Question to parents with kids riding mx

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8/29/2011 12:06pm
I have mixed feelings about this for sure. I want my kids to be faster, push themselves harder etc., while at the same time I know the already high risk for injury increases along with their speed. I have seen alot of kids hurt this year pushing themselves to get to Loretta's or doing things because they can although maybe they should not. I think as parents, we have to teach our kids that in this sport you have to be able to make some safer decisions which means thinking a bit before hucking some huge triple to pass someone and end up with multiple broken legs etc... Then again, some people say this sport is balls and not brains but I think it is that mentality where kids push and then suffer the consquences when something happens. I am also a firm believer the big gapped out jumps have to go, they just have to. One of the best local tracks here in Illinois has really eliminated the big gap jumps but they still have jumps where IF a rider wants to, they can fly all day long. Look at the carnage supercross continues to take on the professional rider corps. I guess as much as I would love to see my boys race Loretta's, I am not sure I am ready to see them go that fast either and may have to submit to simply watching them race, local races, have fun and be with me all weekend. That being said, there is risk there too and I always say a prayer everytime they are on the track and we leave the track with nothing else but sunburns and thinner wallets.
8/29/2011 12:10pm Edited Date/Time 8/29/2011 1:49pm
I feel the need to put in my 2 cents on this topic. I have owned and managed a public MX track in the US for almost 10 years.
In all of that time we have had very few serious injuries. In fact sometimes 6 months can go by without even seeing an ambulance. This is with thousands of riders every year. I would like to see the stats on other sports football, hockey, even baseball has it's share of serious injury. When it comes to kids what I see is mostly cluless parents, they come out to a public track and just send little Johny out there on a 65 without even asking about rules or safety! It's always the parents who don't ride and never rode. I am a very proactive track owner and if I see something that I think is unsafe I will have a talk with the parent. This sport can be as safe or as dangerous as you want it to be. I see plenty of kids that come out to the track and couldn't care less about MX. Then there are those kids who's eyes light up and this is all they want to do. It's either in their blood or it's not! What most people don't see is these kids eating right, working out, doing there best in school and so on just so they can be a little better on the track or so dad wont take away the bike.

I remember a few years ago one of our regular riders broke his femur. He was 13 at the time. His dad told me that they had to wait 2 days for the childrens hospital to do the surgery because they were so full at the time. Reason? School had just got out for the summer and kids were coming in with all kinds of injuries, falling out of trees, watersport related, you name it! This kid was the only one there from MX at the time. He was back riding in 3 months and is now 16. My parents wouldn't let me have a bike when I was a kid so I would go with friends without their permission and with no supervision. I got into all kinds of stuff looking for an outlet. It wasn't until I got serious with MX that I calmed down having found what I was looking for! We are all wired differently and maybe it's more important as a parent to know your kid and what makes them tick.

Flarider had it 100% right about the parents that push their kids the wrong way. Guess what? If your kid is gonna be the next AC then you'll know because companys will start giving you money, parts, bikes and so on. If you are buying all of your own parts and bikes then maybe just keep it fun and safe for Johnny. If you've never jumped a dirtbike over a 100ft jump, maybe don't push your kid so hard before he's not ready. When you go to a public track for the first time maybe chill out for awhile and watch, ask questions and talk to the owner about rules and safety. I wouldn't take my kid to a paintball facility and tell him go play son, much less an MX track wihout much detail! I have seen many kids grow up at the track and develop into awesome riders with very few minor injuries. A lot of it comes down to common sense like so much else in life. This sport has so much more to offer then just being a top pro. For the true core MXer it is a way of life that can be a gift they pass down to their children. I personaly would not trade the last 20 plus years of riding and racing for anything else in this world...
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8/29/2011 12:32pm
Everybody has valid points somehow. I can see the higher level the higher risk, but then again you don't have to be fast at all to kill yourselfe. I think it's wrong when parents let kids ride at such a high level that fractures and concussions is something that happens every season. They don't have judgement enough to calculate the risks, and jeopardizing their entire future.

They are just kids,and I think it's wrong to let them destroy their health before their brain has matured enough forthem to make careerplans based on more maturity and experience.I know that might be what it takes to be the new RC4. But out of 500 trying only 1 might have what it takes. The other will just get beaten up in a best case scenario for no good in the end.

