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CLOS 157 7/15/2011 3:28pm
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txmxer wrote:
Who's the next rider and team that Brooks short term thinking is going to be dismantle? Time will tell. Hopefully, the top guys will do a...
Who's the next rider and team that Brooks short term thinking is going to be dismantle? Time will tell.

Hopefully, the top guys will do a better job of seeing the big picture based on past performance than Chad and James did.
CLOS 157 wrote:
Really? You are right LB makes them race only SX...Kook!
txmxer wrote:
Thanks Larry. It's not a personal comment, it's an observation of outcomes. Whatever you are doing isn't working in the long term. Two " legends" have...
Thanks Larry. It's not a personal comment, it's an observation of outcomes.

Whatever you are doing isn't working in the long term. Two " legends" have had to rebuild their careers after they worked with you. You can blame them or you can fix your program, or you can post stupid shit on the interweb. Your call.
""You can blame them or you can fix your program""" FIX YOUR PROGRAM? Are you for real? Shit the only thing he needs to fix is the wall above his office so he can make more room for #1 SUPERCROSS Championship plates!.....Baahaaaa
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CLOS 157 wrote:
""You can blame them or you can fix your program""" FIX YOUR PROGRAM? Are you for real? Shit the only thing he needs to fix is...
""You can blame them or you can fix your program""" FIX YOUR PROGRAM? Are you for real? Shit the only thing he needs to fix is the wall above his office so he can make more room for #1 SUPERCROSS Championship plates!.....Baahaaaa
Lol. Did someone say coattails?
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CLOS 157 wrote:
""You can blame them or you can fix your program""" FIX YOUR PROGRAM? Are you for real? Shit the only thing he needs to fix is...
""You can blame them or you can fix your program""" FIX YOUR PROGRAM? Are you for real? Shit the only thing he needs to fix is the wall above his office so he can make more room for #1 SUPERCROSS Championship plates!.....Baahaaaa
txmxer wrote:
Lol. Did someone say coattails?
I'm not understanding the "coattails" joke. Sorry, I must be slow or sustained some Drain Bamage over the years of riding. Can someone explain "coattails" please.
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Faceaz 7/15/2011 7:01pm
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CLOS 157 wrote:
""You can blame them or you can fix your program""" FIX YOUR PROGRAM? Are you for real? Shit the only thing he needs to fix is...
""You can blame them or you can fix your program""" FIX YOUR PROGRAM? Are you for real? Shit the only thing he needs to fix is the wall above his office so he can make more room for #1 SUPERCROSS Championship plates!.....Baahaaaa
txmxer wrote:
Lol. Did someone say coattails?
HighCam wrote:
I'm not understanding the "coattails" joke. Sorry, I must be slow or sustained some Drain Bamage over the years of riding. Can someone explain "coattails" please.
Are you serious?


LB is decent (at best) at maintaining champions - getting an existing champion on payroll & providing them with adequate bikes to get the job done. MC - established @ Honda, never looked his best there on LB's team, but good enough to get a few more titles. Reed - was on and off there, but never looked as good as he did on the Suzuki or his current ride. Stewart - hopefully everyone is old enough to remember. A really great team manager can develop talent - RD with Dungey, Mitch Payton time & time agian - etc. I can't think of one rider LB has taken on @ the beginning of their pro career & developed them into a champion.

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BobbyM 7/15/2011 7:21pm
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txmxer wrote:
Lol. Did someone say coattails?
HighCam wrote:
I'm not understanding the "coattails" joke. Sorry, I must be slow or sustained some Drain Bamage over the years of riding. Can someone explain "coattails" please.
Faceaz wrote:
Are you serious? LB is decent (at best) at maintaining champions - getting an existing champion on payroll & providing them with adequate bikes to get...
Are you serious?


