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Edited Date/Time 1/24/2012 7:39am
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More threats against Obama since election

Law enforcement officials say he's getting more than other presidents-elect

WASHINGTON - Threats against a new president historically spike right after an election, but from Maine to Idaho law enforcement officials are seeing more against Barack Obama than ever before.

The Secret Service would not comment or provide the number of cases they are investigating. But since the Nov. 4 election, law enforcement officials have seen more potentially threatening writings, Internet postings and other activity directed at Obama than has been seen with any past president-elect, said officials aware of the situation who spoke on condition of anonymity because the issue of a president's security is so sensitive.

Earlier this week, the Secret Service looked into the case of a sign posted on a tree in Vay, Idaho, with Obama's name and the offer of a "free public hanging." In North Carolina, civil rights officials complained of threatening racist graffiti targeting Obama found in a tunnel near the North Carolina State University campus.

And in a Maine convenience store, an Associated Press reporter saw a sign inviting customers to join a betting pool on when Obama might fall victim to an assassin. The sign solicited $1 entries into "The Osama Obama Shotgun Pool," saying the money would go to the person picking the date closest to when Obama was attacked. "Let's hope we have a winner," said the sign, since taken down.

In the security world, anything "new" can trigger hostility, said Joseph Funk, a former Secret Service agent-turned security consultant who oversaw a private protection detail for Obama before the Secret Service began guarding the candidate in early 2007.

'Increased chatter'
Obama, of course, will be the country's first black president, and Funk said that new element, not just race itself, is probably responsible for a spike in anti-Obama postings and activity. "Anytime you're going to have something that's new, you're going to have increased chatter," he said.

The Secret Service also has cautioned the public not to assume that any threats against Obama are due to racism.

The service investigates threats in a wide range. There are "stated threats" and equally dangerous or lesser incidents considered of "unusual interest" — such as people motivated by obsessions or infatuations or lower-level gestures such as effigies of a candidate or an elected president. The service has said it does not have the luxury of discounting anything until agents have investigated the potential danger.

Racially tinged graffiti — not necessarily directed at Obama — also has emerged in numerous reports across the nation since Election Day, prompting at least one news conference by a local chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People in Georgia.

A law enforcement official who also spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly said that during the campaign there was a spike in anti-Obama rhetoric on the Internet — "a lot of ranting and raving with no capability, credibility or specificity to it."

There were two threatening cases with racial overtones:

* In Denver, a group of men with guns and bulletproof vests made racist threats against Obama and sparked fears of an assassination plot during the Democratic National Convention in August.
* Just before the election, two skinheads in Tennessee were charged with plotting to behead blacks across the country and assassinate Obama while wearing white top hats and tuxedos.

In both cases, authorities determined the men were not capable of carrying out their plots.

Poster with bullet going through head
In Milwaukee, police officials found a poster of Obama with a bullet going toward his head — discovered on a table in a police station.

Chatter among white supremacists on the Internet has increased throughout the campaign and since Election Day.

One of the most popular white supremacist Web sites got more than 2,000 new members the day after the election, compared with 91 new members on Election Day, according to an AP count. The site, stormfront.org, was temporarily off-line Nov. 5 because of the overwhelming amount of activity it received after Election Day. On Saturday, one Stormfront poster, identified as Dalderian Germanicus, of North Las Vegas, said, "I want the SOB laid out in a box to see how 'messiahs' come to rest. God has abandoned us, this country is doomed."

It is not surprising that a black president would galvanize the white supremacist movement, said Mark Potok, director of the Southern Poverty Law Center, who studies the white supremacy movement.

"The overwhelming flavor of the white supremacist world is a mix of desperation, confusion and hoping that this will somehow turn into a good thing for them," Potok said. He said hate groups have been on the rise in the past seven years because of a common concern about immigration.
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flarider
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11/14/2008 6:55pm
BTW, anyone see the Bill Ayers interview where he says he never was friends with Obama?
11/14/2008 6:59pm
Seems like of the people screaming about his "terrorist ties", quite a few of them are terrorists themselves.
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11/14/2008 7:14pm
flarider wrote:
BTW, anyone see the Bill Ayers interview where he says he never was friends with Obama?
Did you read in the book he is pimping that they are family friends?