Minidads is just as dangerous as huge jumps. When nobody gets hurt we enjoy huge leaps and wonderkids, but when an accident occurs this two ingridients makes it really tragic,

As it stands now I will keep his riding at a really low level, I will not let him start racing when the roules allows him. To let him is such a dangerous decision in my opinion that Iwant him to takeit as an adult. When people aged 20 and above gets hurt it's not their parents fault. Theycan legally make their own decision by then. I would be just as sad, but not as guilty.

If I hand a drunken driver the keys, fill the car with gas and starts it for him I'm a partner in crime. It doesn't matter that I didn't push him to go fast I'm still guilty...drunk people shall not drive, and kids shall not die racing motocross.

Maybe we should have roules that said maximum 10 riders behind the gate until you are 16. Force them to ridetracks that bore them,but doesn't kill them. I would feel different about the racing aspect then.

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8/29/2011 12:40pm
motogrady wrote:
Get rid of all the big, man made jumps. We don't need them. It's that simple. Or go ahead, strap a leatt on, launch junior 50...
Get rid of all the big, man made jumps. We don't need them.

It's that simple.

Or go ahead, strap a leatt on, launch junior 50 feet thru the air at 50mph, see what happens.
broke my back in a corner.

and before my injury, well im getting to the age where i was ready to move to the next step in life. all i thought about was having a boy, prepping a pw50 for 4 years 9 months, and chasing the racing. but now, after my injury, it will be pretty hard to have a kid growing up riding. even tho i know how easy it is to get hurt doing anything else. itll always be in the back of my mind. so i think i might be with Cam on this one...

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8/29/2011 12:43pm
Alot of people ask me ,,"how do you let your son do that? Dont you worry about him getting hurt?"

This is my responce,,,
I have two sons that I love more then anything in the world. One races motorcycles and the other cant. The reason one cant ride a motorcycle is because he has avascular necrosis in his knees and ankles he has Osteoporosis in his hips and his spine, his lungs only work at about 70%, and his eye site has been cut in half,
All this is because one day my perfectly healthy son that loved to ride his dirtbike was diagnosed with Lukemia. Now after alot of chemotherapy,Radiation , every cancer fighting drug you can think of and a bone marrow transplant my son is now cancer free.

Yes I worry about my son every time his gets on a bike. But there is alot of other things in life that I also worry about now. If a kid loves to ride a dirt bike, let him ride his dirt bike because ANYBODY can get that phone call from the doctor that can devastate your life.
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8/29/2011 12:47pm
I understand that I might come out as easily scared. One rider gets hurt and I'm in panic. That's not the case.
I rode myself for 15 years, and raced from85cc to 250 twostroke before switching to mxjournalism after an injury,
I've seen riders getting paralyzed, get braininjuries for life(among those closefriends) etc etc both in Sweden and internationally. The most frightening thing is though that i've seen hundreds of crasches just like them where the rider walked away. The only difference is luck or bad luck. So like Clint Eastwood said...do you feel lucky?

most of us here has been lucky multiple times during riding. That's why we are alive and up an walking. If you are sincere and have ridden a dirtbikeas fast as you can you know I am right. That's what scares me when it comes to our kids riding.
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8/29/2011 12:49pm
This maybe isn't the solution but its a choice that my parents took.

Only Trail riding with my family since I was 5 and it was my own decision to start going to the tracks when I was 14 when my older brother/friends got a license.

Sure this way I not going be a pro like mike alessi and supporting a mini dad lol but still get to enjoy MX when I am old enough to understand the circumstances.
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jleews6 wrote:
Alot of people ask me ,,"how do you let your son do that? Dont you worry about him getting hurt?" This is my responce,,, I have...
Alot of people ask me ,,"how do you let your son do that? Dont you worry about him getting hurt?"

This is my responce,,,
I have two sons that I love more then anything in the world. One races motorcycles and the other cant. The reason one cant ride a motorcycle is because he has avascular necrosis in his knees and ankles he has Osteoporosis in his hips and his spine, his lungs only work at about 70%, and his eye site has been cut in half,
All this is because one day my perfectly healthy son that loved to ride his dirtbike was diagnosed with Lukemia. Now after alot of chemotherapy,Radiation , every cancer fighting drug you can think of and a bone marrow transplant my son is now cancer free.