LB is decent (at best) at maintaining champions - getting an existing champion on payroll & providing them with adequate bikes to get the job done. MC - established @ Honda, never looked his best there on LB's team, but good enough to get a few more titles. Reed - was on and off there, but never looked as good as he did on the Suzuki or his current ride. Stewart - hopefully everyone is old enough to remember. A really great team manager can develop talent - RD with Dungey, Mitch Payton time & time agian - etc. I can't think of one rider LB has taken on @ the beginning of their pro career & developed them into a champion.
what are you good at...besides chuggling?
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CLOS 157 7/15/2011 7:46pm
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HighCam wrote:
I'm not understanding the "coattails" joke. Sorry, I must be slow or sustained some Drain Bamage over the years of riding. Can someone explain "coattails" please.
Faceaz wrote:
Are you serious? LB is decent (at best) at maintaining champions - getting an existing champion on payroll & providing them with adequate bikes to get...
Are you serious?


LB is decent (at best) at maintaining champions - getting an existing champion on payroll & providing them with adequate bikes to get the job done. MC - established @ Honda, never looked his best there on LB's team, but good enough to get a few more titles. Reed - was on and off there, but never looked as good as he did on the Suzuki or his current ride. Stewart - hopefully everyone is old enough to remember. A really great team manager can develop talent - RD with Dungey, Mitch Payton time & time agian - etc. I can't think of one rider LB has taken on @ the beginning of their pro career & developed them into a champion.
BobbyM wrote:
what are you good at...besides chuggling?
Understand its the big boy class $$$ money on the line..Why in the world---would you ,if you were smart enough--- start from the middle or the bottom? Why not go for the juggler and try to win? That’s what defines LB he understood the opportunity made and the best of it and won…Your bullshit with “Maintaining a Champion” I don’t think so, he provides the tools to continue to be champion (AT HALF THE EFFORT- SX ONLY)…Wait maybe I should ride out-door for free then make my money in SX? O’ that’s right Larry got all the sponsors the Factory, etc..as a used car sales man RIGHT! I feel little wind of Stewart regretting separating with the Master of SX…hum “Larry please come save me” !
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Faceaz 7/15/2011 7:48pm
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HighCam wrote:
I'm not understanding the "coattails" joke. Sorry, I must be slow or sustained some Drain Bamage over the years of riding. Can someone explain "coattails" please.
Faceaz wrote:
Are you serious? LB is decent (at best) at maintaining champions - getting an existing champion on payroll & providing them with adequate bikes to get...
Are you serious?


LB is decent (at best) at maintaining champions - getting an existing champion on payroll & providing them with adequate bikes to get the job done. MC - established @ Honda, never looked his best there on LB's team, but good enough to get a few more titles. Reed - was on and off there, but never looked as good as he did on the Suzuki or his current ride. Stewart - hopefully everyone is old enough to remember. A really great team manager can develop talent - RD with Dungey, Mitch Payton time & time agian - etc. I can't think of one rider LB has taken on @ the beginning of their pro career & developed them into a champion.
BobbyM wrote:
what are you good at...besides chuggling?
I'm good @ not blowing my favorite team managers dick every chance I get. You're comments are so transparrent / biased, few give you any credibility anymore. A few months ago there seemed to be more people on the BobbyM Koolaid, than not. Now most people have realized you're nothing more than a biased dick, that is kissing your friends ass by slamming others.
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Faceaz 7/15/2011 7:56pm
7/15/2011 7:56pm Edited Date/Time 7/15/2011 7:59pm
Faceaz wrote:
Are you serious? LB is decent (at best) at maintaining champions - getting an existing champion on payroll & providing them with adequate bikes to get...
Are you serious?


