Vaccines cure cancer!!!...Depending on who you ask

Edited Date/Time 5/17/2014 7:49pm
I thought this was pretty interesting. I watched the below video on a story with the headline, "Massive Measles Vaccine Dose Cures Woman's Cancer." But when they actually talked in the video it says that it was actually the measles virus that they injected her with and as I googled more stories I found more of the same. Some stories would say it was the vaccine that cured it and others would say it was the virus that cured it. I think most conspiracy theorist type people are crazy but what if the cure for cancer is to let people actually get measles? Just thought I would share. It was interesting.

http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/health/2014/05/15/measles-vaccine-cancer-cure/9140855/

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/15/us-health-cancer-measles-idUSKBN0DV1Y120140515
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5/15/2014 10:30pm Edited Date/Time 5/16/2014 1:49am
Let me start off by saying, there is nothing funny about Cancer, (my Grandparents on my mum's side passed away from cancer).
My dad spent 18 years researching Cancer because of crooks like William Lane, (alternative gurus can be dangerous too).
I have some emails from a very prominent researcher at the Mayo Clinic that was involved in a Cancer treatment, trial for Merck. You'd shit bricks if you read what he had to say about the whole Cancer/Pharma industry.

This $hit always cracks me up... Think of the billions in funding that will be lost if they find a cure!

Every time they have a surplus of Vaccines, they miraculously cure Cancer too!

I had a little piece of glass in my foot once and had a Doctor pull it out in 5 seconds.
When I was done he asked me, "when were you last vaccinated"? When I told him to drop it, I looked over at a fridge with Procter and Gamble magnets all over it!Laughing It was like going to buy something and the salesman trying to get you to pay for an extended warranty or some extra features you don't want or need?

Vaccines!!! Every cunt and their dog rushes to have "the jab" at the advice of fuckwits.
Kid next-door got his Flu Shot, and three weeks later was home from school because he had, (you guessed it), the fucking Flu!

They want to stop parents from putting their children in pre-schools if they haven't been vaccinated! If all the other kids had the jab then what's the fucking problem? They should be immune shouldn't they?

Sorry to pick your thread to vent, but this just pissed me off, as it always does... nothing personal.

Big Pharma can eat a fucking dick, that goes for you too M-fucking-Monaco! Don't want the silent P to come after me, hence the initial of the first name.Laughing

Sorry, I had a bone to pick.

My beer is empty... I shall rectify this issue by grabbing another one.Wink

My brother had some paperwork made up in case the doctors put the heavy on him to vaccinate his new born, (both for his daughter and son). It basically stated that if there were any long term effects, it was the Doctors responsibility.

No Vaccine and sure as hell no Signature from old Doc!
5/15/2014 11:02pm
EZZA 95B wrote:
Let me start off by saying, there is nothing funny about Cancer, (my Grandparents on my mum's side passed away from cancer). My dad spent 18...
Let me start off by saying, there is nothing funny about Cancer, (my Grandparents on my mum's side passed away from cancer).
My dad spent 18 years researching Cancer because of crooks like William Lane, (alternative gurus can be dangerous too).
I have some emails from a very prominent researcher at the Mayo Clinic that was involved in a Cancer treatment, trial for Merck. You'd shit bricks if you read what he had to say about the whole Cancer/Pharma industry.

This $hit always cracks me up... Think of the billions in funding that will be lost if they find a cure!

Every time they have a surplus of Vaccines, they miraculously cure Cancer too!

I had a little piece of glass in my foot once and had a Doctor pull it out in 5 seconds.
When I was done he asked me, "when were you last vaccinated"? When I told him to drop it, I looked over at a fridge with Procter and Gamble magnets all over it!Laughing It was like going to buy something and the salesman trying to get you to pay for an extended warranty or some extra features you don't want or need?

Vaccines!!! Every cunt and their dog rushes to have "the jab" at the advice of fuckwits.
Kid next-door got his Flu Shot, and three weeks later was home from school because he had, (you guessed it), the fucking Flu!

They want to stop parents from putting their children in pre-schools if they haven't been vaccinated! If all the other kids had the jab then what's the fucking problem? They should be immune shouldn't they?

Sorry to pick your thread to vent, but this just pissed me off, as it always does... nothing personal.