Yes I worry about my son every time his gets on a bike. But there is alot of other things in life that I also worry about now. If a kid loves to ride a dirt bike, let him ride his dirt bike because ANYBODY can get that phone call from the doctor that can devastate your life.
I'm really sorry to hear about your sons cancer.My problems are luxury compared to yours in every single way.
I hope all the best for him and your family and thanks for the input.
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EvanR127 wrote:
This maybe isn't the solution but its a choice that my parents took. Only Trail riding with my family since I was 5 and it was...
This maybe isn't the solution but its a choice that my parents took.

Only Trail riding with my family since I was 5 and it was my own decision to start going to the tracks when I was 14 when my older brother/friends got a license.

Sure this way I not going be a pro like mike alessi and supporting a mini dad lol but still get to enjoy MX when I am old enough to understand the circumstances.
that sounds like a pretty wise middleway. I'm surprised to find so many good posts on such a sensitive subject.
i was expecting to get a lot of comments that I'm a sissy and should engage in golf instead, I'm not sure #800 is happier today than you are and my experience with most pro riders is that they have shitty lifes and no careerplans and only debts when their bodies is junk at age 20-30yo
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8/29/2011 1:27pm
I was standing right there, saw the accident, the CPR/Defibrillator and the helpless devestaded father crying out "he needs blood" by far the worst day of my 22 years in the sport i so much love.

I was there with my oldest kid, he's close to 3 so he didnt think much or anything about what happened, luckily..

Johan was a fast dude, he won the EMX 150 cc championship last year and if not for a injury he would prolly have won the 85-150cc class too (3'rd)
Things where looking good for him, he just got in to the "MX-highschool" only a selected few get that opertunity in sweden since we only have but one.

IMO he died cous of the neckbrace, cut his throat. i felt sick the whole day yesterday and i didnt go to work today cous i culdent sleep all night with images flashing... Sure, he got ran over. Still i think if it wherent for the "brandless" neckbrace i think he atleast wuldent have cut his neck.


He will be greatly missed. R.I.P

I'we allways said "OFC MY KID IS GONNA RACE!"
He's still gonna get the chance to try, ride or not we'll take it for what it is. If he wants to do ballet we'll do ballet.
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As a parent of a 19 year old college kid who recently retired after racing for 13 years and excelled at many sports but chose MX as his passion since it was me who influenced him I can say this without hesitation. I am thankful he is alive, can walk without a limp and WTF was I thinking. Take if for what it's worth but MX has become way too fast and unforgiving the risk vs reward just isn't worth it.
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My son is 8. I had always envisioned him growing up on bikes the same way I did. Racing motocross was a huge part of my family growing up. I'm 36 years old now and I hurt every day from injuries. His interest level in riding right now is minimal and I'm ok with it staying that way. The number of deaths and serious injuries has rapidly gone up the past few years. I'm not sure how I could get over it if I pushed him to ride and something serious happened to him.

On the other hand, he has been playing baseball since he was 4. He's a really good athlete, so he has also played on All-Star teams every year he has been playing. In those 4 years, the most serious injury I have seen for any kid was a knocked out tooth from a ground ball. There is no way I could go 4 years at the races and not witness a severe injury.
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RickLeY wrote:
I was standing right there, saw the accident, the CPR/Defibrillator and the helpless devestaded father crying out "he needs blood" by far the worst day of...
I was standing right there, saw the accident, the CPR/Defibrillator and the helpless devestaded father crying out "he needs blood" by far the worst day of my 22 years in the sport i so much love.

I was there with my oldest kid, he's close to 3 so he didnt think much or anything about what happened, luckily..

Johan was a fast dude, he won the EMX 150 cc championship last year and if not for a injury he would prolly have won the 85-150cc class too (3'rd)
Things where looking good for him, he just got in to the "MX-highschool" only a selected few get that opertunity in sweden since we only have but one.

IMO he died cous of the neckbrace, cut his throat. i felt sick the whole day yesterday and i didnt go to work today cous i culdent sleep all night with images flashing... Sure, he got ran over. Still i think if it wherent for the "brandless" neckbrace i think he atleast wuldent have cut his neck.