LB is decent (at best) at maintaining champions - getting an existing champion on payroll & providing them with adequate bikes to get the job done. MC - established @ Honda, never looked his best there on LB's team, but good enough to get a few more titles. Reed - was on and off there, but never looked as good as he did on the Suzuki or his current ride. Stewart - hopefully everyone is old enough to remember. A really great team manager can develop talent - RD with Dungey, Mitch Payton time & time agian - etc. I can't think of one rider LB has taken on @ the beginning of their pro career & developed them into a champion.
BobbyM wrote:
what are you good at...besides chuggling?
CLOS 157 wrote:
Understand its the big boy class $$$ money on the line..Why in the world---would you ,if you were smart enough--- start from the middle or the...
Understand its the big boy class $$$ money on the line..Why in the world---would you ,if you were smart enough--- start from the middle or the bottom? Why not go for the juggler and try to win? That’s what defines LB he understood the opportunity made and the best of it and won…Your bullshit with “Maintaining a Champion” I don’t think so, he provides the tools to continue to be champion (AT HALF THE EFFORT- SX ONLY)…Wait maybe I should ride out-door for free then make my money in SX? O’ that’s right Larry got all the sponsors the Factory, etc..as a used car sales man RIGHT! I feel little wind of Stewart regretting separating with the Master of SX…hum “Larry please come save me” !
Three very simple reasons:

1) Because that's part of what makes a great team manager - developing talent.
2) A feeling of accomplishment from doing so.
3) Money. Gauranteed, Dungeys Championships have cost Suzuki less than any other current premier rider. Dungey has numerous champioships & is rummored to have a. 750k salary. You buy a Stewart, McGrath, Carmichael & you're paying 2 to 3 times that. Develop a rider & you've got him on the cheap. How much do you think Dungey will be making next year, more or less than when he won the MXDN, Supercross & Motocross titles all in one year?

"Provides the tools to continue being a Champion" & "Maintaining a Champion" - sound pretty similar to me.
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ME686 7/15/2011 8:07pm
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HOLY SHIT. Secrets out... the factory Honda is a great bike and KDUB looks comfortable! Who woulda fuggin imagined?
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Sondy132001 wrote:
I agree, RJ & MC...pure confidence, everyone else was just doing their job !! Bikes make the man, if you don't like your bike(s) it shows...
I agree, RJ & MC...pure confidence, everyone else was just doing their job !! Bikes make the man, if you don't like your bike(s) it shows !! Honda is top notch regardless of what people think.

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Not discounting the bike or the comments he made. It's just obvious that he would like to be with Honda moving forward and it's showing in...
Not discounting the bike or the comments he made. It's just obvious that he would like to be with Honda moving forward and it's showing in his interview.
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Given the history it seems pretty obvious to me he is just trying to discredit Reed, by over-crediting the bike. Of course the factory Honda is...
Given the history it seems pretty obvious to me he is just trying to discredit Reed, by over-crediting the bike. Of course the factory Honda is a good bike, who ever said it wasn't?
the-bike-matters...Reed-is-great,-however-he-is-better-on-that-Honda...The-only-reason-anyone-would-think-it-doesnt-matter-,hasn't-tested-on-other-bikes-than-the-one-that-they-choose-to-ride/race...
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CLOS 157 7/15/2011 8:10pm
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BobbyM wrote:
what are you good at...besides chuggling?
CLOS 157 wrote:
Understand its the big boy class $$$ money on the line..Why in the world---would you ,if you were smart enough--- start from the middle or the...
Understand its the big boy class $$$ money on the line..Why in the world---would you ,if you were smart enough--- start from the middle or the bottom? Why not go for the juggler and try to win? That’s what defines LB he understood the opportunity made and the best of it and won…Your bullshit with “Maintaining a Champion” I don’t think so, he provides the tools to continue to be champion (AT HALF THE EFFORT- SX ONLY)…Wait maybe I should ride out-door for free then make my money in SX? O’ that’s right Larry got all the sponsors the Factory, etc..as a used car sales man RIGHT! I feel little wind of Stewart regretting separating with the Master of SX…hum “Larry please come save me” !
Faceaz wrote:
Three very simple reasons: 1) Because that's part of what makes a great team manager - developing talent. 2) A feeling of accomplishment from doing so...
Three very simple reasons:

1) Because that's part of what makes a great team manager - developing talent.
2) A feeling of accomplishment from doing so.
3) Money. Gauranteed, Dungeys Championships have cost Suzuki less than any other current premier rider. Dungey has numerous champioships & is rummored to have a. 750k salary. You buy a Stewart, McGrath, Carmichael & you're paying 2 to 3 times that. Develop a rider & you've got him on the cheap. How much do you think Dungey will be making next year, more or less than when he won the MXDN, Supercross & Motocross titles all in one year?

