Dungey Barcia Controversy

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8/19/2011 11:55am
RV had no problem getting around... RD feels he's entitled to a bit to much in my opinion.
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8/19/2011 12:06pm
Ok, ok...

Blake's been my favorite because of his versatility and speed over the last two years; but, Deano really is a lot of fun to watch and listen to.

He's earning this Championship.

As for Dungey? S-T-F-U and race. Justin showed up and roosted on your ass for a good part of the day. Pass him and STFU.

RV is on a Shred-Fest: No amount of bitching or whinning is going to beat him.
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8/19/2011 12:07pm Edited Date/Time 10/5/2011 11:09am
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how dare Barcia show up to a race, and RACE....what was he thinking????

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8/19/2011 12:12pm Edited Date/Time 8/19/2011 12:15pm
NeverRaced wrote:
Dungey needs to grow a pair and pass the kid or shut up about it. Barcia didn't do anything wrong and dungey was just pissed cause...
Dungey needs to grow a pair and pass the kid or shut up about it. Barcia didn't do anything wrong and dungey was just pissed cause it took him 35 minutes to pass him.
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I would say there's more to it than that. Not just with Dungey, but with Reed also. Honda pretty much ruined Reed's chance at the championship...
I would say there's more to it than that. Not just with Dungey, but with Reed also. Honda pretty much ruined Reed's chance at the championship by putting Barcia in. I'm thinking it was intentional also. I could see TwoTwo going to Suzuki next year and Honda being pissed and maybe trying to teach him a lesson or something.
RV had no problem getting around Barcia. Dungey raced Barcia like he did Reed in SX. He Followed lap after lap, waiting for a mistake. Dungey rode like a guy that was hoping to win a title while RV was thinking Fuck you guys, You are racing for second.

As far as Reed goes, If he can't beat Barcia then what is there to complain about. The guy raced like he didn't want to be out there. Just going through the motions. That's not a Honda/Barcia problem but a Reed problem..
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8/19/2011 12:33pm
bartoner wrote:
how dare Barcia show up to a race, and RACE....what was he thinking????
bingo.

i've never liked barcia, but damn he rode good last week. hopefully he will do the same at southwick.
8/19/2011 2:10pm
Sherwood wrote:
RV had no problem getting around... RD feels he's entitled to a bit to much in my opinion.
What exactly does RD feel he's entitled to? I've listened to all of his post-race interviews for Unadilla and I could not find anything where Dungey suggested that he was entitled to this or that. He did say that Barcia needs to show some more respect for the other riders racing. And really, can you blame Dungey for wanting Barcia to ride in a manner that doesn't risk Dungey's title hopes of the three contenders?

I mean, when I drive down the road, I expect other drivers to show a certain level of respect for myself and the other drivers. Barcia's aggressive and that's fine, I love watching him ride. but he has no right to get overly aggressive with the titles contenders at this point in the season when he is not vying for the title himself. I don't care if Barcia beats RV or Dungey, but he should do so because he's faster and not trying to block their way or cross lines in the air when they are riding next to him. He almost took Dungey out, and another foot over could have been the end of Dungey's season. I get that many of you don't like Dungey, but set your personal bias aside and look at this objectively.
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8/19/2011 2:28pm
Wow, from the Vital video...

RD still comes out looking like he's whinning.

RV comes accross as all business, all happy and...well...grateful.

Did ya notice how he had NO complaints about Barcia?
Maybe it's because he simply passed Justin and moved on?
He gave him props and made no complaints.

Yup, RD's gonna get railed in the last 3.
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8/19/2011 2:29pm Edited Date/Time 8/19/2011 2:31pm
I think if you take a look at Racerhead#33 today you will see in Weeges part that he saw an overly aggressive Barcia, talking about him weaving across the track in front of RD several times. I have read on other forums that people that were there saw Barcia cutting across RD's front wheel several times and of course that made Dungey a lot more careful and looked for a safe place to pass which to some of you means he is a pussy..

We all know Barcia is well known for his antics even without Bailey or Weege to confirm his crazy riding, I would tend to believe Ryan when he thinks Barcia is riding in an unsafe or disrespectful manner, he has certainly earned the right to speak his mind just like you all seem to think its OK when Reed speaks his mind cause he earned it. At least we can stop talking about RD thanking his sponsors (a horrible thing to do)...