He will be greatly missed. R.I.P

I'we allways said "OFC MY KID IS GONNA RACE!"
He's still gonna get the chance to try, ride or not we'll take it for what it is. If he wants to do ballet we'll do ballet.
That is terrible. Sorry you had to witness something like that...
8/29/2011 1:55pm
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As a parent of a 19 year old college kid who recently retired after racing for 13 years and excelled at many sports but chose MX...
As a parent of a 19 year old college kid who recently retired after racing for 13 years and excelled at many sports but chose MX as his passion since it was me who influenced him I can say this without hesitation. I am thankful he is alive, can walk without a limp and WTF was I thinking. Take if for what it's worth but MX has become way too fast and unforgiving the risk vs reward just isn't worth it.
Maybe you were thinking at least he's not out at God knows where doing God knows what.. Or at least he's not hanging with the wrong crowd getting into the wrong thing.. I guess it depends on what you consider to be the "reward"
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8/29/2011 2:02pm
Minidads aside, for certain kinds of kids - athletic but uninterested in team sports, a little rebellious, free spirits, motocross can be a Godsend. I know it was for me. Back in the late 60s/early 70s, kids could find lots of ways to get in trouble, and I was certainly one of those. But I always had to have a job to buy parts for the bike, I always had to be in shape so I was out running every day, I had to work on the bike and I had to practice - so I didn't get into nearly as much trouble as I would have otherwise. I have no way of knowing, but I really believe that motocross saved my life back then - it sounds cliche', but I sure had lots of friends that wound up in prison or dead, and the only difference between them and me was that I had something that I loved to pour my energy into.
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I have a 3 1/2 year old that rides a PW50 with training wheels. My approach will be simple, we will keep riding and racing as long as he is having fun. I will never push him to be great because it won't matter. It is just shy of absolute certainty that nothing I do will make him elite. Backing down just a hair from the ragged edge of trying to improve makes you substantially safer. Whether he's riding around in first or last, as long as we're having fun, we'll continue. As dangerous as it is, the odds are still more in your favor that everything will turn out fine when your child decides to hang up the boots.
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RickLeY wrote:
I was standing right there, saw the accident, the CPR/Defibrillator and the helpless devestaded father crying out "he needs blood" by far the worst day of...
I was standing right there, saw the accident, the CPR/Defibrillator and the helpless devestaded father crying out "he needs blood" by far the worst day of my 22 years in the sport i so much love.

I was there with my oldest kid, he's close to 3 so he didnt think much or anything about what happened, luckily..

Johan was a fast dude, he won the EMX 150 cc championship last year and if not for a injury he would prolly have won the 85-150cc class too (3'rd)
Things where looking good for him, he just got in to the "MX-highschool" only a selected few get that opertunity in sweden since we only have but one.

IMO he died cous of the neckbrace, cut his throat. i felt sick the whole day yesterday and i didnt go to work today cous i culdent sleep all night with images flashing... Sure, he got ran over. Still i think if it wherent for the "brandless" neckbrace i think he atleast wuldent have cut his neck.


He will be greatly missed. R.I.P

I'we allways said "OFC MY KID IS GONNA RACE!"
He's still gonna get the chance to try, ride or not we'll take it for what it is. If he wants to do ballet we'll do ballet.
That's just horrible. I've seen panic in the eyes of parents way to many times but luckily nothing as terrible as what you had to see. It's a good thing your son was to small to understand what he just saw. Talk about nightmare material.

I was just a few metres away when Nicklas Hermansson crasched into André Nilsson at the same track. That wasn't pretty either. Thanks for your input, and may our kids be the ones blessed with luck if we are to stubborn and stupid to choose another path for their hobbies.
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society is so hypocrytical................motor vehicle accidents kill and maim more kids and adults than anything else ever will .................the jokers who say we need them .. lol ..............ride a bike take a horse train etc. ..........life is about choices ,some make it a choice to let their kids have fun ,alot of times fun is inherently dangerous ...................i live with that choice ...................ever read some of the chemicals put in foods ,the pollutants in the air ,the water ,well who cares right ,yeah leave the sport alone mr journalist ,we know its dangerous always was, always will be .....................start a story on the dangers of being obese or MV fatalities ,or cancer causing chemicals jammed into foods ,sugar is widely sought as being a cancer c ausing substance ,do a story on that .

we live in a non communist countries ,yet you'd never know it because every tie you turn around someone is trying to take something from us
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After what happend to Johan this weekend I don't see MX the way I did before, I don't feel like riding at all. I belive the whole Mx sweden is scared and having second thoghts about riding.