"Provides the tools to continue being a Champion" & "Maintaining a Champion" - sound pretty similar to me.
Sorry for getting in this fight it obviously not right, because you don’t understand when it MAJOR LEAGUE TIME..if you are claiming that getting talent for cheap is a great team manager- WOW how impressive (Team Green) I’m sure Roger Penske subscribes to that. When it Larry time it’s WIN time…
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Faceaz 7/15/2011 8:25pm
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Almost completely incoherent at best - for some reason I'm not suprised,
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BobbyM 7/15/2011 8:32pm
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Faceaz wrote:
Three very simple reasons: 1) Because that's part of what makes a great team manager - developing talent. 2) A feeling of accomplishment from doing so...
Three very simple reasons:

1) Because that's part of what makes a great team manager - developing talent.
2) A feeling of accomplishment from doing so.
3) Money. Gauranteed, Dungeys Championships have cost Suzuki less than any other current premier rider. Dungey has numerous champioships & is rummored to have a. 750k salary. You buy a Stewart, McGrath, Carmichael & you're paying 2 to 3 times that. Develop a rider & you've got him on the cheap. How much do you think Dungey will be making next year, more or less than when he won the MXDN, Supercross & Motocross titles all in one year?

"Provides the tools to continue being a Champion" & "Maintaining a Champion" - sound pretty similar to me.
lol... how the fuck do you know what it takes to be a good mx manager? yer a joke and a pathetic little twerp...prove me otherwise boy.

when i stand behind a guy i like i'm 100%...kinda like you when yer beneath a guy.
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Faceaz 7/15/2011 8:46pm
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Faceaz wrote:
Three very simple reasons: 1) Because that's part of what makes a great team manager - developing talent. 2) A feeling of accomplishment from doing so...
Three very simple reasons:

1) Because that's part of what makes a great team manager - developing talent.
2) A feeling of accomplishment from doing so.
3) Money. Gauranteed, Dungeys Championships have cost Suzuki less than any other current premier rider. Dungey has numerous champioships & is rummored to have a. 750k salary. You buy a Stewart, McGrath, Carmichael & you're paying 2 to 3 times that. Develop a rider & you've got him on the cheap. How much do you think Dungey will be making next year, more or less than when he won the MXDN, Supercross & Motocross titles all in one year?

"Provides the tools to continue being a Champion" & "Maintaining a Champion" - sound pretty similar to me.
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lol... how the fuck do you know what it takes to be a good mx manager? yer a joke and a pathetic little twerp...prove me otherwise...
lol... how the fuck do you know what it takes to be a good mx manager? yer a joke and a pathetic little twerp...prove me otherwise boy.

when i stand behind a guy i like i'm 100%...kinda like you when yer beneath a guy.
I know virtually no one in the industry, so I have no incentive to kiss ass. I know plenty about management, have a Business Management Degree, was a Project Manager for years before becoming Vice President / Division Manager, all before turning 35. I worked quite a bit in the industry, while going to school. While the current company I work for has nothing to do with motorcycles, management principles draw parallels across industries & I've been around motocross plenty to identify good management.
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BobbyM 7/15/2011 8:49pm
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I know virtually no one in the industry, so I have no incentive to kiss ass. I know plenty about management, have a Business Management Degree...
I know virtually no one in the industry, so I have no incentive to kiss ass. I know plenty about management, have a Business Management Degree, was a Project Manager for years before becoming Vice President / Division Manager, all before turning 35. I worked quite a bit in the industry, while going to school. While the current company I work for has nothing to do with motorcycles, management principles draw parallels across industries & I've been around motocross plenty to identify good management.
well you suck ass at networking no doubt...then again when you hide behind a "screen" name you can't make many connections and are considered an illusion. no doubt you love motocross and business...i mean look at you. lmfao.


i love this one....

