Children, after divorce.

4/18/2011 9:58am
sometimes if the child(ren) go live with one parent. that one parent talks shit on the 'left out' parent so much, the child is misled and told he's an asshole, deadbeat, etc. and they don't want to visit. Not saying this is what happened, but it happened to my neighbor. His x talked so much shit his child was basically brainwashed into thinking her dad was a jackass and never visited. oh..she visited when it was HER birthday or event cause she would get presents.
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5/11/2011 9:35am
Let me clarify. Jim has been ordered child support over a year ago, which he has not paid a dime of. $475 for 3 kids is NOT bad at all. He also has visitation, he can see them whenever, however long he wants but hasn't made a single effort to see them. Anytime he has seen them it's because I drove from OK to NM. I cannot afford that on a regular basis though. He has my number and can call them at anytime but he never does. He will send me an occasional text asking me to tell them that he loves and misses them, which I gladly do for him. He also sends me text messages that say, "Fuck you and fuck the kids! I want nothing to do with them from now on." His next text said. "Get a job and a life, dumb bitch! McDonalds is always hiring." However, he did send me Happy Mother's Day wishes. He told me he would gladly sign papers to waive his righs if it meant he would never have to deal with me again. It's my opinion that he feels if he waives his rights he will not have to pay child support. The same support he has not paid anyway. I have never gone after him for it. In a monet of weakness I broke down and told him I need help. He buys new cars, clothes and goes to Vegas etc al the time, we are eating ramen and I have sold all of my jewelry and family heirlooms in order to feed the kids. I try not complain but it sounds loike I am right now. His Fuck you texts stemmed from the fact that I told him (as a heads up) that when I move to NM, I will need to apply for public assistance and they are probably going to make me go after him for child support before they help me.
I wasn't trying to be a bitch, I was just letting him know, and also that they may change the amount to be almost double what he has been ordered to pay.
I'm not trying to slander him, I just want to say that there three sides to every story,m I'm sure you've heard his, this is mine and then there's the truth somewhere on between.

I'm not trying to make my fiance their new daddy. He lives in NM as well as Jim but he still manages to call them everyday and night, he tells them in person that heloves and misses them and he does what he can to see them and spend time with them, not just me, them too. I never talk bad about Jim to the kids, I would never do that. My man, btw is one of my best friend's from whom I've known since I was 14. Jim had once referred to him as gay because we had alwayd been friends and my guy had never tried to get in my pants. Who's gay now, Jim? He also gave Jim a job when Jim was down and out(which Jim lost due to excessive violence) My guy is not a bad guy to know, he is a decent man.

Did he tell you about walking into the strip club and finding his 23 year old daughter dancing there? I had known for monthsand he had no clue. He lives in the same town as her and they never talk, yet I talk to her daily and she calls me mom.....yet I'm the witch. Thats' cool. 'll take it because you can't put a price on freedom.

Jim likes to play the victim. We all do sometimes.
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5/11/2011 9:46am
I also realize that Jim will now call me a stalker and complain to GuyB so I am sorry if this ends up in the dungeon. That wasn't my intent but I see him constantly posting that I am keeping the kids from him and how much he misses them and then he gets a lot of sympathy and that's fine, but I am just stating my case, that's all.

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5/11/2011 10:11am Edited Date/Time 5/11/2011 10:38am
Cool, I hate dead beat dad's that never do anything to support their kid's.All states should do this.
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5/11/2011 10:49am
I know they will because they did that to him with his first daughter. He owed over 50,000 in arrears. The first thing they did was revoke his DL, which I know he will need because he is a car salesman there now. I knew they would be enforcing this and was just trying to give him a heads up and not make him think I was suddenly attacking him for money out of the blue.
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5/11/2011 10:50am
I am in no way saying Mutt doesn't love his kids. I know he does. He's just had a funny way of showing it lately.
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5/11/2011 10:53am
sometimes if the child(ren) go live with one parent. that one parent talks shit on the 'left out' parent so much, the child is misled and...
sometimes if the child(ren) go live with one parent. that one parent talks shit on the 'left out' parent so much, the child is misled and told he's an asshole, deadbeat, etc. and they don't want to visit. Not saying this is what happened, but it happened to my neighbor. His x talked so much shit his child was basically brainwashed into thinking her dad was a jackass and never visited. oh..she visited when it was HER birthday or event cause she would get presents.
I understand this happens all the time, my mom did it and I grew to resent her very much as a result. I swore I would never do that to our kids and I haven't. In fact when the kids give me their opinion of him I make it a point to tell them that what they're saying isn't nice and that he loves them and that they will need to work out any anger they have towards him without any hate if possible. I'm just trying to raise three healthy, happy kids and it is not easy.
5/11/2011 11:01am
Wow. Just wow. All of a sudden, I am SOOOOO thankful for my awesome wife. And, I will keep trying to be a good husband. Im sure not a perfect dad or husband, but they know I try to be.