But like WhKnuckle said, motocross takes up my whole life with training, running and fixing the bike, it's a lifestyle that I belive makes me to a better person and i rather live happy riding 'till i'm 30 than get old regretting that I quited.
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ODB wrote:
society is so hypocrytical................motor vehicle accidents kill and maim more kids and adults than anything else ever will .................the jokers who say we need them...
society is so hypocrytical................motor vehicle accidents kill and maim more kids and adults than anything else ever will .................the jokers who say we need them .. lol ..............ride a bike take a horse train etc. ..........life is about choices ,some make it a choice to let their kids have fun ,alot of times fun is inherently dangerous ...................i live with that choice ...................ever read some of the chemicals put in foods ,the pollutants in the air ,the water ,well who cares right ,yeah leave the sport alone mr journalist ,we know its dangerous always was, always will be .....................start a story on the dangers of being obese or MV fatalities ,or cancer causing chemicals jammed into foods ,sugar is widely sought as being a cancer c ausing substance ,do a story on that .

we live in a non communist countries ,yet you'd never know it because every tie you turn around someone is trying to take something from us
eehh...your point is?
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After what happend to Johan this weekend I don't see MX the way I did before, I don't feel like riding at all. I belive the...
After what happend to Johan this weekend I don't see MX the way I did before, I don't feel like riding at all. I belive the whole Mx sweden is scared and having second thoghts about riding.

But like WhKnuckle said, motocross takes up my whole life with training, running and fixing the bike, it's a lifestyle that I belive makes me to a better person and i rather live happy riding 'till i'm 30 than get old regretting that I quited.
Yeah I guess we're all in a bit of a shock. How old are you then? do you have kids yet?
If you picked MX as an adult by your own choice I don't see the same dilemma when a rider gets hurt/killed.

I I want to start riding when I'm 20yo for my own money there's nothing my parents could do. It's different story with feeling guilty if you picked it for them before they were even borned. See what I mean?
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Yeah I guess we're all in a bit of a shock. How old are you then? do you have kids yet? If you picked MX as...
Yeah I guess we're all in a bit of a shock. How old are you then? do you have kids yet?
If you picked MX as an adult by your own choice I don't see the same dilemma when a rider gets hurt/killed.

I I want to start riding when I'm 20yo for my own money there's nothing my parents could do. It's different story with feeling guilty if you picked it for them before they were even borned. See what I mean?
No I'm only 17. I understand the concern with being a riders parent but if they love what they do I don't see why you should hold them back.
My friend's parents don't want their daughter to ride anymore after they saw what happend and the sadness in Johans father's eyes, and I would undestand if my parents didn't want me to ride anymore either, but i've done it my whole life and it would be so hard to stop now. I got injured 6 weeks this summer and I didn't know what to do and almost got depressed.

I'm probably not the right person to answer your question since i'm only a teenager but I can say this, I love motocross, the riding, training and all the people around it, it's a family sport and I never want to quit.
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from reading the posts here it seems like the tracks in the US are pretty gnarly. in australia they have gotten rid of triples and pretty much got rid of doubles as well. only fairly small doubles exist along with table tops and, step up/step downs and camel back jumps. these changes were happening when i was racing in the late 90's to early 2000's. i got out of dirt biking for 9 years and when i went back to my local track i was appalled at how much it had been dumbed down. there was nothing scary about it which is probably a good thing and maybe the way the sport needs to go.

you can have a 100ft table top and work your way up to doing it safely. but dig the middle out of that tabletop and turn it into a double and you have a potentially dangerous jump
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themrtoad wrote:
Yeah I guess we're all in a bit of a shock. How old are you then? do you have kids yet? If you picked MX as...
Yeah I guess we're all in a bit of a shock. How old are you then? do you have kids yet?
If you picked MX as an adult by your own choice I don't see the same dilemma when a rider gets hurt/killed.