I've been around motocross plenty to identify good management.

i was into hot-wheels when i was a kid....shoulda moved to Detroit and been another Iaccoca i suppose...dork
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Faceaz 7/15/2011 9:03pm
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I could give 2 shits about networking within the motocross community - for me it's a hobby. I realized allong time ago, if you make your hobby into your job, you won't love it nearly as much. But, maybe you proving me wrong - you seem to love sucking LB's dick & it certainly seems like your job.
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BobbyM 7/15/2011 9:07pm
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I could give 2 shits about networking within the motocross community - for me it's a hobby. I realized allong time ago, if you make your...
I could give 2 shits about networking within the motocross community - for me it's a hobby. I realized allong time ago, if you make your hobby into your job, you won't love it nearly as much. But, maybe you proving me wrong - you seem to love sucking LB's dick & it certainly seems like your job.
yer a unknown badass no doubt..

and you don't give a shit about the sport but you stalk my fat ass every chance you get. damn straight priorities you got there son. you must give 3 shits about me i presume...maybe 4 shits after i read yer next reply

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Faceaz 7/15/2011 9:30pm
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Faceaz wrote:
I could give 2 shits about networking within the motocross community - for me it's a hobby. I realized allong time ago, if you make your...
I could give 2 shits about networking within the motocross community - for me it's a hobby. I realized allong time ago, if you make your hobby into your job, you won't love it nearly as much. But, maybe you proving me wrong - you seem to love sucking LB's dick & it certainly seems like your job.
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yer a unknown badass no doubt.. and you don't give a shit about the sport but you stalk my fat ass every chance you get. damn...
yer a unknown badass no doubt..

and you don't give a shit about the sport but you stalk my fat ass every chance you get. damn straight priorities you got there son. you must give 3 shits about me i presume...maybe 4 shits after i read yer next reply
Your right, maybe your worth 3 shits. Because, I believe that's the total amount of comments I've made regarding your posts - apparently that constitutes stalking.

I actually used to enjoy your posts & I'm sure I've posted that before. Like I said, I believe your posts regarding SM / LB come with quite a bit of bias & therefor lack credibility. Been on here since 08 & never jumped on your posts till this topic. Never even jumped on you with all your KTM bashing. though I feel your comments are made in some way to paint a better picture of Alessi.
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BobbyM 7/15/2011 9:39pm
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Your right, maybe your worth 3 shits. Because, I believe that's the total amount of comments I've made regarding your posts - apparently that constitutes stalking...
Your right, maybe your worth 3 shits. Because, I believe that's the total amount of comments I've made regarding your posts - apparently that constitutes stalking.

I actually used to enjoy your posts & I'm sure I've posted that before. Like I said, I believe your posts regarding SM / LB come with quite a bit of bias & therefor lack credibility. Been on here since 08 & never jumped on your posts till this topic. Never even jumped on you with all your KTM bashing. though I feel your comments are made in some way to paint a better picture of Alessi.
4 and please no sucking up, you don't have it in you. Smile
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I don't like him on a personal level but it confuses me on why anyone would question his ability as a team manager.
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Faceaz 7/15/2011 9:58pm
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Your right, maybe your worth 3 shits. Because, I believe that's the total amount of comments I've made regarding your posts - apparently that constitutes stalking...
Your right, maybe your worth 3 shits. Because, I believe that's the total amount of comments I've made regarding your posts - apparently that constitutes stalking.

