What I saw, Freestone.

flarider wrote:

And yeah, 7th in SX in the East, he sux

GuyB wrote:

According to the team, with the difference in temps between the first and second motos (93 vs. 100), the fuel boiled on Dungey's bike. They said...

According to the team, with the difference in temps between the first and second motos (93 vs. 100), the fuel boiled on Dungey's bike. They said he had plenty left after the end of the first moto.

Chad said after his second moto crash, his bike got hot and he realized his was doing the same, which is part of the reason he backed it down (he also said he wasn't comfortable with the early pace).

WhKnuckle wrote:

That sounds logical. If the fuel boils, the fuel pump won't make any pressure to the injectors and the bike will act like it ran out...

That sounds logical. If the fuel boils, the fuel pump won't make any pressure to the injectors and the bike will act like it ran out of gas.

BTW, people were talking about it being hot - it was just a normal early summer day to the locals. No doubt it's a bitch to guys who aren't used to it.

ns503 wrote:

I just got in after being out all day - missed the whole thing. Ran out of gas? With 2 laps still left to run? Seriously...

I just got in after being out all day - missed the whole thing.

Ran out of gas? With 2 laps still left to run? Seriously?

Did anyone else run out of gas?

That prompts a 'wow', can't help myself.

And I was really looking to see RV running more towards the front this weekend - is he still sick?

steedmills wrote:

Metcalfe different fuel tank?!

wreckitrandy wrote:

Metcalfe,,,, different throttle position?

RaceFace wrote:

Maybe fuel boiling is just the PR to keep the heat (no pun intended) off the bike. I think it seemed more like a failure, maybe...

Maybe fuel boiling is just the PR to keep the heat (no pun intended) off the bike. I think it seemed more like a failure, maybe in the fuel injection system. It didn't seem to bog and sputter like it was getting low on gas, or getting improper fuel amounts. It just seemed like when it died it died. Of course, that is watching on TV. Certainly it may have been sputtering before the cameras went to him.

flarider wrote:

And yeah, 7th in SX in the East, he sux

RaceFace wrote:

Maybe fuel boiling is just the PR to keep the heat (no pun intended) off the bike. I think it seemed more like a failure, maybe...

Maybe fuel boiling is just the PR to keep the heat (no pun intended) off the bike. I think it seemed more like a failure, maybe in the fuel injection system. It didn't seem to bog and sputter like it was getting low on gas, or getting improper fuel amounts. It just seemed like when it died it died. Of course, that is watching on TV. Certainly it may have been sputtering before the cameras went to him.

Bob693 wrote:

I was standing in the corner before his bike died and I didn't hear anything wrong. He just slowed going up the face of that jump...

I was standing in the corner before his bike died and I didn't hear anything wrong. He just slowed going up the face of that jump, which made us think someone was down on the other side, but then he didn't come out of the other side. We walked to the side of the jump to see him at the bottom trying to start it. So bummed for him, he was on it!

RaceFace wrote:

Maybe fuel boiling is just the PR to keep the heat (no pun intended) off the bike. I think it seemed more like a failure, maybe...

Maybe fuel boiling is just the PR to keep the heat (no pun intended) off the bike. I think it seemed more like a failure, maybe in the fuel injection system. It didn't seem to bog and sputter like it was getting low on gas, or getting improper fuel amounts. It just seemed like when it died it died. Of course, that is watching on TV. Certainly it may have been sputtering before the cameras went to him.

Bob693 wrote:

I was standing in the corner before his bike died and I didn't hear anything wrong. He just slowed going up the face of that jump...

I was standing in the corner before his bike died and I didn't hear anything wrong. He just slowed going up the face of that jump, which made us think someone was down on the other side, but then he didn't come out of the other side. We walked to the side of the jump to see him at the bottom trying to start it. So bummed for him, he was on it!

RaceFace wrote:

That's pretty much what TV showed. We've seen guys run out if gas and the bike will cut in and out before it dies. I've never...