Its funny how Dungey fans do not put down other riders to show support and seem only to defend him but the fans of other riders use anything RD does to show how terrible he is and how good the other rider is forgetting how their rider acted or rode in the past in a much worse manner. Odd eh?

Anyway, its all overblown and the top riders have always taken issue with certain other riders on the track. In the old days Hanna would have popped Barcia in the mouth of ridden him off the track for that kind thing! RD is super ultra mild mannered compared to many other riders back then and now.
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8/19/2011 2:38pm
raddad wrote:
I think if you take a look at Racerhead#33 today you will see in Weeges part that he saw an overly aggressive Barcia, talking about him...
I think if you take a look at Racerhead#33 today you will see in Weeges part that he saw an overly aggressive Barcia, talking about him weaving across the track in front of RD several times. I have read on other forums that people that were there saw Barcia cutting across RD's front wheel several times and of course that made Dungey a lot more careful and looked for a safe place to pass which to some of you means he is a pussy..

We all know Barcia is well known for his antics even without Bailey or Weege to confirm his crazy riding, I would tend to believe Ryan when he thinks Barcia is riding in an unsafe or disrespectful manner, he has certainly earned the right to speak his mind just like you all seem to think its OK when Reed speaks his mind cause he earned it. At least we can stop talking about RD thanking his sponsors (a horrible thing to do)...

Its funny how Dungey fans do not put down other riders to show support and seem only to defend him but the fans of other riders use anything RD does to show how terrible he is and how good the other rider is forgetting how their rider acted or rode in the past in a much worse manner. Odd eh?

Anyway, its all overblown and the top riders have always taken issue with certain other riders on the track. In the old days Hanna would have popped Barcia in the mouth of ridden him off the track for that kind thing! RD is super ultra mild mannered compared to many other riders back then and now.
So you're calling Barcia "Howerton"?

As for RD's whinning: Why is it that RV made "quick-business" of JB and, therefore, had NOTHING to Bitch about...?

I've been an advocate of RD and was amongst the 1st to take note of his speed at A1-2010. I'm just tired of his complaining about this kind of thing when he should STFU and RACE!

Also, I'm a bit disallusioned with some of the things he's done during his current "transitional-phase" that he's in. That last sentence will make a whole lot more sense in October...and thru-out 2012.

Any bets on his performance in 2012?
8/19/2011 2:44pm
raddad wrote:
I think if you take a look at Racerhead#33 today you will see in Weeges part that he saw an overly aggressive Barcia, talking about him...
I think if you take a look at Racerhead#33 today you will see in Weeges part that he saw an overly aggressive Barcia, talking about him weaving across the track in front of RD several times. I have read on other forums that people that were there saw Barcia cutting across RD's front wheel several times and of course that made Dungey a lot more careful and looked for a safe place to pass which to some of you means he is a pussy..

We all know Barcia is well known for his antics even without Bailey or Weege to confirm his crazy riding, I would tend to believe Ryan when he thinks Barcia is riding in an unsafe or disrespectful manner, he has certainly earned the right to speak his mind just like you all seem to think its OK when Reed speaks his mind cause he earned it. At least we can stop talking about RD thanking his sponsors (a horrible thing to do)...

Its funny how Dungey fans do not put down other riders to show support and seem only to defend him but the fans of other riders use anything RD does to show how terrible he is and how good the other rider is forgetting how their rider acted or rode in the past in a much worse manner. Odd eh?

Anyway, its all overblown and the top riders have always taken issue with certain other riders on the track. In the old days Hanna would have popped Barcia in the mouth of ridden him off the track for that kind thing! RD is super ultra mild mannered compared to many other riders back then and now.
Lot's of Dungey haters...most seem to be RV luvas.
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8/19/2011 2:45pm
TeamGreen wrote:
So you're calling Barcia "Howerton"? As for RD's whinning: Why is it that RV made "quick-business" of JB and, therefore, had NOTHING to Bitch about...? I've...
So you're calling Barcia "Howerton"?

As for RD's whinning: Why is it that RV made "quick-business" of JB and, therefore, had NOTHING to Bitch about...?