I actually used to enjoy your posts & I'm sure I've posted that before. Like I said, I believe your posts regarding SM / LB come with quite a bit of bias & therefor lack credibility. Been on here since 08 & never jumped on your posts till this topic. Never even jumped on you with all your KTM bashing. though I feel your comments are made in some way to paint a better picture of Alessi.
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4 and please no sucking up, you don't have it in you. Smile
Blah, Blah, Blah.... making it 5.

BigHeadBobbyM thinking networking in motocross must involve him & he's being stalked.

Can you find something good - non SM / LB or KTM - that's worth reading, or does that just not get the ratings?
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How well would Honda be doing "right now" if Reed didn't start his own team and choose Honda. Reed and PC made that Honda work, Factory Honda didn't jump on board until they seen that Reed was a title contender. Reed made that bike, that bike didn't make Reed. I think Chad deserves a lot more credit for that bike.
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I once managed a gas station. Does that mean I could run a NASCAR team?
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jasonv43 7/15/2011 11:49pm
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txmxer wrote:
Thanks Larry. It's not a personal comment, it's an observation of outcomes. Whatever you are doing isn't working in the long term. Two " legends" have...
Thanks Larry. It's not a personal comment, it's an observation of outcomes.

Whatever you are doing isn't working in the long term. Two " legends" have had to rebuild their careers after they worked with you. You can blame them or you can fix your program, or you can post stupid shit on the interweb. Your call.
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please name the first and the second. The way I see it Jeremy rebuilt his career with Larry. Chad was at his first peak with Larry...
please name the first and the second.

The way I see it Jeremy rebuilt his career with Larry. Chad was at his first peak with Larry. James imploded after firing Larry. Alessi came closer than ever to championship with Larry.

And as far as "long term"? Most Motocross careers can't even be measured in "long term".

I am still not giving an inch on the SLC incident, though.
GrapeApe wrote:
Not so much careers, but you can't deny public relations and reputations needed rebuilding. Something about that team seems to sap all of the fun out...
Not so much careers, but you can't deny public relations and reputations needed rebuilding. Something about that team seems to sap all of the fun out of racing, and it is reflected in the riders' attitudes. Reed and Stewart both reached all time lows in popularity under the L&M umbrella. Reed got out, and has completely restored his popularity with the fans. Hopefully Stewart does the same. They are both better riders when they are smiling.
Agreed
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Motodude 7/16/2011 4:12am
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..wait..Brooks is unemployed right?
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Sondy132001 wrote:
This is pure make believe: Let's say you make a million dollars from your team to race mx & sx, now you get a new team...
This is pure make believe: Let's say you make a million dollars from your team to race mx & sx, now you get a new team and they offer you 2 million to ride sx only...what would you do ? Just asking what you would do nothing more....

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If i was offered 2 million dollars to race SX only, i would sign that contract to race from January to May for the team for...
If i was offered 2 million dollars to race SX only, i would sign that contract to race from January to May for the team for 2 million dollars, then look for another deal to earn more money to race outdoors.

I dont understand why these riders who say they are only signing SX only contracts then signing for the full 12 months, surely if a team wanted you that bad for SX only they would be happy to sign you for the 5 months of SX only.
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5 MONTH CONTRACT...NEVER FUCKING HEARD OF EM.
Never heard of a 5 month contract ?

A contract is an agreement between two or more parties right, they can put what ever they want in a contract. I rider of James, Chad, Villo and Ryan could pretty much ask for what ever they want contract wise. what is stopping them signing for a team for SX only with the Contract finished the second the Vegas race is over and leave them selves the freedom to either not race outdoors as they earnt enough doing SX ONLY or make some extra cash by signing and outdoor contract with another team or the same team.