Big Pharma can eat a fucking dick, that goes for you too M-fucking-Monaco! Don't want the silent P to come after me, hence the initial of the first name.Laughing

Sorry, I had a bone to pick.

My beer is empty... I shall rectify this issue by grabbing another one.Wink

My brother had some paperwork made up in case the doctors put the heavy on him to vaccinate his new born, (both for his daughter and son). It basically stated that if there were any long term effects, it was the Doctors responsibility.

No Vaccine and sure as hell no Signature from old Doc!
This cracked me up. Ezza if youre ever in the states im definitley going to buy you a beer or 9.
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Laughing That was my split personality showing... I've had a rotten day.Dizzy
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5/16/2014 8:43am
Actually the way it was cured was to engineer the measles virus to specifically attack cancer cells. They genetically engineered the virus to go after the cancerous cells and then injected the massive dose of the vaccine which then attacked the cancer cells that has been attacked by the measles virus, effectively killing them both.

This isn't a case of just grabbing a measles vaccine off the shelf and giving a person a massive dose to cure them of cancer. It's far more complex than that.

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5/16/2014 8:59am
Yea i realized that after I read about it a little bit. I actually just learned about it in nursing school. They can take samples of the tumor and create something that will attack those specific cells. It's really cool stuff. It's called molecular targeted therapy. But the downside is that it sounds a lot like the opening plot of that movie "I Am Legend" where everyone turns into zombies after they get it.
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5/16/2014 9:43am Edited Date/Time 5/16/2014 9:44am
So does weedCool Tokeaday keeps the doc away..
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I'm with you EZZA, 100%. That article just shows us that they can kill what they created in the first place. Big Pharma and Big Farming is in the business of making money on sick people and making people sick. It's a big joke to them and I wish more people could see the problem. My wife and I both lost our dads in their 60's to cancer and both of my sons suffer from allergies. There is a lot of this stuff I wish I knew about 8 years ago when my first son was born but instead we are spending thousands a year to fix some issues caused by this crap. People need to stop thinking we are living 50 years ago and realize the food our parents ate "when they were a kid" is not even close to the same shit food we eat today.
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5/16/2014 6:23pm
EZZA 95B wrote:
Let me start off by saying, there is nothing funny about Cancer, (my Grandparents on my mum's side passed away from cancer). My dad spent 18...
Let me start off by saying, there is nothing funny about Cancer, (my Grandparents on my mum's side passed away from cancer).
My dad spent 18 years researching Cancer because of crooks like William Lane, (alternative gurus can be dangerous too).
I have some emails from a very prominent researcher at the Mayo Clinic that was involved in a Cancer treatment, trial for Merck. You'd shit bricks if you read what he had to say about the whole Cancer/Pharma industry.

This $hit always cracks me up... Think of the billions in funding that will be lost if they find a cure!

Every time they have a surplus of Vaccines, they miraculously cure Cancer too!

I had a little piece of glass in my foot once and had a Doctor pull it out in 5 seconds.
When I was done he asked me, "when were you last vaccinated"? When I told him to drop it, I looked over at a fridge with Procter and Gamble magnets all over it!Laughing It was like going to buy something and the salesman trying to get you to pay for an extended warranty or some extra features you don't want or need?

Vaccines!!! Every cunt and their dog rushes to have "the jab" at the advice of fuckwits.
Kid next-door got his Flu Shot, and three weeks later was home from school because he had, (you guessed it), the fucking Flu!

They want to stop parents from putting their children in pre-schools if they haven't been vaccinated! If all the other kids had the jab then what's the fucking problem? They should be immune shouldn't they?

Sorry to pick your thread to vent, but this just pissed me off, as it always does... nothing personal.

Big Pharma can eat a fucking dick, that goes for you too M-fucking-Monaco! Don't want the silent P to come after me, hence the initial of the first name.Laughing

Sorry, I had a bone to pick.

My beer is empty... I shall rectify this issue by grabbing another one.Wink

My brother had some paperwork made up in case the doctors put the heavy on him to vaccinate his new born, (both for his daughter and son). It basically stated that if there were any long term effects, it was the Doctors responsibility.

