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Clutchy 5/29/2011 9:18am
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GuyB wrote:
He's not the same as Glen Helen in 2009. He's a stronger, leaner, much better-trained version of that Villopoto. You guys don't remember when RC went...
He's not the same as Glen Helen in 2009. He's a stronger, leaner, much better-trained version of that Villopoto.

You guys don't remember when RC went from being a pudgy kid to a chiseled athlete under Aldon's guidance?
So with that said then " What the hell is wrong with him "..............?

So apparently running and winning a five month long Sx series and all the training that goes along with it, wasn't enough to be in shape to race on a motocross track....?
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JCRF217 5/29/2011 9:21am
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mrquick wrote:
Canard is coming back...RV cant run with canard outdoors.
canard is back next race at high point isn't he?
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RaceFace 5/29/2011 10:45am
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jeffro503 wrote:
Well.....I'm an RV fan for sure , since he is our local guy ya know? But man.....I'll tell ya what....RD and CR are on their games...
Well.....I'm an RV fan for sure , since he is our local guy ya know? But man.....I'll tell ya what....RD and CR are on their games right now. We saw some big surprises happen this weekend as well. Cristian Craig , Millsaps , Metty , Dietrich.....all these guys can mix up the points big time. None of them are going to be easy to pass....let alone beat. EVERYONE is going to have to work their asses off.....and have a little luck on their side.

Right now though....Reed and Dungey I think are on another level.....but that could change by next weekend.
Notice how starts improve guy's results. Craig, Dietrich, Millsaps. How about Izzi in moto 1??? Oh and CR and Reed so far have had starts every moto. RV from 13th to 3rd on that track yesterday? Not shabby. We will see how either of them do with being 15th after the first lap.

I do think RV will find his stride soon and will be up there. Sort of how Canard came together with his program last year. It wasn't until after Budds Creek that TC found something and went on a tear. In the opposite way, Reed went downhill after Freestone.
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DownSouth 5/29/2011 10:48am
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mrquick wrote:
Canard is coming back...RV cant run with canard outdoors.
JCRF217 wrote:
canard is back next race at high point isn't he?
I doubt it. Trey was still on crutches at Vegas. Probably not close to riding yet, much less ready to come back and race at High Point. The latest Racer X injury report lists him out indefinitely with a broken femur.

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RaceFace 5/29/2011 10:50am
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GuyB wrote:
He's not the same as Glen Helen in 2009. He's a stronger, leaner, much better-trained version of that Villopoto. You guys don't remember when RC went...
He's not the same as Glen Helen in 2009. He's a stronger, leaner, much better-trained version of that Villopoto.

You guys don't remember when RC went from being a pudgy kid to a chiseled athlete under Aldon's guidance?
Clutchy wrote:
So with that said then " What the hell is wrong with him "..............? So apparently running and winning a five month long Sx series and...
So with that said then " What the hell is wrong with him "..............?

So apparently running and winning a five month long Sx series and all the training that goes along with it, wasn't enough to be in shape to race on a motocross track....?
Did you see how long it took Reed and Dungey to get around Pourcel and Craig in the first moto yesterday? Tough track to pass on. RV was 13th on the 1st lap of the 1st moto. He crashed in the 2nd. Only thing that was wrong with yesterday is being a little rusty still and not good enough starts. I expected him to dominate this year, but am not wondering what is wrong. I guess 2 years off from the outdoors effects riders even more than I thought it would. The heat can effect people differently. Look at Baggett moto 2. He isn't out of shape either.
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jasonv43 5/29/2011 11:24am
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Are you guys still waiting for the RV from the Des Nations at Budds Creek?

Not gonna happen.
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Ozy 5/29/2011 11:26am
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Did you see how long it took Reed and Dungey to get around Pourcel and Craig in the first moto yesterday? Tough track to pass on...
Did you see how long it took Reed and Dungey to get around Pourcel and Craig in the first moto yesterday? Tough track to pass on. RV was 13th on the 1st lap of the 1st moto. He crashed in the 2nd. Only thing that was wrong with yesterday is being a little rusty still and not good enough starts. I expected him to dominate this year, but am not wondering what is wrong. I guess 2 years off from the outdoors effects riders even more than I thought it would. The heat can effect people differently. Look at Baggett moto 2. He isn't out of shape either.
My theory about Reed and Dungey following Craig for so long is that they felt comfortable with the pace and there was still a lot of racing left so why push it so early in the moto. Remember Reed following RV and Dungey for quite a few laps in Hangtown Moto 2 last week. I think they were pacing themselves and using their brains

but again this is just my opinion
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Outsider 5/29/2011 11:40am
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jasonv43 wrote:
Are you guys still waiting for the RV from the Des Nations at Budds Creek?

Not gonna happen.
Nah... waiting for the RV from Glen Helen '09.

Gonna happen Cool
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redrider400 5/29/2011 12:19pm
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mxgoon wrote:
He looks really thin.

