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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 9:12am
Best part of the debate tonight... Watch McCains eyes and facial expression:




haha.. headlines:


McCain Doesn't Get It. Loses in Landslide!
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Oldmotoguy
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10/15/2008 9:03pm
Joe the Plumber had quite the look also when he told him he has to pay more taxes
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10/15/2008 9:05pm
I would consider myself a republican if I was an American...but McCain is too old and has only half a clue wtf he is saying. See the rapid eye movement?...means hes fukking clueless about what to say next.
10/15/2008 9:06pm Edited Date/Time 10/15/2008 9:08pm
How do you know? Were you hangin' with Joe watching his facial expressions during the debate? All wealthy people (in this case, those who make over $240,000 a year) are not Subsidize and Spend republicans. Some view taxes as a civic responsibility.

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How do you know? Were you hangin' with Joe watching his facial expressions during the debate? All wealthy people (in this case, those who make over...
How do you know? Were you hangin' with Joe watching his facial expressions during the debate? All wealthy people (in this case, those who make over $240,000 a year) are not Subsidize and Spend republicans. Some view taxes as a civic responsibility.

i watched joes face after BO told him that he had to pay more taxes on the video

is that why 40% of people don't pat any taxes

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10/15/2008 9:12pm
Joe the plumber needs to hit news circuit and get rich beotch...
10/15/2008 9:16pm
McCain likes to tell everyone how America is the highest taxed nation. He doesn't finish by explaining that most taxes aren't paid due to loopholes and evasion.
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Maybe McCain just came off an afternoon crack session with Palin talkin about Putin flying over their heads.
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10/15/2008 11:46pm
Ahhhh they are both full of shit!
10/16/2008 12:42am
Tiki wrote:
Ahhhh they are both full of shit!
So then you should pick the one that will help with foreign relations and who will help with ending the war, etc. And that's not John McSame.
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10/16/2008 4:56am
jonjon714 wrote:
Joe the plumber needs to hit news circuit and get rich beotch...
Joe was on ABC's Nightline last night, on the phone.
He said he was surprised McCain referenced him and that he was used so much, but he refused to say who he was voting for and said that there are things he dislikes with both candidates.

So, Joe may or may not become a political figurehead for the McCain campaign
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jeasus did you see the joe the plumber t-shirts etc. alresdy, you guys are quick of the mark to make a buck,
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Its not Joe the Plumber its Joe the Plumbing Business owner. Joe the Plumber makes him sound like a handyman. Its no freakin wonder this country is so expensive when a plumber makes over 250k a year. I think Im gonna go out and get me one of them 100k a year paper routes.

And are they serious that 40% of americans dont pay taxes? How do they figure that?
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McCain likes to tell everyone how America is the highest taxed nation. He doesn't finish by explaining that most taxes aren't paid due to loopholes and...
McCain likes to tell everyone how America is the highest taxed nation. He doesn't finish by explaining that most taxes aren't paid due to loopholes and evasion.
Maybe if the corporate tax rate were lower companies wouldn't try so hard to get out of paying.
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10/16/2008 6:33am
McCain likes to tell everyone how America is the highest taxed nation. He doesn't finish by explaining that most taxes aren't paid due to loopholes and...
McCain likes to tell everyone how America is the highest taxed nation. He doesn't finish by explaining that most taxes aren't paid due to loopholes and evasion.
Bob693 wrote:
Maybe if the corporate tax rate were lower companies wouldn't try so hard to get out of paying.
Do you really believe that?
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McCain likes to tell everyone how America is the highest taxed nation. He doesn't finish by explaining that most taxes aren't paid due to loopholes and...
McCain likes to tell everyone how America is the highest taxed nation. He doesn't finish by explaining that most taxes aren't paid due to loopholes and evasion.
Bob693 wrote:
Maybe if the corporate tax rate were lower companies wouldn't try so hard to get out of paying.
flarider wrote:
Do you really believe that?
Yes, if we had one of the lowest tax rates instead of the highest, companies would set up shop here instead of moving their headquarters to the Virgin Islands. We should have a 15% corporate tax with no loopholes or deductions. If you do business here you pay 15% period.
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10/16/2008 7:13am
Best part of the debate tonight... Watch McCains eyes and facial expression:




haha.. headlines:


McCain Doesn't Get It. Loses in Landslide!
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10/16/2008 9:49am
Tiki wrote:
Ahhhh they are both full of shit!
So then you should pick the one that will help with foreign relations and who will help with ending the war, etc. And that's not John...
So then you should pick the one that will help with foreign relations and who will help with ending the war, etc. And that's not John McSame.
BO isn't ending the war,hes moving the soldiers to Afgany

you'll say anything
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10/16/2008 10:18am
I want to see the look on Joe the plubers face when he tries to buy health ins for his employee's. I will be the worse than the look he has when he finds out how much his product liability insurance is going up next year.
10/16/2008 10:25am
Bob693 wrote:
Maybe if the corporate tax rate were lower companies wouldn't try so hard to get out of paying.
flarider wrote:
Do you really believe that?
Bob693 wrote:
Yes, if we had one of the lowest tax rates instead of the highest, companies would set up shop here instead of moving their headquarters to...
Yes, if we had one of the lowest tax rates instead of the highest, companies would set up shop here instead of moving their headquarters to the Virgin Islands. We should have a 15% corporate tax with no loopholes or deductions. If you do business here you pay 15% period.
Again, companies that move off-shore should be forced to pay tariffs on their goods. Companies that don't employ Americans shouldn't benefit from selling in America so easily. We have the largest market in the world. Companies will gladly pay their fair share in taxes to sell here. They're not going anywhere.
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Oldmotoguy wrote:
BO isn't ending the war,hes moving the soldiers to Afgany

you'll say anything
You know we're already fighting in Afghanistan, right?
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10/16/2008 10:31am
Solve what?

We leave, which is what the Iraqi leadership wants us to do
We gave them democracy and their democratically elected leadership wants us to leave, so we leave
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Oldmotoguy wrote:
BO isn't ending the war,hes moving the soldiers to Afgany

you'll say anything
flarider wrote:
You know we're already fighting in Afghanistan, right?
and BO isn't ending the war,right?
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10/16/2008 10:37am
In Iraq, yes

Afghanistan is where the bad guys are and where we should've been from day one
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I have no idolatry of Mcain or Palin. I have none for Obama.. Though from your posts I will say you sure do for Obama. I'm much more along the lines of Ron Paul. McCain has been working with the Middle East issue since day one. Obama whom is on the committee for foreign affairs has shown his interest as he has chosen to not show up for those meetings. As for family in country on tour, I do have and had. But don't let that stop you from making assumptions. Tell us, do you have anyone overseas?

On to fighting. I guess we as a society could sit by and see the atrocities from our lazy boy and say, gee that really sucks. Sucks for them! How about that nice little town that was cleaned out by mustard gas. What a bummer. Im not saying that our interest there isnt motivated by oil. It is. But im sure you will argue that. After all Georgia is just some State in America.

I blame Clinton the same as you blame Bush. Again your anonymity works well for you as you are a coward. But hey Im fine with it. I am not here to change your mind, just here to point out where you veer the road.

I am not against talking with people, Albright and Clinton tried they just didn't follow through. Trying to reason with these people is similar to the discussion you and I have. We aren't going to change the opinions of each other. We have our position for whatever reasons, and you should know better by now to accuse me of thinking I'm just some military bystander. Your points would be better suited to you if you actually pointed out how it effects you, not as some reporter rehashing what is printed in the American Media.

Say we open discussion with Bin Laden. What then? Stop doing that or we will say stop again? Hussein, dont kill your people. Dont treat your women less then dogs. Dont let your son shoot people in public. Dont assassinate your police. Thank goodness those fucks are gone.

I dont like it, we are there, lets do this fully or just get the fuck out and let them go back to killing each other.

I wont argue how we got there, it was bullshit and underhanded. but I differ to the last statement. Its done. Lets finish it or leave them to their own devices and wait til the war comes to us. Because it will if we let it.
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10/16/2008 12:12pm
Are you sure about paragraph 2?

I've read we can't use the oil in Iraq. To high in sulpher(SP?) or something like that.

That and the cost to have it shipped here to be refined, makes it unuseable for us.

Is that true, or just BS I read?
10/16/2008 12:21pm
kaw rider9 wrote:
Are you sure about paragraph 2? I've read we can't use the oil in Iraq. To high in sulpher(SP?) or something like that. That and the...
Are you sure about paragraph 2?

I've read we can't use the oil in Iraq. To high in sulpher(SP?) or something like that.

That and the cost to have it shipped here to be refined, makes it unuseable for us.

Is that true, or just BS I read?
I don't know if it's true, but it hasn't stopped the oil companies from getting contracts with the Iraqis. It's also possible that they didn't know about that ahead of time.
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Reality... its where people dont hide behind the interweb. You live in the web, I live in the real world. Plain and simple. I agree with some of your points but you are so entrenched in American media you believe what ever they put in front of you to eat.

No oil was sarcasm. Not of interest to us due to no oil we can fill our wallets with.

Take care.

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