I I want to start riding when I'm 20yo for my own money there's nothing my parents could do. It's different story with feeling guilty if you picked it for them before they were even borned. See what I mean?
mxRob wrote:
No I'm only 17. I understand the concern with being a riders parent but if they love what they do I don't see why you should...
No I'm only 17. I understand the concern with being a riders parent but if they love what they do I don't see why you should hold them back.
My friend's parents don't want their daughter to ride anymore after they saw what happend and the sadness in Johans father's eyes, and I would undestand if my parents didn't want me to ride anymore either, but i've done it my whole life and it would be so hard to stop now. I got injured 6 weeks this summer and I didn't know what to do and almost got depressed.

I'm probably not the right person to answer your question since i'm only a teenager but I can say this, I love motocross, the riding, training and all the people around it, it's a family sport and I never want to quit.
I appreciate you thoughts. Your angle is different than mine, and that's what I came here for. I certainly have a dilemma right now but your opinion will be a piece of the puzzle together with all the other input from Vital, friends etc.

When I became a father I started to look on MX differently. When I read how much you love it it reminds me of what I felt when i was 17yo. My daughter has her own horse, but since I'm not into horses it's my wifes concern and responsibility to keep her safe. I know to well how dangerous MX is and that's my biggest concern regarding my son.

When I was 17yo I was bitterly disapointed on my parents for not supporting my racing enough. Now 17 years later I'm unwilling to do the same thing for my son. The irony in life... = )
8/30/2011 7:38am
ODB wrote:
society is so hypocrytical................motor vehicle accidents kill and maim more kids and adults than anything else ever will .................the jokers who say we need them...
society is so hypocrytical................motor vehicle accidents kill and maim more kids and adults than anything else ever will .................the jokers who say we need them .. lol ..............ride a bike take a horse train etc. ..........life is about choices ,some make it a choice to let their kids have fun ,alot of times fun is inherently dangerous ...................i live with that choice ...................ever read some of the chemicals put in foods ,the pollutants in the air ,the water ,well who cares right ,yeah leave the sport alone mr journalist ,we know its dangerous always was, always will be .....................start a story on the dangers of being obese or MV fatalities ,or cancer causing chemicals jammed into foods ,sugar is widely sought as being a cancer c ausing substance ,do a story on that .

we live in a non communist countries ,yet you'd never know it because every tie you turn around someone is trying to take something from us
themrtoad wrote:
eehh...your point is?
I thought his point was pretty clear! Let me translated for you... Personal choice - ride or don't ride, let your kids ride or don't let them ride. But whatever you choose know that there are far more dangerous things out there in everyday life that are never talked about!
8/30/2011 8:31am Edited Date/Time 8/30/2011 8:32am
Jon Beasley, owner of Budds Creek, said his kids won't be racing mx until they finish college. He's seen a lot.
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This weekend a young rider was killed in an accident in Sweden racing mx. I feel so sad for his relatives and of course also for...
This weekend a young rider was killed in an accident in Sweden racing mx. I feel so sad for his relatives and of course also for the 15yo victim. As a father of a 5yo who is already riding and loving mx, I get scared and worried for his future racing.

I've been around long enough self as a racer and as a journalist, to know that almost everyone gets hurt sooner or later. The difference between those who survive their career with minor injuries (fractures, bad knees etc) and those who get spinal unjuries or headtrauma is most of the times just luck.

So all parents out there, how do we justify for ourselves that it's right to jeopardize or kids health and lifes? If my son started racing when he was an adult by his own choice, than I'm not to blame for whatever happens. If they start earlier than that it's with the help and support of their parents. I'm a diehard motocrossfanatic, and if I look at Go-cart, trail or even enduro it's just not the same but it's at least a little safer. What's your thoughts about all this folks?

I fool myself right now by saing he can keep riding until he gets a little older. But if I am to stop his hobby I better do it quick, otherwise I know it will be 65cc, 85cc, racing locally, regional etc. I know how much he loves riding, I can totally see it in his eyes and I can also see myself at a young age in him. He is probably more talented than I ever was and also I got him started as soon as he was4.