Men, tell your kids you love them LOTS AND OFTEN... and your wifey too.

There are definately alot of selfish people on here. I can see why a few of these marriages failed. Whenever I start to get selfish, and I do alot... things get rocky. I think most of the time we take spouces for granted. Being a parent and a spouce is a wayyyy bigger job than I ever imagined it to be.

Good luck to you that have divorced. I came from divorced parents. Man, did they act like retards at times. Some stuff still bothers me about it. Oh well... I guess maybe it was better than them staying together. Just dont forget... you kids are watching; you are the adults; and you can NEVER hold them accountable for something you couldnt hold yourself accountable for. Thats the facts.

As for wives sleeping around... thats a toughy. They do it for a reason though, just as the guys do. Something was missing. The challenge always is providing what is missing, or knowing it before its a problem.

Man, its not easy staying married or raising kids. If Id have known then.... lol
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5/11/2011 11:04am
Wow. Just wow. All of a sudden, I am SOOOOO thankful for my awesome wife. And, I will keep trying to be a good husband. Im...
Wow. Just wow. All of a sudden, I am SOOOOO thankful for my awesome wife. And, I will keep trying to be a good husband. Im sure not a perfect dad or husband, but they know I try to be.

Men, tell your kids you love them LOTS AND OFTEN... and your wifey too.

There are definately alot of selfish people on here. I can see why a few of these marriages failed. Whenever I start to get selfish, and I do alot... things get rocky. I think most of the time we take spouces for granted. Being a parent and a spouce is a wayyyy bigger job than I ever imagined it to be.

Good luck to you that have divorced. I came from divorced parents. Man, did they act like retards at times. Some stuff still bothers me about it. Oh well... I guess maybe it was better than them staying together. Just dont forget... you kids are watching; you are the adults; and you can NEVER hold them accountable for something you couldnt hold yourself accountable for. Thats the facts.

As for wives sleeping around... thats a toughy. They do it for a reason though, just as the guys do. Something was missing. The challenge always is providing what is missing, or knowing it before its a problem.

Man, its not easy staying married or raising kids. If Id have known then.... lol
Well said~
5/11/2011 11:08am
Not sure a motocross internet message board is the best place to air this stuff out,
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5/11/2011 11:13am
Of course not, that's why most people do it on fb or Twitter. Ha!
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5/11/2011 11:24am
Not sure a motocross internet message board is the best place to air this stuff out,
Agreed. Maybe these people need to spend more time talking to each other and working it out than shitting on each other on a public forum...for the sake of their kids. 23 and dancing in a strip club....I'd slit my throat if I was the dad responsible for that!
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5/11/2011 12:05pm Edited Date/Time 5/11/2011 12:14pm
I think this is a great place to air it out.

Having been a product of divorce and having been divorced myself, there is absolutely no excuse for a man not taking care of his kids both emotionally and financially.

Good on ya' for picking up the pieces when a man tucked his tail, Pixie!

I watched my mom struggle and sacrifice for years to put food on the table and a roof over our heads. My old man complained about the money he sent almost every time I saw him. Yet he had a Porsche Turbo and two BMWs in his giant home in the hills of Orange County. I worked on my mom's car at 13 to get her to work. I rode my bike to the utility place to pay for the 24 hr electricity shut off notice with my own money.

That stuff sticks with a child their entire life. It's unfortunate for a child to realize years later that their father is not only a coward, but a giant emotional pussy. He was the one that bailed too...
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5/11/2011 12:34pm
You know guys, I hate to drop a subject like this on you, and its probably gonna be pretty long, but it's gonna be like therapy...
You know guys, I hate to drop a subject like this on you, and its probably gonna be pretty long, but it's gonna be like therapy for me.

My first wife and I divorced May 5th, 2000. That is the date we went to court, and the judge stared us down and told us that we were not to enter into a marriage with anyone other than each other, for 6 months from that date. I saw my wife twitch akwardly out of the corner of my eye.
After court I asked her if she wanted to go to Sonic and get an ice cream together one last time. While we were sitting there, I said "You and James are gonna go get married tomorrow, aren't ya?"

"Yes."

Now, a little background on James and my ex. After we had been married for about 6 years, with her doing little to help out financially other than an occasional baby sitting job, she finally got a job at the new manufacturing plant. I was shocked to find out that she actually seemed to enjoy it.

After a short time a long time friend came over and told me that he needed to tell me something. "I heard from a very good source that Amy was seen outside work kissing some guy.

"Oh bullshit!" "No dude, I'm serious." "Well, fuck em."

So the next time I got a chance I asked Amy about it. Of course she denied, and in typical fashion tried to demand that I tell her who said such a thing. I refused.