I've been an advocate of RD and was amongst the 1st to take note of his speed at A1-2010. I'm just tired of his complaining about this kind of thing when he should STFU and RACE!

Also, I'm a bit disallusioned with some of the things he's done during his current "transitional-phase" that he's in. That last sentence will make a whole lot more sense in October...and thru-out 2012.

Any bets on his performance in 2012?
I see a patent in your posts. I saw this same attitude a couple of month ago. Looks like Dungey went against old hardcore stereotypes.
8/19/2011 2:45pm
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"Dungey meant that it's not fair of Barcia to come in for the last four races and go out there and ride over-aggressive with the title...
"Dungey meant that it's not fair of Barcia to come in for the last four races and go out there and ride over-aggressive with the title contenders since in doing so Barcia could take one of them out of the series. "

Not fair,Really?
Barcia was put on the starting line to place as high up as he could by Honda. Not ride behind title contenders for the fun of it.
And he is still obligated to respect the title contenders. Do you honestly think it would be fair for Barica to come in for the last...
And he is still obligated to respect the title contenders. Do you honestly think it would be fair for Barica to come in for the last four races and ride overly aggressive and knock one of them out of a major series that they have worked their entire life to win? I stand behind everything I said, and Dungey is correct: Barcia needs to respect that and start using his head out there. He went off the track, he crossed lines mid-air, and he has a history of being overly aggressive. Dungey had every right to be upset. I like Barcia, and all is fair in love and war, but for him to be in the war, he needs to be in their for the whole battle if he wants to stake his claim. Coming in for the last four races (which is fine to do) and riding the way he did is not OK. IF he beats Dungey, then fine. But he should do it without riding over his limits and endangering the other riders and especially the title contenders.

I promise you that if Stewart had done that, these boards would be lit up with Stewart-hate. Take the blinders off and look at this objectively instead of which rider you like/dislike more.
Barcia did do all the things you state,but he has every bit as much right to be on the line as any title contender,it' s called racing.
Riding over his limits as you call it is what got Barcia on the podium and to his SX title.
Or do we just have the top three in points race?
8/19/2011 2:45pm Edited Date/Time 8/19/2011 2:54pm
raddad wrote:
I think if you take a look at Racerhead#33 today you will see in Weeges part that he saw an overly aggressive Barcia, talking about him...
I think if you take a look at Racerhead#33 today you will see in Weeges part that he saw an overly aggressive Barcia, talking about him weaving across the track in front of RD several times. I have read on other forums that people that were there saw Barcia cutting across RD's front wheel several times and of course that made Dungey a lot more careful and looked for a safe place to pass which to some of you means he is a pussy..

We all know Barcia is well known for his antics even without Bailey or Weege to confirm his crazy riding, I would tend to believe Ryan when he thinks Barcia is riding in an unsafe or disrespectful manner, he has certainly earned the right to speak his mind just like you all seem to think its OK when Reed speaks his mind cause he earned it. At least we can stop talking about RD thanking his sponsors (a horrible thing to do)...

Its funny how Dungey fans do not put down other riders to show support and seem only to defend him but the fans of other riders use anything RD does to show how terrible he is and how good the other rider is forgetting how their rider acted or rode in the past in a much worse manner. Odd eh?

Anyway, its all overblown and the top riders have always taken issue with certain other riders on the track. In the old days Hanna would have popped Barcia in the mouth of ridden him off the track for that kind thing! RD is super ultra mild mannered compared to many other riders back then and now.
TeamGreen wrote:
So you're calling Barcia "Howerton"? As for RD's whinning: Why is it that RV made "quick-business" of JB and, therefore, had NOTHING to Bitch about...? I've...
So you're calling Barcia "Howerton"?

As for RD's whinning: Why is it that RV made "quick-business" of JB and, therefore, had NOTHING to Bitch about...?

I've been an advocate of RD and was amongst the 1st to take note of his speed at A1-2010. I'm just tired of his complaining about this kind of thing when he should STFU and RACE!

Also, I'm a bit disallusioned with some of the things he's done during his current "transitional-phase" that he's in. That last sentence will make a whole lot more sense in October...and thru-out 2012.