Not sure if its from his illness or over training but something doesnt look right.
redrider400 wrote:
Im with you. Maybe overtraining. Doesn't look the same as Glen Helen in 2009
GuyB wrote:
He's not the same as Glen Helen in 2009. He's a stronger, leaner, much better-trained version of that Villopoto. You guys don't remember when RC went...
He's not the same as Glen Helen in 2009. He's a stronger, leaner, much better-trained version of that Villopoto.

You guys don't remember when RC went from being a pudgy kid to a chiseled athlete under Aldon's guidance?
I hope you are right. I'm a Poto fan big time and I want him to lay it to those guys. Formally being chubby myself, I went through a stage where I got too skinny and was overtraining and it showed in my racing. And I was just a local guy, I can't imagine it at that level.
bents 5/29/2011 1:53pm
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The guy is still coming off a super stressful and emotional sx series and as soon as that Vegas race was over, I'm betting his immune system just shut right down. No one can blame the guy for taking his time to ramp it back to full throttle. I think we all underestimate how difficult it is to move from sx to mx, especially after winning the thing. If he could have won the title 2 or 3 rounds early he could have shifted his focus to the outdoors, but he had to stay pinned till the end. RV will be a force soon enough.
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Sherwood 5/29/2011 2:10pm
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mxgoon wrote:
He looks really thin.

Not sure if its from his illness or over training but something doesnt look right.
redrider400 wrote:
Im with you. Maybe overtraining. Doesn't look the same as Glen Helen in 2009
GuyB wrote:
He's not the same as Glen Helen in 2009. He's a stronger, leaner, much better-trained version of that Villopoto. You guys don't remember when RC went...
He's not the same as Glen Helen in 2009. He's a stronger, leaner, much better-trained version of that Villopoto.

You guys don't remember when RC went from being a pudgy kid to a chiseled athlete under Aldon's guidance?
The steroid allegation scandal?
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b2 5/29/2011 2:18pm
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rv is still not over his illness look for the real rv to be back and healthy for highpoint
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GuyB 5/29/2011 2:32pm
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redrider400 wrote:
Im with you. Maybe overtraining. Doesn't look the same as Glen Helen in 2009
GuyB wrote:
He's not the same as Glen Helen in 2009. He's a stronger, leaner, much better-trained version of that Villopoto. You guys don't remember when RC went...
He's not the same as Glen Helen in 2009. He's a stronger, leaner, much better-trained version of that Villopoto.

You guys don't remember when RC went from being a pudgy kid to a chiseled athlete under Aldon's guidance?
Sherwood wrote:
The steroid allegation scandal?
What steroid allegation scandal?

Other than a few anonymous attention-seekers on the web, I've never seen one.

Or are you one of those attention-seekers?
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kardy 5/29/2011 6:38pm
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RV's third outdoor race on a 450 ever, coming off illness (and racing in brutal conditions in Texas didn't help that), getting bad starts, still third in points after 2 rounds... he'll be fine.

Canard was hobbling around on crutches still looking broken at Hangtown last week, he seems a ways off from being even remotely competitive. I thought I heard somebody say MAYBE back by Lakewood...
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EvanR127 5/29/2011 6:43pm
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^ Yes he will be fine but he won't be the champion this summer...
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kardy 5/29/2011 6:45pm
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Well that's why they have the races now isn't it?
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GIwasB4 5/29/2011 6:47pm
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Wait until next year!
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Outsider 5/29/2011 6:54pm
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EvanR127 wrote:
^ Yes he will be fine but he won't be the champion this summer...
Can we stickie this thread?

We won't have to "wait until next year"... Smile

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`ol Ger 5/29/2011 8:02pm
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GuyB wrote:
What steroid allegation scandal?

Other than a few anonymous attention-seekers on the web, I've never seen one.

Or are you one of those attention-seekers?
In-deed.
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fader418 5/31/2011 6:30am
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EvanR127 wrote:
^ Yes he will be fine but he won't be the champion this summer...
Outsider wrote:
Can we stickie this thread?

We won't have to "wait until next year"... Smile
Exactly Outsider.......some people are so clueless.......too think that RV wont or cant be champ by the end of the series is just redonkulous! Sure I said he will go 24-0, 22-2, well thats not gonna happen, but once RV shows up ready its gonna be a long summer for everyone else........IF HE GETS A START.......but if the RV from Glen Helen 09 shows up, he could start in last and still win........
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BobbyM 5/31/2011 8:17am
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GIwasB4 wrote:
Since the wheels fell off the #7 band wagon, you can likely catch the RVBW, it's moving slow enough.
lmao

He's not the same as Glen Helen in 2009. He's a stronger, leaner, much better-trained version of that Villopoto.

You guys don't remember when RC went from being a pudgy kid to a chiseled athlete under Aldon's guidance?
I know it's tempting to click submit without thinking first, but give it a try. Remember, half as much, twice as good.