Just because you have not heard of it , or can not even ponder someone signing for only 5 months does not mean it cant be done!
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Aaryn234 7/16/2011 4:35am
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MX690 wrote:
How well would Honda be doing "right now" if Reed didn't start his own team and choose Honda. Reed and PC made that Honda work, Factory...
How well would Honda be doing "right now" if Reed didn't start his own team and choose Honda. Reed and PC made that Honda work, Factory Honda didn't jump on board until they seen that Reed was a title contender. Reed made that bike, that bike didn't make Reed. I think Chad deserves a lot more credit for that bike.
Agree 100%

What the Honda just became the best bike out there the Year Chad started doing well on it ! Last year everyone was talking the Suzuki up saying it was the best bike out there, so Dunge was winning in part to him being on the best bike.

Chads bike looks so good out there becaue he has it working for him, how about throwing some credit Chads way, maybe it is the fact that he has found the right people to put around him who can understand what he is saying when things dont feel right so it can be corrected.

is the 2011 Honda really leaps and bounds better than the 09 and 10 model factory race bikes, or is it Reed and his team found what it needed to work the best for Chad...
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HighCam 7/16/2011 6:16am
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MX690 wrote:
How well would Honda be doing "right now" if Reed didn't start his own team and choose Honda. Reed and PC made that Honda work, Factory...
How well would Honda be doing "right now" if Reed didn't start his own team and choose Honda. Reed and PC made that Honda work, Factory Honda didn't jump on board until they seen that Reed was a title contender. Reed made that bike, that bike didn't make Reed. I think Chad deserves a lot more credit for that bike.
Aaryn234 wrote:
Agree 100% What the Honda just became the best bike out there the Year Chad started doing well on it ! Last year everyone was talking...
Agree 100%

What the Honda just became the best bike out there the Year Chad started doing well on it ! Last year everyone was talking the Suzuki up saying it was the best bike out there, so Dunge was winning in part to him being on the best bike.

Chads bike looks so good out there becaue he has it working for him, how about throwing some credit Chads way, maybe it is the fact that he has found the right people to put around him who can understand what he is saying when things dont feel right so it can be corrected.

is the 2011 Honda really leaps and bounds better than the 09 and 10 model factory race bikes, or is it Reed and his team found what it needed to work the best for Chad...
Have you read the article that started this thread? If you had, you would know that Brooks gave Reed props for riding great and that the Factory Honda seems like it's the best bike out there.

Go the Racerxill.com and have a read, Mate.
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Faceaz 7/16/2011 8:39am
7/16/2011 8:39am
MX690 wrote:
How well would Honda be doing "right now" if Reed didn't start his own team and choose Honda. Reed and PC made that Honda work, Factory...
How well would Honda be doing "right now" if Reed didn't start his own team and choose Honda. Reed and PC made that Honda work, Factory Honda didn't jump on board until they seen that Reed was a title contender. Reed made that bike, that bike didn't make Reed. I think Chad deserves a lot more credit for that bike.
Aaryn234 wrote:
Agree 100% What the Honda just became the best bike out there the Year Chad started doing well on it ! Last year everyone was talking...
Agree 100%

What the Honda just became the best bike out there the Year Chad started doing well on it ! Last year everyone was talking the Suzuki up saying it was the best bike out there, so Dunge was winning in part to him being on the best bike.

Chads bike looks so good out there becaue he has it working for him, how about throwing some credit Chads way, maybe it is the fact that he has found the right people to put around him who can understand what he is saying when things dont feel right so it can be corrected.

is the 2011 Honda really leaps and bounds better than the 09 and 10 model factory race bikes, or is it Reed and his team found what it needed to work the best for Chad...
Maybe slightly, not 100% IMO.

KDUB has looked great on that bike for years, he's just not a rider willing to risk it & completely hang it out there. He and Reed are very similar in that they ride more within their limits than other top riders & they are reaping long careers as a result. IMO the only time I've seen KDUB really push the evelope in the past couple years was this years Vegas. But, Canard proved last year that Honda had the bike. He came off the 250f for a few rounds & immediately showed Honda had a great bike.

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