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11/14/2008 7:21pm
Obviously you did not see the interview
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11/14/2008 7:23pm
nope, doesnt intrest me. The election is over most people need to move on.(not meaning you)
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11/14/2008 8:52pm
Seems like of the people screaming about his "terrorist ties", quite a few of them are terrorists themselves.
Ouch!
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11/14/2008 9:39pm Edited Date/Time 11/14/2008 9:40pm
The KKK is getting riled up down here in La. This week there was an incident in this area in which a woman came down from Oklahoma to join, then got cold feet during part of the initiation. They killed her, then got caught when a couple guys stopped at a convenience store and asked the cashier how they could get blood out of their clothes. Keep in mind that David Duke made it to the runoff when he ran for governor a few years back in La. Smart group of folks down here.
11/14/2008 9:52pm
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nope, doesnt intrest me. The election is over most people need to move on.(not meaning you)
Then why'd you bring up the book and what may or may not be in it?
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11/14/2008 10:00pm
yzthumpa wrote:
The KKK is getting riled up down here in La. This week there was an incident in this area in which a woman came down from...
The KKK is getting riled up down here in La. This week there was an incident in this area in which a woman came down from Oklahoma to join, then got cold feet during part of the initiation. They killed her, then got caught when a couple guys stopped at a convenience store and asked the cashier how they could get blood out of their clothes. Keep in mind that David Duke made it to the runoff when he ran for governor a few years back in La. Smart group of folks down here.
Some scarey shit.
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11/14/2008 11:24pm
thats why BO is going to have a civilian security force to get them whiteys
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11/15/2008 3:17am
When you have Rush Limbaugh and a hundred or so imitators on talk radio saying Obama is an unamerican traitor terrorist Muslim every day for 5 or 6 hours a day, what else could possibly happen? And to make this campaign even more effective, you have thousands of "Christian" preachers lending moral cover to hatred, racism and desires for murder and violence. Jim Jones could only dream of being this effective - in Jim Jones' wildest dreams, he'd never have believed that a mass brain washing of millions of Americans could be accomplished by a few guys using radios and a core group of quasi-religious leaders who blatantly dismiss the foundations of their own religion without being called to account by their followers.

It's funny that one of the wingnuts' most convenient targets, Bill Ayers, was charged with inciting a riot, and yet the wingnuts' most cherished goal, their Holy Grail, is to do exactly that.
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11/15/2008 6:32am
flarider wrote:
BTW, anyone see the Bill Ayers interview where he says he never was friends with Obama?
Ayers is lying to save his ass
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11/15/2008 8:08am
flarider wrote:
BTW, anyone see the Bill Ayers interview where he says he never was friends with Obama?
spacerider wrote:
Ayers is lying to save his ass
BO and Ayers had dinners together too..but didn't mention that
Ayers said on the interview that he still wasn't remorseful about what he did

so now that we are in a unpopular war again,is it OK to plan to bomb the pentagon and other government buildings? that was AYERS logic
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11/15/2008 8:11am
Funny you should mention brainwashing.."escape from Jonestown" is on CNN as of lately..the original KOO-AID drinkers
11/15/2008 8:37am
People didn't vote for him for that reason. Nice job trying to spin the subject, though. The REALITY is that there have been more threats against Obama than any president-elect in history. Why don't you talk about that? That is the subject, after all.
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11/15/2008 9:10am
This whole thing disgusts me. Barak Obama is the President Elect and soon will be the President, our President. The fact that people just expect him to be killed is so sickening. I think it is almost unbelievable that it is a forgone conclusion in so many people minds.