The story wasnt bullshit, Amy fooled around with James for some time, and then once I started to catch on, I nailed her best friend from high school to get even.

She had James spending the night two days after I moved out, with my 7 year old daughter in the house.

So, on May 6th, 2000 they do in fact go one state over and get married.

Of course it was no time before Amy had a screaming fit over the phone because she wanted to enroll my daughter in school with her new last name. Over my dead fuckin' body that was gonna happen. She tried to say she didn't need my consent and was only asking to be nice. I told her that if the school allowed her to do that, I would own that school. She told me what a worthless piece of shit I was, and hung up on me.

Im getting bored with typing, so Im gonna fast forward to the present. My daughter just turned 18. I have never missed a child support payment (though I was called a piece of shit father for not paying until the 5th of the month once.

My daughter hasn't stayed the night with me since, around 2003. They live too far away and she doesn't want to miss church. I have lived in my current home for over 6 years. She has been here twice. They did live about an hr away, now its 2 hrs away.

I have to read my daughters facebook updates and see that she is "at home with Amy ***** and 2 other people" or "at 'this place' with James ***** and one other person".

Today I was reading a couple of her "Notes" on there. Survey type deals. When it asked for her parents middle names, she listed Deann and whatever his is, but it wasn't Ray, which is mine.

When one asked where she would like to go, she said "to such and such (I forget the name) stadium (it's where their favorite baseball team plays) with my parents.

A month ago I learned that she wasnt going to Corpus Christy on spring break like I was told only days before, the went to Branson instead. Oh yeah, I read it on a facebood status. I was never informed.

Once she went to Mexico on a trip and I had no knowledge of it until months later.

I know, I should keep in touch better but when I call or text she always is busy, and she never calls me unless she needs something.

One year, year before last I think, she didn't even say Happy Birthday.

When I go see her though, like I did 2 days before her birthday, she always tears up when I have to leave, which means I always have a small cry on the way home also.

Divorce is such a brutal thing. She was daddy's little girl, and now she is just my DNA but apparently somebody elses kid. Why do step parents move in and think they need to run the show? My stepdad did the same type of stuff with my little brother. Amy hated him for the hell that it put my dad thru.

Oh yeah, "James" has been a preacher for about 5 years now. How the hell does that even happen?
Moose I feel for you and all, but how about Children of Parents who stayed together cause of the kids but really should have gotten divorced???? Seriously, I got grief from family and friends when I got divorced, my kids were 2 & 7, they are now 23 & 18, they are much happier and I am glad I did what I did, staying together wasn't in the books and he made me a person I didn't like at all. My kids are happy well adjusted and know what a healthy relationship is because they didn't see a shitty one growing up. We struggled financially for sure, but all three of us (my kids and I) wouldn't trade our lives for nothing. You will be OK I promise.

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5/11/2011 12:40pm
Not sure a motocross internet message board is the best place to air this stuff out,
No, but it would be a GREAT place to air what's in her signature out!!!! Just sayin'....
5/11/2011 1:02pm Edited Date/Time 5/11/2011 1:03pm
Thanks Sondra. That's real sweet, and you are right. I can't imagine what life would have been like trying to stay with her.




Hicks is right about one thing.... I wanna see those bad boys!
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5/11/2011 1:09pm
Thanks dirthead~

Hey Huck you goober. =)

No you don't....seriously.
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5/11/2011 1:58pm
Pixie wrote:
Thanks dirthead~

Hey Huck you goober. =)

No you don't....seriously.
My goober..huh?
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It's ok huck, we know you are used to getting denied.
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5/11/2011 2:17pm
Phlapjax wrote:
It's ok huck, we know you are used to getting denied.
Who said I was denied?

Emails are a wonderful invention.....
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came from a divorced family in the late 60's.move to s fla with my dad never finished hh..been working ever since..it was hard on me personaly.
been married for 30 years after knowing my wife for 1 week..lol, 4 kids ..won't dare do that to them.
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tp4 wrote:
came from a divorced family in the late 60's.move to s fla with my dad never finished hh..been working ever since..it was hard on me personaly...
came from a divorced family in the late 60's.move to s fla with my dad never finished hh..been working ever since..it was hard on me personaly.
been married for 30 years after knowing my wife for 1 week..lol, 4 kids ..won't dare do that to them.
We were married 12 years after knowing each other 5 weeks. The divorce was final like 3 days before what would have been our 13th anniversary.
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I've been married for 15 years (last february).

The last year has been pretty difficult at times...with the talk of a "D" a couple of times. I can honestly say, if not for my kids, I probably would have left.......