Any bets on his performance in 2012?
Hey green

He did race. He passed Barcia and made his comments AFTER the race.
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8/19/2011 2:58pm
raddad wrote:
I think if you take a look at Racerhead#33 today you will see in Weeges part that he saw an overly aggressive Barcia, talking about him...
I think if you take a look at Racerhead#33 today you will see in Weeges part that he saw an overly aggressive Barcia, talking about him weaving across the track in front of RD several times. I have read on other forums that people that were there saw Barcia cutting across RD's front wheel several times and of course that made Dungey a lot more careful and looked for a safe place to pass which to some of you means he is a pussy..

We all know Barcia is well known for his antics even without Bailey or Weege to confirm his crazy riding, I would tend to believe Ryan when he thinks Barcia is riding in an unsafe or disrespectful manner, he has certainly earned the right to speak his mind just like you all seem to think its OK when Reed speaks his mind cause he earned it. At least we can stop talking about RD thanking his sponsors (a horrible thing to do)...

Its funny how Dungey fans do not put down other riders to show support and seem only to defend him but the fans of other riders use anything RD does to show how terrible he is and how good the other rider is forgetting how their rider acted or rode in the past in a much worse manner. Odd eh?

Anyway, its all overblown and the top riders have always taken issue with certain other riders on the track. In the old days Hanna would have popped Barcia in the mouth of ridden him off the track for that kind thing! RD is super ultra mild mannered compared to many other riders back then and now.
TeamGreen wrote:
So you're calling Barcia "Howerton"? As for RD's whinning: Why is it that RV made "quick-business" of JB and, therefore, had NOTHING to Bitch about...? I've...
So you're calling Barcia "Howerton"?

As for RD's whinning: Why is it that RV made "quick-business" of JB and, therefore, had NOTHING to Bitch about...?

I've been an advocate of RD and was amongst the 1st to take note of his speed at A1-2010. I'm just tired of his complaining about this kind of thing when he should STFU and RACE!

Also, I'm a bit disallusioned with some of the things he's done during his current "transitional-phase" that he's in. That last sentence will make a whole lot more sense in October...and thru-out 2012.

Any bets on his performance in 2012?
Hey green

He did race. He passed Barcia and made his comments AFTER the race.
As did RV...only much quicker and with no sniveling.

That's all.
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8/19/2011 3:06pm
I have to think RV would have tore into Barcia if it was a #2 Kawasaki that Barcia had collided with.
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I have to think RV would have tore into Barcia if it was a #2 Kawasaki that Barcia had collided with.
He would have to have "loitered" around JB like RD did; but, he didn't. He railed right passed him, quickly!

That's my point: Make your pass or STFU.
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8/19/2011 3:13pm
Yeah RV doesnt whine at all. HAHA what a joke! Thats all he's been doing the outdoor season when Reed and RD were whupping him. Boohoo lappers, boohoo I shit my pants, boohoo restart. Yeah he's all smiles now that a race went his way but he's been crying after Southwick when he's the one behind Barcia.
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DownSouth wrote:
I have to think RV would have tore into Barcia if it was a #2 Kawasaki that Barcia had collided with.
TeamGreen wrote:
He would have to have "loitered" around JB like RD did; but, he didn't. He railed right passed him, quickly! That's my point: Make your pass...
He would have to have "loitered" around JB like RD did; but, he didn't. He railed right passed him, quickly!

That's my point: Make your pass or STFU.
sup Team bro, wanna get high?
8/19/2011 3:14pm
TeamGreen wrote:
So you're calling Barcia "Howerton"? As for RD's whinning: Why is it that RV made "quick-business" of JB and, therefore, had NOTHING to Bitch about...? I've...
So you're calling Barcia "Howerton"?

As for RD's whinning: Why is it that RV made "quick-business" of JB and, therefore, had NOTHING to Bitch about...?

I've been an advocate of RD and was amongst the 1st to take note of his speed at A1-2010. I'm just tired of his complaining about this kind of thing when he should STFU and RACE!

Also, I'm a bit disallusioned with some of the things he's done during his current "transitional-phase" that he's in. That last sentence will make a whole lot more sense in October...and thru-out 2012.