That's pretty much what TV showed. We've seen guys run out if gas and the bike will cut in and out before it dies. I've never seen the effects of fuel boiling on fuel injection, but would asssume that varying amounts of fuel will still get injected and the bike would cut in and out. Another thought, after being stopped for a minute or more like Dungey was, shouldn't the fuel stop boiling and allow the bike to fire up?

Bob693 wrote:

I was standing in the corner before his bike died and I didn't hear anything wrong. He just slowed going up the face of that jump...

I was standing in the corner before his bike died and I didn't hear anything wrong. He just slowed going up the face of that jump, which made us think someone was down on the other side, but then he didn't come out of the other side. We walked to the side of the jump to see him at the bottom trying to start it. So bummed for him, he was on it!

RaceFace wrote:

That's pretty much what TV showed. We've seen guys run out if gas and the bike will cut in and out before it dies. I've never...

That's pretty much what TV showed. We've seen guys run out if gas and the bike will cut in and out before it dies. I've never seen the effects of fuel boiling on fuel injection, but would asssume that varying amounts of fuel will still get injected and the bike would cut in and out. Another thought, after being stopped for a minute or more like Dungey was, shouldn't the fuel stop boiling and allow the bike to fire up?

DownSouth wrote:

This logic is based off of water but when fuel boils would the vapors escape out of the gas cap vent tube. If it boils long...

This logic is based off of water but when fuel boils would the vapors escape out of the gas cap vent tube. If it boils long enough would you not have enough fuel to finish? I heard on carbureted bikes if fuel boiled they would run like crap but with fuel injection does it let the bike still run normally while fuels boils?

Bob693 wrote:

I was standing in the corner before his bike died and I didn't hear anything wrong. He just slowed going up the face of that jump...

I was standing in the corner before his bike died and I didn't hear anything wrong. He just slowed going up the face of that jump, which made us think someone was down on the other side, but then he didn't come out of the other side. We walked to the side of the jump to see him at the bottom trying to start it. So bummed for him, he was on it!

flarider wrote:

No one else that I am aware of ran out of fuel

RaceFace wrote:

That's pretty much what TV showed. We've seen guys run out if gas and the bike will cut in and out before it dies. I've never...

That's pretty much what TV showed. We've seen guys run out if gas and the bike will cut in and out before it dies. I've never seen the effects of fuel boiling on fuel injection, but would asssume that varying amounts of fuel will still get injected and the bike would cut in and out. Another thought, after being stopped for a minute or more like Dungey was, shouldn't the fuel stop boiling and allow the bike to fire up?

Bob693 wrote:

I was standing in the corner before his bike died and I didn't hear anything wrong. He just slowed going up the face of that jump...

I was standing in the corner before his bike died and I didn't hear anything wrong. He just slowed going up the face of that jump, which made us think someone was down on the other side, but then he didn't come out of the other side. We walked to the side of the jump to see him at the bottom trying to start it. So bummed for him, he was on it!

RaceFace wrote:

That's pretty much what TV showed. We've seen guys run out if gas and the bike will cut in and out before it dies. I've never...

That's pretty much what TV showed. We've seen guys run out if gas and the bike will cut in and out before it dies. I've never seen the effects of fuel boiling on fuel injection, but would asssume that varying amounts of fuel will still get injected and the bike would cut in and out. Another thought, after being stopped for a minute or more like Dungey was, shouldn't the fuel stop boiling and allow the bike to fire up?

DownSouth wrote:

This logic is based off of water but when fuel boils would the vapors escape out of the gas cap vent tube. If it boils long...

This logic is based off of water but when fuel boils would the vapors escape out of the gas cap vent tube. If it boils long enough would you not have enough fuel to finish? I heard on carbureted bikes if fuel boiled they would run like crap but with fuel injection does it let the bike still run normally while fuels boils?

BobbyM wrote:

who was the highest finishing EI user?

flarider wrote:

Ok, and to me it looked like RD ran out, because you could see the bike surging and slowing, like an engine running out of fuel.

flarider wrote:

Racer92 and Txmxer and kawboy14 and DC Dungy owned moto two until he apparently ran out of gas, that's what it looked like and word in...