No Vaccine and sure as hell no Signature from old Doc!
There are a lot of people who think the same way as you. While big pharma is in it for the $$s you can't just look at that.
I live in So Cal. We vaccinate for whooping cough and for most of the country it's not something to worry about. However,
in Mexico they don't vaccinate everyone and the illegals are constantly bringing it into our country with them. So in San Diego we are constantly hearing about someone being exposed or DXed with it. Many of these diseases have been all but eradicated here but they keep being brought up from down south. As far as the flu vaccine goes there are many variations of the flu and they have to make an educated guess the year before which strain will be the most prominent a year later.
As far as cancer drugs go, these vaccine type procedures are very hopeful for us with cancer. I've had some of the nastiest drugs you can think of over the last year and with out them I'd not be around.
While there may be some that have adverse reactions from the vaccine, think of how many people we would lose to the diseases with out the vaccines. I don't know how old you are or if you have kids but I hope you look at the benefits as well as the things you don't like before you just refuse vaccinations for your kids.
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5/16/2014 7:00pm Edited Date/Time 5/16/2014 7:01pm
I hear only miracles cure cancer (statistically the body can cure itself of cancer.) There still hasn't been a miracle to regrow limbs, but give science..errrr god some time for that one.

On a side note, these anti-vaccination rants are nonsense. Vaccinations are probably the single most contributing factor to modern life expectancy.

I'm not saying the medical system is fine, but I don't think that hating on vaccinations is the key to change whatever may be wrong with the system.

5/16/2014 7:08pm
I hear only miracles cure cancer (statistically the body can cure itself of cancer.) There still hasn't been a miracle to regrow limbs, but give science..errrr...
I hear only miracles cure cancer (statistically the body can cure itself of cancer.) There still hasn't been a miracle to regrow limbs, but give science..errrr god some time for that one.

On a side note, these anti-vaccination rants are nonsense. Vaccinations are probably the single most contributing factor to modern life expectancy.

I'm not saying the medical system is fine, but I don't think that hating on vaccinations is the key to change whatever may be wrong with the system.

Man it's pretty weird how you say you don't believe in God yet you are completely obsessed with him. Really if you didn't believe in God you would be completely indifferent to the idea. Strange.
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5/16/2014 7:49pm
EZZA 95B wrote:
Let me start off by saying, there is nothing funny about Cancer, (my Grandparents on my mum's side passed away from cancer). My dad spent 18...
Let me start off by saying, there is nothing funny about Cancer, (my Grandparents on my mum's side passed away from cancer).
My dad spent 18 years researching Cancer because of crooks like William Lane, (alternative gurus can be dangerous too).
I have some emails from a very prominent researcher at the Mayo Clinic that was involved in a Cancer treatment, trial for Merck. You'd shit bricks if you read what he had to say about the whole Cancer/Pharma industry.

This $hit always cracks me up... Think of the billions in funding that will be lost if they find a cure!

Every time they have a surplus of Vaccines, they miraculously cure Cancer too!

I had a little piece of glass in my foot once and had a Doctor pull it out in 5 seconds.
When I was done he asked me, "when were you last vaccinated"? When I told him to drop it, I looked over at a fridge with Procter and Gamble magnets all over it!Laughing It was like going to buy something and the salesman trying to get you to pay for an extended warranty or some extra features you don't want or need?

Vaccines!!! Every cunt and their dog rushes to have "the jab" at the advice of fuckwits.
Kid next-door got his Flu Shot, and three weeks later was home from school because he had, (you guessed it), the fucking Flu!

They want to stop parents from putting their children in pre-schools if they haven't been vaccinated! If all the other kids had the jab then what's the fucking problem? They should be immune shouldn't they?

Sorry to pick your thread to vent, but this just pissed me off, as it always does... nothing personal.

Big Pharma can eat a fucking dick, that goes for you too M-fucking-Monaco! Don't want the silent P to come after me, hence the initial of the first name.Laughing

Sorry, I had a bone to pick.

My beer is empty... I shall rectify this issue by grabbing another one.Wink

My brother had some paperwork made up in case the doctors put the heavy on him to vaccinate his new born, (both for his daughter and son). It basically stated that if there were any long term effects, it was the Doctors responsibility.

No Vaccine and sure as hell no Signature from old Doc!
Great rant EZZA. I will extend KFP's offer if you're ever in the SoCal. Anyway, I understand the reluctance to trust people in the medical business. However, there has been great strides in the treatment of of many illnesses. I had my own battle with the big C. It's a two part story. My part was that I thought something was wrong and did some research. Then I went to the doctors. When the doctors discovered I had it, , they cured it. There is a huge chasm between where I was and the final diagnosis. I had to do most of the research. Doctors these days suck at that.