Any bets on his performance in 2012?
Hey green

He did race. He passed Barcia and made his comments AFTER the race.
TeamGreen wrote:
As did RV...only much quicker and with no sniveling.

That's all.
Which has nothing to do with your previous comments being wrong about RD ShuttingTFU and racing. Whistling
8/19/2011 3:16pm Edited Date/Time 8/19/2011 3:17pm
Yeah RV doesnt whine at all. HAHA what a joke! Thats all he's been doing the outdoor season when Reed and RD were whupping him. Boohoo...
Yeah RV doesnt whine at all. HAHA what a joke! Thats all he's been doing the outdoor season when Reed and RD were whupping him. Boohoo lappers, boohoo I shit my pants, boohoo restart. Yeah he's all smiles now that a race went his way but he's been crying after Southwick when he's the one behind Barcia.
Don't forget, boohoo Alessi, boohoo J-Law, boohoo Canard, boohoo if I'm not MX1...

Reed/RV speaks his mind and he's refreshing, Dungey speaks his mind and he's whining.
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DownSouth wrote:
I have to think RV would have tore into Barcia if it was a #2 Kawasaki that Barcia had collided with.
TeamGreen wrote:
He would have to have "loitered" around JB like RD did; but, he didn't. He railed right passed him, quickly! That's my point: Make your pass...
He would have to have "loitered" around JB like RD did; but, he didn't. He railed right passed him, quickly!

That's my point: Make your pass or STFU.
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sup Team bro, wanna get high?
Oh, hell no! Arm in a sling and all. Surgery got pretty fuckin' serious-4 repairs where they'd thought they were lookin' at 2.

The pain stuff they gave me is Hydrocodone (sp?) & I even had them frop that down to 5mg to get rid of the "buzz".

Bouhght a beach-cruiser so I can still do something fun: I can't remember the last time I had "coaster-brakes".
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Hey green

He did race. He passed Barcia and made his comments AFTER the race.
TeamGreen wrote:
As did RV...only much quicker and with no sniveling.

That's all.
Which has nothing to do with your previous comments being wrong about RD ShuttingTFU and racing. Whistling
OK, let mr 'splain something to you.

My response to RD's complaining is: Why didn't you just make "quick business" outta JB and move on, like RV did; also, he's, ultimately, complaining about JB racing with the big boys and doin' it "his way" versus something RD would consider "more acceptable"...again...STFU and pass the guy.

So, the point is: STFU and Race. Focus on being in-front and until then...S-T-F-U.

And I'll bet you still don't get it.
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Yeah RV doesnt whine at all. HAHA what a joke! Thats all he's been doing the outdoor season when Reed and RD were whupping him. Boohoo...
Yeah RV doesnt whine at all. HAHA what a joke! Thats all he's been doing the outdoor season when Reed and RD were whupping him. Boohoo lappers, boohoo I shit my pants, boohoo restart. Yeah he's all smiles now that a race went his way but he's been crying after Southwick when he's the one behind Barcia.
Don't forget, boohoo Alessi, boohoo J-Law, boohoo Canard, boohoo if I'm not MX1... Reed/RV speaks his mind and he's refreshing, Dungey speaks his mind and he's...
Don't forget, boohoo Alessi, boohoo J-Law, boohoo Canard, boohoo if I'm not MX1...

Reed/RV speaks his mind and he's refreshing, Dungey speaks his mind and he's whining.
You hear that RD cant pass anyone too? Short term memory around here, he had no prob getting around RV at Milville. Guess at Shougal he didnt pass RV though just gapped his ass. Villo wins for the first time I dont know how many races, and this place fucking blows up. The same people who say Dunge got lucky last year dont see the irony as RV is lucking himself to a second title, but it aint over yet kiddies.
8/19/2011 3:29pm Edited Date/Time 8/19/2011 3:30pm
TeamGreen wrote:
As did RV...only much quicker and with no sniveling.

That's all.
Which has nothing to do with your previous comments being wrong about RD ShuttingTFU and racing. Whistling
TeamGreen wrote:
OK, let mr 'splain something to you. My response to RD's complaining is: Why didn't you just make "quick business" outta JB and move on,[b] like...
OK, let mr 'splain something to you.