This is the third young racer getting killed in Sweden in just a couple of months, and it has really gotten to my head this time.
I understand this is a really sad and pessimistic post, but I would still like to hear your opinions about your worries, thoughts and experience from a parents point of view.
you have to judge your kids ability and maturity...i know, that is hard to do at 5.

i pulled my kids off of the track at 7 and 8. by then, their fearlessness/aggressiveness far outpaced their ability and maturity. knowing that, i couldn't let them continue. i felt like any injury would be my fault, knowing that they hadn't come to the realization that they were not bulletproof, in spite of having several discussions to the contrary.
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themrtoad wrote:
This weekend a young rider was killed in an accident in Sweden racing mx. I feel so sad for his relatives and of course also for...
This weekend a young rider was killed in an accident in Sweden racing mx. I feel so sad for his relatives and of course also for the 15yo victim. As a father of a 5yo who is already riding and loving mx, I get scared and worried for his future racing.

I've been around long enough self as a racer and as a journalist, to know that almost everyone gets hurt sooner or later. The difference between those who survive their career with minor injuries (fractures, bad knees etc) and those who get spinal unjuries or headtrauma is most of the times just luck.

So all parents out there, how do we justify for ourselves that it's right to jeopardize or kids health and lifes? If my son started racing when he was an adult by his own choice, than I'm not to blame for whatever happens. If they start earlier than that it's with the help and support of their parents. I'm a diehard motocrossfanatic, and if I look at Go-cart, trail or even enduro it's just not the same but it's at least a little safer. What's your thoughts about all this folks?

I fool myself right now by saing he can keep riding until he gets a little older. But if I am to stop his hobby I better do it quick, otherwise I know it will be 65cc, 85cc, racing locally, regional etc. I know how much he loves riding, I can totally see it in his eyes and I can also see myself at a young age in him. He is probably more talented than I ever was and also I got him started as soon as he was4.

This is the third young racer getting killed in Sweden in just a couple of months, and it has really gotten to my head this time.
I understand this is a really sad and pessimistic post, but I would still like to hear your opinions about your worries, thoughts and experience from a parents point of view.
bsm121 wrote:
you have to judge your kids ability and maturity...i know, that is hard to do at 5. i pulled my kids off of the track at...
you have to judge your kids ability and maturity...i know, that is hard to do at 5.

i pulled my kids off of the track at 7 and 8. by then, their fearlessness/aggressiveness far outpaced their ability and maturity. knowing that, i couldn't let them continue. i felt like any injury would be my fault, knowing that they hadn't come to the realization that they were not bulletproof, in spite of having several discussions to the contrary.
You showed maturity and took a tough but clever decision. It's better that your kids cry for a while than that you are crying after an accident.I will really remember your advice, one of the best so far
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ODB wrote:
society is so hypocrytical................motor vehicle accidents kill and maim more kids and adults than anything else ever will .................the jokers who say we need them...
society is so hypocrytical................motor vehicle accidents kill and maim more kids and adults than anything else ever will .................the jokers who say we need them .. lol ..............ride a bike take a horse train etc. ..........life is about choices ,some make it a choice to let their kids have fun ,alot of times fun is inherently dangerous ...................i live with that choice ...................ever read some of the chemicals put in foods ,the pollutants in the air ,the water ,well who cares right ,yeah leave the sport alone mr journalist ,we know its dangerous always was, always will be .....................start a story on the dangers of being obese or MV fatalities ,or cancer causing chemicals jammed into foods ,sugar is widely sought as being a cancer c ausing substance ,do a story on that .

we live in a non communist countries ,yet you'd never know it because every tie you turn around someone is trying to take something from us
themrtoad wrote:
eehh...your point is?
I thought his point was pretty clear! Let me translated for you... Personal choice - ride or don't ride, let your kids ride or don't let...
I thought his point was pretty clear! Let me translated for you... Personal choice - ride or don't ride, let your kids ride or don't let them ride. But whatever you choose know that there are far more dangerous things out there in everyday life that are never talked about!
exactly what. Joining Al Qaida as suicidal bombers. Children soldiers? I can't think of anything organised that's more dangerous. Thanks for your opinion.

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