My Cousin is dealing with it now. His is terminal. His family has fallen in with the new age alternative shit and they are killing him faster than the cancer. Kaiser seems to be jealous so they are doing what they can to kill him before his family does. He finally got set up with medical pot. It's made a huge difference. We had a great day together yesterday. I don't know what to do.

I cant tell you you're wrong about what you said but I don't think that the vaccination thing is sinister.
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Sorry TM... I didn't want to come across as being insensitive. I know a few of you are going to battle and I hope you all stay positive and strong.

My brothers, sister in-law lost her mum a couple of years ago to Breast Cancer and now she is in the advanced stages of Breast Cancer also, (metastasising everywhere). She was in the clear for a year or 2, had the Mastectomy and now it's not looking good at all.

I imagine I would do anything humanly possible to beat it; But what I don't like is the blatant commercialisation of it... It's always an "us vs them" with complimentary medicine and conventional medicine, just like everything I suppose. How much money do we need to raise for "awareness"?

My dad went through it many times with Oncologists that just do not care to listen, or explore alternative treatments, along with regular treatments in order to give the person suffering—a better chance at survival.

I have a story with an article regarding a close friend of the family who's daughter was diagnosed with a Brain Tumour.
She was 5 years old and was sent home to die, there was nothing more that could be done. The mother couldn't bare the thought of seeing her daughter suffer, so she seriously considered a murder-suicide... There was no hope.

My dad wasn't about to let that happen...

She started an alternative, (I hate that word), treatment along with another round of regular treatments.
They did a scan a few months later, (she had been given a couple of weeks), and the Tumour was almost completely gone!

Do you know what the Oncologist said? The treatment must have worked after all, and what they noticed on the scans was "scar tissue"! Fucken idiot sent the kid home to die then claimed success. Well done.

Jesse is 17 now.Smile

Regarding the Vaccines, I cringe when the resident "medical expert", (a bloody G.P), comes on television in the morning and starts spouting off some scripted shit from a pamphlet that was supplied from the Pharmaceutical company!
Then they organise a debate with the Anti-Vaccine jokers, (yes I said jokers), they argue on breakfast TV until they both look like morans with nobodies best interest at mind or heart.

I could go on, and on, and on... But I won't, because this is not an argument nor is it a debate.

Wishing you guys all the best, keep charging.

Ezza
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5/16/2014 8:14pm
It's not about me, it's about getting people on the fence to swing the way of logic, reasoning, and science. Considering superstitious beliefs are at the core of most peoples thought process, a great deal of problems could be fixed simply by rationality. For example, the political issues alone would be in a much better position for real solutions if politicians were required to be atheists, rather than religious.

Again, your claim of being in tune with the universe is easily debunked. It's people that buy into that bullshit that vote, and they are the majority. Think instead of feel.
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Great rant EZZA. I will extend KFP's offer if you're ever in the SoCal. Anyway, I understand the reluctance to trust people in the medical business...
Great rant EZZA. I will extend KFP's offer if you're ever in the SoCal. Anyway, I understand the reluctance to trust people in the medical business. However, there has been great strides in the treatment of of many illnesses. I had my own battle with the big C. It's a two part story. My part was that I thought something was wrong and did some research. Then I went to the doctors. When the doctors discovered I had it, , they cured it. There is a huge chasm between where I was and the final diagnosis. I had to do most of the research. Doctors these days suck at that.

My Cousin is dealing with it now. His is terminal. His family has fallen in with the new age alternative shit and they are killing him faster than the cancer. Kaiser seems to be jealous so they are doing what they can to kill him before his family does. He finally got set up with medical pot. It's made a huge difference. We had a great day together yesterday. I don't know what to do.

I cant tell you you're wrong about what you said but I don't think that the vaccination thing is sinister.
Ha! Cheers Borg... I'm far removed from any dealings in the industry, (it's bloody brutal), and I agree there's nothing "sinister" about the vaccines. There are many great people looking at new ways of thinking, (Mina Bissell).

I just don't like the fact that people are constantly given a false hope. There's a break-through every bloody, five minutes, but it won't be available for another 10 years. "We need more money"!

But the treatments remain the same and most of the patients are Lab-Rats in their mind.