My response to RD's complaining is: Why didn't you just make "quick business" outta JB and move on, like RV did; also, he's, ultimately, complaining about JB racing with the big boys and doin' it "his way" versus something RD would consider "more acceptable"...again...STFU and pass the guy.

So, the point is: STFU and Race. Focus on being in-front and until then...S-T-F-U.

And I'll bet you still don't get it.
You post makes no sense since RD wasn't complaining. Wink I bet you still don't get that.
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Which has nothing to do with your previous comments being wrong about RD ShuttingTFU and racing. Whistling
TeamGreen wrote:
OK, let mr 'splain something to you. My response to RD's complaining is: Why didn't you just make "quick business" outta JB and move on,[b] like...
OK, let mr 'splain something to you.

My response to RD's complaining is: Why didn't you just make "quick business" outta JB and move on, like RV did; also, he's, ultimately, complaining about JB racing with the big boys and doin' it "his way" versus something RD would consider "more acceptable"...again...STFU and pass the guy.

So, the point is: STFU and Race. Focus on being in-front and until then...S-T-F-U.

And I'll bet you still don't get it.
You post makes no sense since RD wasn't complaining. Wink I bet you still don't get that.
I think ya might wanna go back and watch the 1st video in this thread.
8/19/2011 3:35pm Edited Date/Time 8/19/2011 3:46pm
TeamGreen wrote:
OK, let mr 'splain something to you. My response to RD's complaining is: Why didn't you just make "quick business" outta JB and move on,[b] like...
OK, let mr 'splain something to you.

My response to RD's complaining is: Why didn't you just make "quick business" outta JB and move on, like RV did; also, he's, ultimately, complaining about JB racing with the big boys and doin' it "his way" versus something RD would consider "more acceptable"...again...STFU and pass the guy.

So, the point is: STFU and Race. Focus on being in-front and until then...S-T-F-U.

And I'll bet you still don't get it.
You post makes no sense since RD wasn't complaining. Wink I bet you still don't get that.
TeamGreen wrote:
I think ya might wanna go back and watch the 1st video in this thread.
I think ya might wanna go back and watch the 1st video in this thread.
I did, and he's not complaining since your idea of complaining is probably much different than mine. If you mean it to say that he was unhappy about Barcia, then I'd agree and say there's no problems since his "complaint" is justified. If you mean to say that he was whining, then I'd disagree.
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If RD wasn't BEHIND BamBam, he wouldn't have anything to say about it. Period.
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Yeah RV doesnt whine at all. HAHA what a joke! Thats all he's been doing the outdoor season when Reed and RD were whupping him. Boohoo...
Yeah RV doesnt whine at all. HAHA what a joke! Thats all he's been doing the outdoor season when Reed and RD were whupping him. Boohoo lappers, boohoo I shit my pants, boohoo restart. Yeah he's all smiles now that a race went his way but he's been crying after Southwick when he's the one behind Barcia.
Don't forget, boohoo Alessi, boohoo J-Law, boohoo Canard, boohoo if I'm not MX1... Reed/RV speaks his mind and he's refreshing, Dungey speaks his mind and he's...
Don't forget, boohoo Alessi, boohoo J-Law, boohoo Canard, boohoo if I'm not MX1...

Reed/RV speaks his mind and he's refreshing, Dungey speaks his mind and he's whining.
You hear that RD cant pass anyone too? Short term memory around here, he had no prob getting around RV at Milville. Guess at Shougal he...
You hear that RD cant pass anyone too? Short term memory around here, he had no prob getting around RV at Milville. Guess at Shougal he didnt pass RV though just gapped his ass. Villo wins for the first time I dont know how many races, and this place fucking blows up. The same people who say Dunge got lucky last year dont see the irony as RV is lucking himself to a second title, but it aint over yet kiddies.
Lucking himself into a title? He's winning motos and races with Dungey, Reed, Alessi, and everybody else out there still racing. Dungey's team fucked up with the gas... that's not really luck, that's just a big OOPPS for team Suzuki.

The whole "luck" deal with Dunge started well before last year back when he was still riding the 250 class... a whole lot of things seemed to "go his way" then and on into his first 450 seasons. Not taking away from his ability or anything else, he just had a good run of hands dealt to him.

It is what it is.

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