CANADAS DES NATIONS TEAM

TerryK
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8/17/2011 10:06pm
Wow, lots of mis information here. Thanks Matthes for clearing some things up.
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8/17/2011 11:09pm
Were will they race...

Race the 2012 US Supercross/Motocross series under their own team with a Canadian sponsor.

Get picked up by a satellite/privateer team (limited Supercross experience) could hurt them.

Race the complete 2012 British Supercross championship, Promoter ( Future West ) Jamie is Canadian.

Rockstar Energy Drink MX Nationals, Red Bull Nationals, Maxxis British Motocross Championship, etc...


Not only these 3 riders should take a stand, all the Canadian riders should support them as a team (MXON)

and as a whole to support one another for changes to CMRC in 2012,

Also... CMRC should look into adding a round to their series in Montana, Its the half way point from the

West rounds, to the East, Cut the long drive between the two, More entries from US riders,

Give the Pro riders in the upper mid-west a chance to experience racing in a national Motocross series,

More exsposure/interest for the series.
8/18/2011 3:39am
somehow I have a feeling that Canadian MX is about to change....it might feel like a low blow this week, but things could be better for a real mxdn effort next year.
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8/18/2011 5:53am Edited Date/Time 8/18/2011 5:55am
If Canadian MX wants to change (which it obviously needs), the track owners (I don't think CMRC owns any of the tracks) have the most power to change it. Simply refuse to hold CMRC nationals. Some might say they would never do that because of financial reasons, but the fact is, if Canadian moto keeps going the way it is unde rthe CMRC, the current series is going to die soon anyway. Better for the track owners to be pro-active and encourage a new series done the right way, instead of waiting a couple of years for the whole scene to disappear under CMRC.

What baffles me is that New Zealand, a small island nation of 4 million located thousands of miles from Europe and the US can produce top calibre riders like Townley and Cody Cooper and we can't even get a guy into the top 20 (or even try). This is not to mention Australia, which also has 10 million less people than Canada.

Maybe we better stick to hockey (wait! we can't even win the Stanley cup). Check that, maybe we better stick to curling.

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8/18/2011 6:05am
Do Canadians ride motocross? I didn't even think they had tracks up there. Never even knew they raced out of their own teams at the MXoN - I thought they sent the best rider of the year over to the U.K., New Zealand or Australia.

How's their speed - any fast riders in Canada?

A real shame they can't build a track and practice enough and get organized enough to send a time to the MX0N.

So are there any fast riders in Canada - what kind of motorcycles do they ride (fixed with studs?)?
8/18/2011 6:28am
In Canada you race a couple times a month during the summer. In California you race a couple times a week all year round.
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8/18/2011 6:38am
Ok here is my pipedream... MX Sports takes over Canadian pro and amateur racing.

I know.. it will never happen, but it would be nice
8/18/2011 6:45am
chase383 wrote:
Ok here is my pipedream... MX Sports takes over Canadian pro and amateur racing.

I know.. it will never happen, but it would be nice
That would be a huge step forward!

It would cause a big stir but as most in this thread, and most Canadians, would agree that it would be a great stepping stone forward.
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8/18/2011 7:21am
fred53 wrote:
berno ,i know the reason why we don't have national cover on motox, but can't really explain in english !! so if you want to know...
berno ,i know the reason why we don't have national cover on motox, but can't really explain in english !! so if you want to know the reason mp me!!

but i agree whit you canadian motocross suck since a couple years now!! we want rxc back!!
Try or put it in french. By the way MotoX sucks so bad this year, they are going the same way that the montreal SX.
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8/18/2011 8:13am
Fred told me MotoX doesnt show the Nationals this year is because RDS has all their shows in HD... MotoX takes the footage from the Nationals from the guys who film for SportsNet (still non-HD). They always have and we all knew that but they cannot anymore because RDS wants the show to be in HD... So I guess Stally's TV equipment needs an update too.
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8/18/2011 8:25am
I'm sure Stally's TV equipement at home is just fine, big home theater and all.
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8/18/2011 10:27am
Maybe I'm wrong but I don't the CMRC is promoting races. They promote the pro series (series not races) and promote no amateur races but amateur races are still bad. Conflict of interest or not if the management is bad it's gonna be bad.

For MX sports they promote the series and a (maybe more) race. Ok little conflict of interest between the 2 but with good people I don't think it cause problem.