I expect so much more from Americans. People should be outraged no matter their political association.
11/15/2008 9:50am Edited Date/Time 11/15/2008 9:51am
I'm not poor and I voted for him. I'm pretty sure flarider's not poor, and I'm pretty sure Hollywood movie stars aren't poor. But this still has nothing to do with the subject. Stick to the subject, please. The subject is that people are targeting Obama more than any president-elect in history. It's funny how right-wing extremists get into office (ahem, BUSH) and no one on the left threatens to kill them. What are your thoughts on that?
11/15/2008 9:52am
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This whole thing disgusts me. Barak Obama is the President Elect and soon will be the President, our President. The fact that people just expect him...
This whole thing disgusts me. Barak Obama is the President Elect and soon will be the President, our President. The fact that people just expect him to be killed is so sickening. I think it is almost unbelievable that it is a forgone conclusion in so many people minds.

I expect so much more from Americans. People should be outraged no matter their political association.
Good post.
11/15/2008 10:45am
And by the way, are you really naive enough to believe that the threats aren't racially motivated, but just because of his "extreme left ideals"?
11/15/2008 12:20pm
He didn't kill anyone. He didn't even injure anyone.
Wow, good understanding of Ayers. Who taught his girlfriend how to make bombs before she blew herself up? I'm glad he's not remorseful for anything he's done. If I trained my son to hate and he went out in the world and killed someone did I kill anyone? Based on the No Spin Zone, the honest answer is, "NO". Billy Ayers followers went out and killed innocent people. If you met Judith Clark or Ms. Boudin back in the Brink's Robbery you would be looking at two 5' 2'' middle aged well educated women who look harmless. Each one of these pieces of shit were followers of ass hole Ayers. Ayers killed innocent people. He just didn't have the balls to do it himself.
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11/15/2008 1:19pm
Oldmotoguy wrote:
BO and Ayers had dinners together too..but didn't mention that Ayers said on the interview that he still wasn't remorseful about what he did so now...
BO and Ayers had dinners together too..but didn't mention that
Ayers said on the interview that he still wasn't remorseful about what he did

so now that we are in a unpopular war again,is it OK to plan to bomb the pentagon and other government buildings? that was AYERS logic
Need we research the Ayers/McCain relationship?
I'm not sure you'd like the outcome.
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11/15/2008 1:41pm
flarider wrote:
BTW, anyone see the Bill Ayers interview where he says he never was friends with Obama?
spacerider wrote:
Ayers is lying to save his ass
Oldmotoguy wrote:
BO and Ayers had dinners together too..but didn't mention that Ayers said on the interview that he still wasn't remorseful about what he did so now...
BO and Ayers had dinners together too..but didn't mention that
Ayers said on the interview that he still wasn't remorseful about what he did

so now that we are in a unpopular war again,is it OK to plan to bomb the pentagon and other government buildings? that was AYERS logic
just too over the US gov. with out firing a shot..thats a good reason to lied
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11/15/2008 2:00pm
and you conveniently left off this part...


"but from Maine to Idaho law enforcement officials are seeing more against Barack Obama than ever before."
11/15/2008 5:11pm
He didn't kill anyone. He didn't even injure anyone.
Wow, good understanding of Ayers. Who taught his girlfriend how to make bombs before she blew herself up? I'm glad he's not remorseful for anything he's...
Wow, good understanding of Ayers. Who taught his girlfriend how to make bombs before she blew herself up? I'm glad he's not remorseful for anything he's done. If I trained my son to hate and he went out in the world and killed someone did I kill anyone? Based on the No Spin Zone, the honest answer is, "NO". Billy Ayers followers went out and killed innocent people. If you met Judith Clark or Ms. Boudin back in the Brink's Robbery you would be looking at two 5' 2'' middle aged well educated women who look harmless. Each one of these pieces of shit were followers of ass hole Ayers. Ayers killed innocent people. He just didn't have the balls to do it himself.
That's the best you have? Yeah, like I said, he didn't kill anyone. He didn't even injure anyone.
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11/15/2008 5:27pm
obama's ideas were so unpopular .... he won the majority of votes . lmao !
11/15/2008 5:29pm
eddie wrote:
obama's ideas were so unpopular .... he won the majority of votes . lmao !
By only 7.5 MILLION.

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