What is your guys opinion on the difference between determination and heart?

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My friends and I had a short arguement about it. In my opinion determination is having the drive to wake up in the morning and train, rain or dry, and work as hard as you can for the weekend, and heart is the determination you have while your racing (and training). Heart is when you crash and you have no visor and your half a lap behind but your still pushing your hardest. My friends think Heart is how hard you train. What's your thoughts on this?
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mxb2 5/16/2011 12:48pm
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Dedication for training and heart when the times get tough Your welcome LOL!
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rc4187 5/16/2011 12:53pm
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heart pumps blood to your body.

determination is focus on a goal no matter the hardship.
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de·ter·mi·na·tion
   [dih-tur-muh-ney-shuhn]
–noun
1.
the act of coming to a decision or of fixing or settling a purpose.

heart
   [hahrt]
–noun
1.
Anatomy . a hollow, pumplike organ of blood circulation, composed mainly of rhythmically contractile smooth muscle, located in the chest between the lungs and slightly to the left and consisting of four chambers: a right atrium that receives blood returning from the body via the superior and inferior vena cavae, a right ventricle that pumps the blood through the pulmonary artery to the lungs for oxygenation, a left atrium that receives the oxygenated blood via the pulmonary veins and passes it through the mitral valve, and a left ventricle that pumps the oxygenated blood, via the aorta, throughout the body.
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DrSweden 5/16/2011 1:28pm
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I think the problem is that "heart" is undefined and could for some be the same as determination while it means something else for others. Basically you will newer get an straight answer.

Maybe I would use heart as in RC racing everything like Nats, SX and mxDn and while doing it went all in and therefore also determination, while Stewart and MC maybe will be the more determination kind of guy for me since they seems/seemed to lack the heart for the sport in general but showed amazing determination in the SX.

Not saying that's a fact, but again it's personal and therefore arbitrary when it comes to heart.

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Ddavis 5/16/2011 1:33pm
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Personally I believe I have heart when it comes to racing. I never give up even when I feel like I'm going to die! I lack determination when it refers to training, but when I do train, I go all the way. I have heart while I train and race but not determination, and that's why the arguement stirred up. They believe I have no heart but I think I have heart but not the determination I need. Just wanted to see your guys thoughts on it.
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mxb2 5/16/2011 1:34pm
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IMO, you need both to be a good mx er!
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FIREfish148 5/16/2011 1:39pm
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Its not just one or the other its both.
So you're saying it takes just pure determination to get up and train in the morning, and no heart while you're doing it?
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who cares, you'll never have either tool!
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Ddavis wrote:
My friends and I had a short arguement about it. In my opinion determination is having the drive to wake up in the morning and train...
My friends and I had a short arguement about it. In my opinion determination is having the drive to wake up in the morning and train, rain or dry, and work as hard as you can for the weekend, and heart is the determination you have while your racing (and training). Heart is when you crash and you have no visor and your half a lap behind but your still pushing your hardest. My friends think Heart is how hard you train. What's your thoughts on this?
when i was 17 me and my friends argued whether we were going to Taco Bell or Dennys after smoking a J on the football field. not heart and determination.
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mxb2 5/16/2011 3:03pm
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Ddavis wrote:
My friends and I had a short arguement about it. In my opinion determination is having the drive to wake up in the morning and train...
My friends and I had a short arguement about it. In my opinion determination is having the drive to wake up in the morning and train, rain or dry, and work as hard as you can for the weekend, and heart is the determination you have while your racing (and training). Heart is when you crash and you have no visor and your half a lap behind but your still pushing your hardest. My friends think Heart is how hard you train. What's your thoughts on this?
peelout wrote:
when i was 17 me and my friends argued whether we were going to Taco Bell or Dennys after smoking a J on the football field...
when i was 17 me and my friends argued whether we were going to Taco Bell or Dennys after smoking a J on the football field. not heart and determination.
What tastes better after the J ? LOL!
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peelout 5/16/2011 3:21pm
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mxb2 wrote:
What tastes better after the J ? LOL!
Denny's usually won, can't beat the Grand Slam
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Hank_Thrill 5/16/2011 3:36pm
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I'd say you hit the nail on the head (heart = in the moment; determination = throughout the week).

Awesome definitions!
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englishman 5/16/2011 3:46pm
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Ddavis wrote:
Personally I believe I have heart when it comes to racing. I never give up even when I feel like I'm going to die! I lack...
Personally I believe I have heart when it comes to racing. I never give up even when I feel like I'm going to die! I lack determination when it refers to training, but when I do train, I go all the way. I have heart while I train and race but not determination, and that's why the arguement stirred up. They believe I have no heart but I think I have heart but not the determination I need. Just wanted to see your guys thoughts on it.
Sounds like you are a lazy bastard.
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TDeath21 5/16/2011 4:43pm
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Hank_Thrill wrote:
I'd say you hit the nail on the head (heart = in the moment; determination = throughout the week).

Awesome definitions!
x2. Canard has major heart. Got caught from a ways back and passed twice this year then came back to win. That's so hard to do.
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sxf138 5/16/2011 5:29pm
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I see them as synonyms to eachother IMO.

I look at riding and training as two factors: Dedication, and Commitment.
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drummer dude 5/16/2011 5:39pm
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determination is something you acheive. heart is something that comes from deep inside yourself.
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mx400bee 5/16/2011 6:53pm
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Determination is never ever giving up. Heart is putting everything you have into what you`re trying to accomplish.
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mcphilly 5/16/2011 7:07pm
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same thing

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Lefty Right 5/17/2011 3:56pm
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moto48 wrote:
who cares, you'll never have either tool!
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my opinion is this thread is extremely gay.
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Randy Olson 5/17/2011 9:49pm
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Determination is heart over time.

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