Again if you are pay or not, if you are in conflict of interest or not doesn't really mather. If you care about the sport you will make things work and if you only care about your personnal interest the sport will suffer. People are so into finding conspiracy theory everywhere that they can't make difference between good and bad people.
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8/18/2011 10:44am
I'm not about to read 3 pages of political bullshit. All I know is Canada is a big country with some very fast motocross riders and that it is a disgusting shame that it can't put a team together for what is essentially the Olympics of our sport.

Disgraceful.
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8/18/2011 11:50am
pilotdude wrote:
I'm not about to read 3 pages of political bullshit. All I know is Canada is a big country with some very fast motocross riders and...
I'm not about to read 3 pages of political bullshit. All I know is Canada is a big country with some very fast motocross riders and that it is a disgusting shame that it can't put a team together for what is essentially the Olympics of our sport.

Disgraceful.
With all this Oil Sand they are digging out of the ground ya think they could donate some cash. The Oil Sand business from what i hear is getting a bad rap so putting out funds for a team just might get a few votes.
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8/18/2011 2:00pm Edited Date/Time 8/18/2011 2:00pm
hey ,nobodies ever accused either sanctioning body of being a good business man,if they actually could get their shit together enough to co-operate the money is out there i'm sure
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8/18/2011 2:58pm
pilotdude wrote:
I'm not about to read 3 pages of political bullshit. All I know is Canada is a big country with some very fast motocross riders and...
I'm not about to read 3 pages of political bullshit. All I know is Canada is a big country with some very fast motocross riders and that it is a disgusting shame that it can't put a team together for what is essentially the Olympics of our sport.

Disgraceful.
NeverRaced wrote:
With all this Oil Sand they are digging out of the ground ya think they could donate some cash. The Oil Sand business from what i...
With all this Oil Sand they are digging out of the ground ya think they could donate some cash. The Oil Sand business from what i hear is getting a bad rap so putting out funds for a team just might get a few votes.
It's been discussed, no shit.

There are Moto-Folk up in Ft. Mc Murray...
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8/18/2011 3:40pm
Danster wrote:
Why don't... Colton Facciotti (MX1) Dusty Klatt (MX3) Tyler Medaglia (MX2) try and ask... FFM (France federation) and or local teams, help with bikes? Have a...
Why don't... Colton Facciotti (MX1) Dusty Klatt (MX3) Tyler Medaglia (MX2)
try and ask... FFM (France federation) and or local teams, help with bikes?
Have a fundraiser through... Directmotocross and MXForum with flights, etc...?
Then have the "Balls" to tell CMRC that they are going as a private Canadian
MXON team, and if they have a problem with it. Boycott the Canadian outdoor
motocross series? What Canadian fans are going to pay moneys to watch
a race without their top country riders in 2012?
I also think that fans from the US would also help with donations.
If many riders and fans are not happy with the way the CMRC its time to take
a stand against them and show them that the people (riders) are serious and
its time for a change!

Can't we all get along?
DV on twitter offered to help get everything sorted for bikes which is super cool of him but I think all this political bs got in the way. Super lame
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8/18/2011 7:16pm
I came to the conclusion several years back that the only way to affect real change in this country is to essentially tell the CMRC to get fucked, and stop giving them your money.

Take your business elsewhere. There are strong local racing organizations creeping up all across the country. Slowly, people are getting the message - the CMRC has NOTHING to offer a local racing association. All they do is siphon profits and increase the costs of racing with their exorbitant fees and AMA Pro copied rulebook.

They ran a nice little National series there for awhile. Every rider in the country followed it. Good TV, cool tracks, strong teams. But I feel that the writing could be on the wall for the Nationals too. They need to put some cash back in the riders pockets. A whopping thousand bucks to win a 450 National. They'd do well to remember their own history - guys switched from the CMA because they wanted to get paid.
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8/18/2011 8:19pm
Are Canuckleheads even any good at moto?

Who's their fastest rider / riders?

Can they compete with the rest of th world?
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8/18/2011 8:39pm
Adam43 wrote:
I came to the conclusion several years back that the only way to affect real change in this country is to essentially tell the CMRC to...
I came to the conclusion several years back that the only way to affect real change in this country is to essentially tell the CMRC to get fucked, and stop giving them your money.

