Vintage MX Consumer Alert - Buyers Beware

Rudy19r
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Edited Date/Time 1/25/2012 10:58pm
Be careful before purchasing any bikes from Mark Harris of Bullhead City, AZ. I recently bought a 1979 Honda CR250 that was supposed to be 'Fully Restored'. Not quite.
When I took delivery, I have to admit, the bike LOOKED beautiful. Mark told me he had taken taken it on a test ride prior to delivery, and then admitted that it had the wrong throttle cable that would have to be either fixed or replaced.
At first, I thought the throttle issue was going to be only a minor inconvenience. That turned into a $40 new (Custom made) cable. After installing the cable, I brought the bike to a local MX Vet track in order to break it in. I didn't make it a full lap. The cable was only part of the problem, the throttle assembly was shot as well. There was not a stop, it simply went from full throttle in one direction to full throttle rotating the other direction. (I literally had to ride with one hand on the clutch and one on the kill switch in order to make it back to the truck!)
At this point, I decided to cut my losses for the day and bring it to my personal mechanic who builds my race bikes. I asked him to replace the throttle cable and assembly, as well as the handle bars (which were bent, incidentally)
When I went back to the shop to pick up the bike and kicked it over, we realized it wasn't idling anywhere close to normal. My mechanic then pulled the carb and discovered a considerable amount of DIRT IN THE FLOAT BOWL. After some furthur adjustment to the carb,we re-fired the bike. My mechanic then said that the main bearing in the lower end sounded strange. He pulled the timing cover off and saw that the MAIN BEARING IN THE LOWER END WAS COMPLETELY WORN OUT. (Had I managed to ride the bike for any time at all, there is no doubt we would have lost the entire lower end!) Luckily, this was discovered while in the shop, rather than on the track. (His 'test ride' should have revealed this.) I now have to pay my mechanic to fix the problems that, frankly shouldn't exist.
So at this point, I have a bike that Mr. Harris claimed was ready to ride, that's spent more time in my mechanic's garage than in mine.
Again, the bike looks great, but I bought it to ride, not to look at.
Incidentally, I e-mailed Mark, with these same details, expressing my displeasure with the bike he sold me, and requested a partial refund. He never returned my message. (This from someone who claims to stand behind his work.)
I would think twice before purchasing a bike from this guy. (Or make sure you CLOSELY inspect any bike prior to purchasing.

BUYER BEWARE!
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wfoyz250
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5/10/2011 4:32am
Must be something in the area but there's a few guys in Arizona that others need to be aware of. Especially those who "stand behind their work".
gwilliams107
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5/10/2011 8:43am Edited Date/Time 5/11/2011 7:24am
I had a guy from California screw me on an engine rebuild and some Simons forks. I would think the Vintage community was small enough to weed these guys out fairly fast but I've read where the same guy has done this over and over. Wished I had searched his name prior to sending that stuff off.
5/11/2011 1:57pm
Seems like there is a lot of "beautiful bikes' that pop up for sale. The cosmetic restore is the fun and easy part of bringing an old bike back into shape. Some merely slap a top end in an otherwise tired motor and claim "rebuilt".

Myself, give me a complete rough original. That way I don't feel as bad when I have to sink some coin in it, as I would when buying someone elses version of a "perfect bike", and it's nothing more than a polished turd, still needing $$$ thrown at it. At least you know what you have in the end by starting from scratch.

As far as the "swapmeet page", the suggestion of a feedback forum has been made by several, but to no avail.

It is suggested to take matters up with the buyer / seller on your own. Hard to do when one side refuses to communicate.

I say if an individual has more than a handful of of negative feedback comments in a reasonable time frame, his posting rights should be suspended for a minimum of 90 days.

It would help determine whether you would even begin to risk your money with a given individual, based on feedback.

Sorry to hear of you guys bad deals.
CamP
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5/11/2011 2:52pm Edited Date/Time 5/11/2011 2:54pm
I look for low hour 100% original bikes, down to the tires. They usually just need a little cosmetic work, suspension service, new rubber and chain/sprockets. They are out there. I've found four in the last two years.

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CamP
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5/11/2011 8:52pm
Check out this Mark Harris ad on the swapmeet. All Original?
Rudy19r
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5/13/2011 12:55pm
An Update..
It's going to cost me $1000 for a complete engine rebuild on his "Complete Restoration".
CamP
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5/13/2011 1:16pm
He sounds like a real goof ball if he thinks the RM in his ad is "all original".
Rudy19r
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5/13/2011 1:48pm
@CamP,
Total Goofball. Note the Acerbis fender on his "all original" RM. I'm sure the inside of the engine is all original as well, including the worn out parts.
He finally contacted me and now claims that he never said it was a complete restoration. I sent him a copy of the email he sent me with those exact words underlined in BOLD RED. It's always a good idea to keep a copy of those types of correspondence.
CamP
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5/13/2011 9:36pm Edited Date/Time 5/13/2011 9:38pm
Rudy19r wrote:
@CamP, Total Goofball. Note the Acerbis fender on his "all original" RM. I'm sure the inside of the engine is all original as well, including the...
@CamP,
Total Goofball. Note the Acerbis fender on his "all original" RM. I'm sure the inside of the engine is all original as well, including the worn out parts.
He finally contacted me and now claims that he never said it was a complete restoration. I sent him a copy of the email he sent me with those exact words underlined in BOLD RED. It's always a good idea to keep a copy of those types of correspondence.
Don't forget the Acerbis rear fender, CR silencer, S&W shocks, Daystar fork boots, SX front number plate, shade tree safety seat and the sweet rattle can yellow frame paint. All original!

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