Racer92 and Txmxer and kawboy14 and DC

Dungy owned moto two until he apparently ran out of gas, that's what it looked like and word in the pits were.
Musquin ate Barcia's rear tire and that shit had to hurt, a compound thumb fracture must also hurt like a MOFO.
A clap of hands for Kyle Chisholm who looked like he broke his wrist or arm for coming out for moto 2.
I have no idea what Pourcel's issue is, and I don't think anyone else does either.
Wilson ain't a quitter
Barcia ain't a quitter.
Mookie needs to find what he lost
RV needs to get better starts

DC gave me his input on the two red plates, and I do understand their point, that the series isn't over so tie break by moto or overall is not warranted, therefore there are two "co-points leaders" I get it, still don't care for it, but I get it.

MX Sports and Tony Miller did a great job. Beautiful facility and a nice track. One minor complaint, do not allow people to set up EZ-Ups at the fence trackside, it blocks the view for everyone else.

BobbyM wrote:

who was the highest finishing EI user?

flarider wrote:

I am not at liberty to say

GuyB wrote:

According to the team, with the difference in temps between the first and second motos (93 vs. 100), the fuel boiled on Dungey's bike. They said...

According to the team, with the difference in temps between the first and second motos (93 vs. 100), the fuel boiled on Dungey's bike. They said he had plenty left after the end of the first moto.

Chad said after his second moto crash, his bike got hot and he realized his was doing the same, which is part of the reason he backed it down (he also said he wasn't comfortable with the early pace).

TriRacer27 wrote:

Great event, though it went from really fun to seriously bad when I didn't see Dungey come by on the last lap and then turn around...

Great event, though it went from really fun to seriously bad when I didn't see Dungey come by on the last lap and then turn around to see him pushing his bike.

Someone should've grabbed their cooler and thrown the ice on the bike to cool it down, haha. He'll come back from it strong though. He started riding better in supercross after his chain came off, so we might see an even more dominant Dungey from here on out. And he's only 9 points behind 2nd place Villo so if anything happens to Chad he's right back in it.

Overall it was a fun race. From where I was standing:

Dungey was riding really well. I mean, really well in that second moto. Super smooth even through the roughest parts.

So was Reed.

Track got very rough but they added too much sand over the years. Liked it better before when it was big square edge bumps instead of rollers.

Wilson and Milsaps have some big balls for blitzing the sand wall jump. Hard to explain how fast they were hitting it and the "kicker" bump before it was tiny.

Pourcel was just cruising out there, both motos. I know he had a mechanical in the second but both motos I saw him cruising before pulling off. Really disappointing.

Tomac is either riding conservatively or out of shape compared to the PC boys. Maybe training in Colorado isn't an advantage in motocross like it is in mountain biking. Everyone kind of assumes he will be in great shape because of his dad but he didn't look nearly as aggressive as Tyla or Dean towards the end of the motos.

Mookie is really out of shape. He was cruising through the rough stuff towards the end too.

The Star Racing guys were doing very well out there, looked very fast and strong.

Baggett was hurting. In that second moto guys were passing him who had no business passing him.

Les Smith was doing a great job on his first ride for JGR until the last lap when I guess he either made a mistake from being tired or got heat exhaustion and crashed. He looked really dazed as he was driven off.

Props to Christian Craig on a great ride in the 1st moto. Looked great for his 2nd pro national ever.

What's up with so many riders having their pants sag way down? Thought Thor had fixed that issue.

Those rollers before the finish have gotten huge and keep getting bigger every year. It was crazy seeing how Dungey would come through there like nothing and then see Windham bounce off of each one like a B rider in comparison.



Oh and GuyB has teleportation capabilities. I was walking around taking pictures and about 4 times in a row he was in front of me. I would take a picture from one side of the fence and he would be in front of me, so I would turn around and take some from the opposite side and bam, he would already be there!

bigcat wrote:

Hey Dave, nice meeting you at the Parts Unlimited tent for lunch.
Thanks for the stickers.

flarider wrote:

Yes, it was, forgot to mention that