Take your business elsewhere. There are strong local racing organizations creeping up all across the country. Slowly, people are getting the message - the CMRC has NOTHING to offer a local racing association. All they do is siphon profits and increase the costs of racing with their exorbitant fees and AMA Pro copied rulebook.

They ran a nice little National series there for awhile. Every rider in the country followed it. Good TV, cool tracks, strong teams. But I feel that the writing could be on the wall for the Nationals too. They need to put some cash back in the riders pockets. A whopping thousand bucks to win a 450 National. They'd do well to remember their own history - guys switched from the CMA because they wanted to get paid.
This. Just across the border from Manitoba there is this cool little series run by the DMC-great tracks, reasonable fees, no license, sign up the morning of, finish racing by 4 or 5, home by 7, and that INCLUDES a border crossing! Long enough motos, big value for the buck. Lots of Canadians (well, Manitobans) fed up with the CMRC and any affiliate and taking their business elsewhere. Oh, and the tracks are safe as shit. That is where the smart people are racing.

There is so much more I can say, but if I go off I may end up requiring medical attention, so I'll stop now.
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8/18/2011 9:15pm
When is Colts contract up ? I'd sure like to see him full time down here .
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8/18/2011 11:55pm
MXR wrote:
When is Colts contract up ? I'd sure like to see him full time down here .
September 30 2011.
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8/19/2011 12:22am
MXR wrote:
When is Colts contract up ? I'd sure like to see him full time down here .
As long as he can keep getting paid solid cash to clean-up a 9 round series, I'd be surprised to see him leave for more than a race or two here-and-there.
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8/19/2011 3:44am
apparently a huge offroad riders group was going to get involved and make some changes for the good ,although i haven't heard anything as of late
8/19/2011 9:10am
Personally I think things would be all around better if there was no Blackfoot team......now hear me out.

Realistically they are head and shoulders above the other teams in Canada with experience and money and therefore get the talent. The tight reign they put on the riders for "extra" events is what hurts, the fact they will not enter events when they think they can't win, or will not attempt anything with less than a complete effort is a downfall.

I don't think they are the Mitch Payton of Canada, they just start with the best talent and biggest budgets and keep it going, they don't mold riders, they buy them. If Colt rode for someone else, he would still win, and he may be able to race outside of Canada.

now back to my point, Blackfoot for some reason lately will never commit to MxdN but seems to string things along and cause turmoil. If the team doesn't want to go, thats fine, but let the riders. Sell Team Canada the race bikes at the end of the cdn nats and let CMA look after the logistics. Team Canada can then sell off the bikes to fans after the race to recoup some money. Take the stickers off the bikes and not be involved, just let the riders represent. If the bullshit on no TV coverage is true, and the CMRC/CMA fighting, how will stally televise an event without showing the fastest guys? (today we will interview 5th overall on the podium). Let the riders that want to, represent.

Plain and simple let the fastest guys go, announce at the first of the year that the fastest guys will be going and begin looking for funding. none of this trying to throw shit together at the last minutes with whoever is allowed and hoping that T-shirts cover the bill
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8/19/2011 9:39am
bents wrote:
This. Just across the border from Manitoba there is this cool little series run by the DMC-great tracks, reasonable fees, no license, sign up the morning...
This. Just across the border from Manitoba there is this cool little series run by the DMC-great tracks, reasonable fees, no license, sign up the morning of, finish racing by 4 or 5, home by 7, and that INCLUDES a border crossing! Long enough motos, big value for the buck. Lots of Canadians (well, Manitobans) fed up with the CMRC and any affiliate and taking their business elsewhere. Oh, and the tracks are safe as shit. That is where the smart people are racing.

There is so much more I can say, but if I go off I may end up requiring medical attention, so I'll stop now.
While I agree with the overall sentiment your post is full of incorrect info. DMC requires a Season Membership @ $65 or a Daily Membership @ $12 to race so it's not a $130 CMRC licence but it's no free pass either. How do you decide long enough motos? The last DMC race I did was Finley and while I had a great time and loved the atmosphere the lap times in my class were roughly one minute and we did 4 laps, when my fat ass comes off the track begging for more laps you have a problem.
Can't argue with the safe tracks thing although I will say I'd choose Grunthal over Finley, Brooks etc anyday.

Again I agree with the sentiment of your post and I personally feel the MMA was better off when we split from the CMRC just wanted to point out some inaccuracies in your post.

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