch them wile Stefan Everts walked through us shaking hands.

It felt like they were like soldiers on a mission and didn't care about us at all.

That's why the video surprised me. I'm starting to understand. It's just a diferent way of doing things. In america they are used to interact with fans for scheduled limited time while in europe do all the time. It's no disrespet to us, thats the way they act back home too?

Is that correct?

I, for one, think they were more "close" to the people than ever this weekend. I even saw Dungey sign a box of cigarretes, I was like wtf is this idiot (the fan) doing.
if you can watch this video and STILL BITCH, you have a vagina somewhere on your body. straight up.

you know why i think people bitch and moan on the internet? its so easy to do. you lay your fingers on the keyboard and move them. you dont have to even think really, because you can just regurgitate some cliche shit you read on another website. its too easy. a lower primate could do it.
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9/20/2011 11:03pm Edited Date/Time 9/21/2011 10:36pm
Maybe yould should worry about your own god damn riders and promoters and why they didn't even make it to this race to represent YOU'R country. Yea, you guys obviously have this whole "Moto" thing handled really well up there.

Try carrying your country on your shoulders, around a, foriegn dirt bike track, to a seventh straight title......no pressurre.....................oh that's right, you don't have a fucking team in the race.

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9/20/2011 11:17pm Edited Date/Time 9/20/2011 11:17pm
I had the pleasure of attending A3 in 2009. In a 90 minute period I scored the autographs of James Stewart, Ryan Villopoto and Chad Reed - in that order.

Waiting in line for James' autograph made me just miss the cut-off time to get Ryan's autograph; however, a quick pleading of my case (I was getting all three autographs - on jerseys - for a young rider in Australia) and Ryan happily acquiesced. Top bloke, that Ryan. Anyway, I was now well and truly late for Chad's autograph but, again, after some more finagling, Mr Reed did the deed.

In short, I was impressed with how approachable, and how obliging, Messrs Stewart, Villopoto and Reed were on the day.
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I had the pleasure of attending A3 in 2009. In a 90 minute period I scored the autographs of James Stewart, Ryan Villopoto and Chad Reed...
I had the pleasure of attending A3 in 2009. In a 90 minute period I scored the autographs of James Stewart, Ryan Villopoto and Chad Reed - in that order.

Waiting in line for James' autograph made me just miss the cut-off time to get Ryan's autograph; however, a quick pleading of my case (I was getting all three autographs - on jerseys - for a young rider in Australia) and Ryan happily acquiesced. Top bloke, that Ryan. Anyway, I was now well and truly late for Chad's autograph but, again, after some more finagling, Mr Reed did the deed.

In short, I was impressed with how approachable, and how obliging, Messrs Stewart, Villopoto and Reed were on the day.
Wait, a positive report from someone who actually attends races?

How dare you, sir. Wink
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have you ever considered that maybe comparing auto racing and motocross is apples and oranges? yes, both have engines. but other than that, its like comparing pro bull riding to wimbledon. its like comparing the bmx halfpipe event at the X games to the tour de france. yea, they are both bicycles, but its a different world.
9/20/2011 11:32pm Edited Date/Time 9/20/2011 11:33pm
Say, pro bull riding at Wimbledon - now that's something I would watch!

Especially if they're playing tennis at the same time.
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Damn, this thread kinda just fell apart..
9/20/2011 11:42pm
Maybe it's just because it's gettin' late - in America, that is.
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9/20/2011 11:50pm
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Maybe it's just because it's gettin' late - in America, that is.
Seems to be the case more often than not around here these days... Thread starts out with some nice back and forth, then just goes right into the toilet...
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9/21/2011 12:19am
are you suggesting they spend 14 times the amount of a CRF450 on a competitive touring sedan and rig and enter the speedvision touring car challenge, so that they may experience brick and mortar shitters?!! sounds like a plan, stan.
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DC, why are you taking notice of a few morons on here?

I didn't realise "fans" went to watch the mxdn to get some autographs and freebies. They're obviously going for the wrong reasons.



Great how the "Euro's" are all tarnished under one brush as per usual. Because of a few dickheads on here.
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if you can watch this video and STILL BITCH, you have a vagina somewhere on your body. straight up. you know why i think people bitch...
if you can watch this video and STILL BITCH, you have a vagina somewhere on your body. straight up.

you know why i think people bitch and moan on the internet? its so easy to do. you lay your fingers on the keyboard and move them. you dont have to even think really, because you can just regurgitate some cliche shit you read on another website. its too easy. a lower primate could do it.
Well, if you think I was bitching, that wasn't my intention.
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You always seem to be out to get someone. Let it go, man. I have spent two days trying to say what DC just said, so...
You always seem to be out to get someone. Let it go, man.

I have spent two days trying to say what DC just said, so all I'll say is "I agree".
Matti is one of the pure assholes here. He contributes nothing but bullshit and piss. His can should be kicked to the curb as fast as...
Matti is one of the pure assholes here. He contributes nothing but bullshit and piss. His can should be kicked to the curb as fast as WW was,
wow..never thought FTE could speak like that!!!

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