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1/26/2012 4:26pm
I see this happening more and more! The death of Josh should now make the AMA quit talking about shorting the motos' to 20 minutes plus two. It sure doesn't mean they won't have to work any less getting in shape. It actually should make them a bit more competitive. If you hit the wall at the 15 minute mark as many do your already cooked. No chance for recovering and just get the hell out of the way! Also it should cut down on the amount of riders that get lapped? Many of them can say " yeah! had a great race, I didn't get lapped this week!"
I've watched my grand daughter's father suffer heat exhaustion (stoke?) in Texas last year and again this year at Hangtown. I guess many people don't understand that once this happens your subject to reoccurrences with conditions that may not be as extreme as the first! What is this little girl going to do without her Daddy for the rest of her life?
IT IS NOW TIME FOR AMA TO MAKE THE CHANGE! IT'S PERFECT HALF WAY THROUGH THE SEASON AND THIS PAST WEEK OFF. Some one give Mitch a call! He owns this business anyway. He may understand that his riders are subject to the same as the others.
I've watched my grand daughter's father suffer heat exhaustion (stoke?) in Texas last year and again this year at Hangtown. I guess many people don't understand that once this happens your subject to reoccurrences with conditions that may not be as extreme as the first! What is this little girl going to do without her Daddy for the rest of her life?
IT IS NOW TIME FOR AMA TO MAKE THE CHANGE! IT'S PERFECT HALF WAY THROUGH THE SEASON AND THIS PAST WEEK OFF. Some one give Mitch a call! He owns this business anyway. He may understand that his riders are subject to the same as the others.
Pull 31-40 at the 15 minute mark.
21-30 at 20 minutes
11-20 at 30 minutes.
Let the top 10 finish the race.
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The AMA and MX Sports both need evidence of what really happened before decisions can be made.
I'm not saying that shortening motos is or isn't the answer, but we need cool clear heads to sort this out. DC was close to the Lichtle family and I have the utmost faith that DC and his team will make the right decision when the time is right.
Haven't checked the transponder scoring or lapsheets but there is a very good possibilty that someone like him could have been in 11th place at the 30 minute mark.
as tragic as this is I agree that knee jerk reactions are the wrong way to address the issue.
I mean, what about taking the kickstarters off the bikes so that if they stall they don't risk overexerting themselves?
MX is about endurance and skill.
Of course, it might get people to push a bit harder to stay in the race if they are running on that edge.
There is also the complaints about lappers. This would pretty much eliminate lappers from the field.
I'm not saying this is the best solution--just one idea. I'm definitely not a fan of shortening motos in conditions like those at Red Bud this past weekend. I'm very sorry about what happened to Josh, but the conditions just weren't that bad when you consider the history of motocross.
Personally, I think longer motos are better because riders will have to pace themselves more and sprint less. It's the sprinting that's the problem. Anyone who's done a lot of distance running will tell you it's much easier to run 18 miles staying well within your aerobic capacity rather than 10 miles near anaerobic threashold - and when the races are 35 minutes, those guys are running right at their threashold all the time. But no matter what you do, as long as riders go to the gate with the determination to push themselves to their personal limit, they're going to crash and get hurt or they're going to push their body beyond their own capacity.
It's a terrible tragedy, but there's no certain way to prevent it.
Josh was local to that area. It makes me wonder if something else wasn't happening to him...maybe another sickness, or maybe something he did prior to the race (not hydrate enough...not enough rest...who knows?) that contributed to his death. Whatever it was, it doesn't make sense, and I don't recall it being common at all.
Before we ask for rule changes, maybe we should wait and see if time produces more info that sheds light on what the contributing factors were.
Or, we can just flame on....
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I am sure trackside could build a program that would flag a rider that had slowed considerably over the period of several laps and/or was running a certain percentage slower than some other base like the average laptime of the top 5.
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Just my opinion, but straight out shortening moto's might not be the best solution. What happened to Josh is very tragic and should not have happened. Like some other guys mentioned, I remember going to Mid-Ohio in the late 70's to watch the USGP's and it was 45 +2. Hopefully, someone can suggest something that will help prevent this from ever happening again and make everyone concerned happy. Condolences to Josh's family and friends.
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