I guess there is a fine line between trying to work it out for the kids...and being away from each other and letting the kids see you happy.
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5/11/2011 2:49pm Edited Date/Time 5/11/2011 2:50pm
Pixie wrote:
Let me clarify. Jim has been ordered child support over a year ago, which he has not paid a dime of. $475 for 3 kids is...
Let me clarify. Jim has been ordered child support over a year ago, which he has not paid a dime of. $475 for 3 kids is NOT bad at all. He also has visitation, he can see them whenever, however long he wants but hasn't made a single effort to see them. Anytime he has seen them it's because I drove from OK to NM. I cannot afford that on a regular basis though. He has my number and can call them at anytime but he never does. He will send me an occasional text asking me to tell them that he loves and misses them, which I gladly do for him. He also sends me text messages that say, "Fuck you and fuck the kids! I want nothing to do with them from now on." His next text said. "Get a job and a life, dumb bitch! McDonalds is always hiring." However, he did send me Happy Mother's Day wishes. He told me he would gladly sign papers to waive his righs if it meant he would never have to deal with me again. It's my opinion that he feels if he waives his rights he will not have to pay child support. The same support he has not paid anyway. I have never gone after him for it. In a monet of weakness I broke down and told him I need help. He buys new cars, clothes and goes to Vegas etc al the time, we are eating ramen and I have sold all of my jewelry and family heirlooms in order to feed the kids. I try not complain but it sounds loike I am right now. His Fuck you texts stemmed from the fact that I told him (as a heads up) that when I move to NM, I will need to apply for public assistance and they are probably going to make me go after him for child support before they help me.
I wasn't trying to be a bitch, I was just letting him know, and also that they may change the amount to be almost double what he has been ordered to pay.
I'm not trying to slander him, I just want to say that there three sides to every story,m I'm sure you've heard his, this is mine and then there's the truth somewhere on between.

I'm not trying to make my fiance their new daddy. He lives in NM as well as Jim but he still manages to call them everyday and night, he tells them in person that heloves and misses them and he does what he can to see them and spend time with them, not just me, them too. I never talk bad about Jim to the kids, I would never do that. My man, btw is one of my best friend's from whom I've known since I was 14. Jim had once referred to him as gay because we had alwayd been friends and my guy had never tried to get in my pants. Who's gay now, Jim? He also gave Jim a job when Jim was down and out(which Jim lost due to excessive violence) My guy is not a bad guy to know, he is a decent man.

Did he tell you about walking into the strip club and finding his 23 year old daughter dancing there? I had known for monthsand he had no clue. He lives in the same town as her and they never talk, yet I talk to her daily and she calls me mom.....yet I'm the witch. Thats' cool. 'll take it because you can't put a price on freedom.

Jim likes to play the victim. We all do sometimes.
"I'm not trying to slander him"
Really, then what is all of this called? You post comments on a message board that he frequents and throws pics up of your family with your "new man" and expect anyone to believe that you are here for good intent? Please. Don't get me wrong, in some of these pictures of yourself, your a hot piece of ass (probably too hot for that guy you're with now) but you're an evil bitch with tons of anger. Go out gracefully mom, your actions lean more toward the love you have for Mutt "or Jim or whoever the fuck he is" than the hate you have for him.
5/11/2011 2:55pm Edited Date/Time 5/11/2011 2:59pm
Huck, u are kind of a fuckstick, but hopefully you have never gone to walk out the door to go riding and had her yell "I hope you break your fuckin neck today!" and hear shit hitting the door behind you.
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5/11/2011 2:57pm
Just so you are aware, Sonny, those pics have been up for several weeks, I was just recently allowed to publish them. I have been on these boards as long as Mutt and you don't know what you're talking about. I don't need to say anything further because the people who know......know. Carry on, love the evil bitch with tons of anger. =)
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5/11/2011 3:07pm
I was afraid that this thread would turn nasty at some point. Up to now it's been folks discussing the pain and difficulties of divorce with kids from just about every perspective, husband, wife, step-parent, grown kids. With very few exceptions, no one is the complete bad guy or the angel. Anger and hurt make people do some pretty shitty things.

I suppose it's to late too hope it can return to a reasonably respectful discussion?
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5/11/2011 3:14pm Edited Date/Time 5/11/2011 3:15pm
Pixie wrote:
Just so you are aware, Sonny, those pics have been up for several weeks, I was just recently allowed to publish them. I have been on...
Just so you are aware, Sonny, those pics have been up for several weeks, I was just recently allowed to publish them. I have been on these boards as long as Mutt and you don't know what you're talking about. I don't need to say anything further because the people who know......know. Carry on, love the evil bitch with tons of anger. =)
I probably would but you're too far away. What I do know is that this is probably all too embarrassing for Mutt and should be for you as well. I also know that you are too hot for your new man. You probably like it that way, because no matter what a great guy he may be, you'll have at least 51% control over the relationship. Hey..... someone has to call the shots.
That's 100% more that you've ever had over this Mutt character. Doesn't that burn your ass?

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