I mentioned to my Dad in the pre-race interviews that Poto looked sick. Pasty, thin, drawn. JMO

which one of you is lying?


guyb, over training is a huge problem in mx. burned out and faded away happens all the time.

the fact is RV is NOT happy with where he's at...he wants to win and SHOULD BE winning right now but he isn't. something is amiss and he's pissed about it.
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karnivool 5/31/2011 10:09am
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STICKMAN wrote:
Maybe Poto is suffering from "message board syndrome". Like Stewy in sx, coming in riding the wave of fan boys making outrages claims of superiority, believing...
Maybe Poto is suffering from "message board syndrome".
Like Stewy in sx, coming in riding the wave of fan boys making outrages claims of superiority, believing they have everybody covered in their "specialist field", and underestimating the competition to the degree we have witnessed and are witnessing?
I've read so many times over a number of boards that Bubba's going to clean up in sx and poto's going to do the same outdoors.
There are too many variables in racing to simply make some of the predictions that have been made and will continue to be made without any thought other than what your favorite riders nuts taste like.
I'm sure that anything can happen, and Poto's smarter than SOME of his fans and will only get stronger.Smile
as a stewart fan this is strange, but i almost agree...

hopefully these guys can stay off these boards, but as a human it would be nearly impossible...

rv looks sick, stewart can't figure out his place in this sport...and doesn't realize that the longer you sit on ur ass in this sport, the closer you are to becoming obsolete.
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TDeath21 5/31/2011 10:51am
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I don't see any single rider dominating this year. If they do, then they deserve the championship. This is why I think it'll be so hard for Dungey to make up all those points on Reed. The remaining rounds in the series is still longer than the supercross series though so there's plenty of time.
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BobbyM 5/31/2011 11:34am
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GuyB wrote:
He's not the same as Glen Helen in 2009. He's a stronger, leaner, much better-trained version of that Villopoto. You guys don't remember when RC went...
He's not the same as Glen Helen in 2009. He's a stronger, leaner, much better-trained version of that Villopoto.

You guys don't remember when RC went from being a pudgy kid to a chiseled athlete under Aldon's guidance?
Sherwood wrote:
The steroid allegation scandal?
GuyB wrote:
What steroid allegation scandal?

Other than a few anonymous attention-seekers on the web, I've never seen one.

Or are you one of those attention-seekers?
guyb...you crack me up man.

i know a few non attention seekers rather well and they all have literally said to my face that RC did in fact do the juice...ain't no thang man. but just as with the cheating lance armstrong you don't bike with a bicycle racer and NOT do the juice...do you?

wasn't aldon with dungey for a spell? dungey now trains on his own...smart kid.

if some schmuck like me knows more about the inside than you we have a problem. in a way that is understandable because you have more credibility than i do when it comes to this stuff so it would really suck if you got some not so good info on some rider/s.
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BobbyM 5/31/2011 11:40am
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Motocross83 wrote:
Unfortunately flu can easily last 2 weeks, sometimes 3 on the way to 4. If it's bad (remember real flu can kill people) then he simply...
Unfortunately flu can easily last 2 weeks, sometimes 3 on the way to 4. If it's bad (remember real flu can kill people) then he simply won't be able to train. And then of course assuming he's over it, which by now he probably is - even once the virus is dead it can take a surprising amount of time for your body to recover it's previous condition (in rare cases the effects can go on for years). It may be a while before RV can get anywhere near his peak performance. Ideally a rest would be in order but there's no time for that, so he must slog on and make of it what he can......

Personally I think by round 4 or 5 he'll be knocking out moto wins. But it's hardly an ideal start for him, no two ways about it.
the shit i had which was respiratory related lasted 5 to 6 weeks and it sucked. many people from around here were hit the same way so it is perfectly understood if this is what has grabbed rv by the nuts...it sucks for sure.
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is going to be walking it on these guys by mid season.Shocked Wink


P
Like I said...............


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jeffro503 wrote:
Well.....I'm an RV fan for sure , since he is our local guy ya know? But man.....I'll tell ya what....RD and CR are on their games...
Well.....I'm an RV fan for sure , since he is our local guy ya know? But man.....I'll tell ya what....RD and CR are on their games right now. We saw some big surprises happen this weekend as well. Cristian Craig , Millsaps , Metty , Dietrich.....all these guys can mix up the points big time. None of them are going to be easy to pass....let alone beat. EVERYONE is going to have to work their asses off.....and have a little luck on their side.

Right now though....Reed and Dungey I think are on another level.....but that could change by next weekend.
it sure changed. lol
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Everybodys got a guy that knows so and so has done some form of PED...
Yet, they all must be nut-less since not one of them have stepped forward with any legitimate proof.
Let us all remember prior to the MXdN RC himself said he couldn't wait for the drug test to shut everyone up.
Not to mention by todays lack of morals.... since it's not in the rule book, its not cheating....right?
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RV gapped Dungey by 10 seonds without much effort at about the 1/2 way mark of the first moto and finished over a minute in front of Chad Reed on a dry track .
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MXR wrote:
RV gapped Dungey by 10 seonds without much effort at about the 1/2 way mark of the first moto and finished over a minute in front...
RV gapped Dungey by 10 seonds without much effort at about the 1/2 way mark of the first moto and finished over a minute in front of Chad Reed on a dry track .
Selective memory is a beautiful thing.

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