I watched my neighbour go through it for 3 years, and it started out that he had been given an 80% chance of beating it.
My dad offered to assist, (again, never did my dad discourage conventional treatment), but he was confident he would be okay.

He was deteriorating at a rapid rate and only when they said there was nothing they could do any longer, the search for "alternative treatment" began... Too late.

Why can't everyone work together rather than get defensive and rubbish any attempt at finding a solution?
5/17/2014 10:09am
It's not about me, it's about getting people on the fence to swing the way of logic, reasoning, and science. Considering superstitious beliefs are at the...
It's not about me, it's about getting people on the fence to swing the way of logic, reasoning, and science. Considering superstitious beliefs are at the core of most peoples thought process, a great deal of problems could be fixed simply by rationality. For example, the political issues alone would be in a much better position for real solutions if politicians were required to be atheists, rather than religious.

Again, your claim of being in tune with the universe is easily debunked. It's people that buy into that bullshit that vote, and they are the majority. Think instead of feel.
Except that has nothing to do with this thread and your view that things would be better if politicians were required to be atheists is about as ridiculous of thing I have ever heard from you. As far as "thinking instead of feeling". There are three aspects to the mind the emotional mind on one end and the rational mind on the other. In the middle is the mind of wisdom.



Though you think you view things from the rational side, actually everything I have ever seen you write in here concerning God , and other aspects of life outside of our normal senses , is through the emotional side. The thing is neither extreme is a healthy place to be. Wisdom is the key to viewing the world in proper perspective.

As far as vaccines go, though I don't trust Pharma much vaccines are vital to good health. It is more than just how they affect personal health but more importantly public health. For example the Flu Vaccine will probably prevent you from getting the flu, but maybe not, but it will almost certainly keep the flu virus from spreading throughout a population if everybody got the vaccine. So, I do agree with you on vaccines, strange to say that but totally do.
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5/17/2014 11:54am
EZZA 95B wrote:
Sorry TM... I didn't want to come across as being insensitive. I know a few of you are going to battle and I hope you all...
Sorry TM... I didn't want to come across as being insensitive. I know a few of you are going to battle and I hope you all stay positive and strong.

My brothers, sister in-law lost her mum a couple of years ago to Breast Cancer and now she is in the advanced stages of Breast Cancer also, (metastasising everywhere). She was in the clear for a year or 2, had the Mastectomy and now it's not looking good at all.

I imagine I would do anything humanly possible to beat it; But what I don't like is the blatant commercialisation of it... It's always an "us vs them" with complimentary medicine and conventional medicine, just like everything I suppose. How much money do we need to raise for "awareness"?

My dad went through it many times with Oncologists that just do not care to listen, or explore alternative treatments, along with regular treatments in order to give the person suffering—a better chance at survival.

I have a story with an article regarding a close friend of the family who's daughter was diagnosed with a Brain Tumour.
She was 5 years old and was sent home to die, there was nothing more that could be done. The mother couldn't bare the thought of seeing her daughter suffer, so she seriously considered a murder-suicide... There was no hope.

My dad wasn't about to let that happen...

She started an alternative, (I hate that word), treatment along with another round of regular treatments.
They did a scan a few months later, (she had been given a couple of weeks), and the Tumour was almost completely gone!

Do you know what the Oncologist said? The treatment must have worked after all, and what they noticed on the scans was "scar tissue"! Fucken idiot sent the kid home to die then claimed success. Well done.

Jesse is 17 now.Smile

Regarding the Vaccines, I cringe when the resident "medical expert", (a bloody G.P), comes on television in the morning and starts spouting off some scripted shit from a pamphlet that was supplied from the Pharmaceutical company!
Then they organise a debate with the Anti-Vaccine jokers, (yes I said jokers), they argue on breakfast TV until they both look like morans with nobodies best interest at mind or heart.

I could go on, and on, and on... But I won't, because this is not an argument nor is it a debate.

Wishing you guys all the best, keep charging.

Ezza
Ezza, no offense taken. I understand your point of view (although I don't agree with it), my son shares your views.
My only point is that to just make a blanket denial of anything good from modern medicine and vaccines is going to
deprive you of something that might save your life. I know that there are thousands of people riding at mx tracks
today having a great time. I also know that the stories of the crashes are the ones that will get circulated.
If I only went by those stories I'd never want to ride again.
And yes there are plenty of "bad" doctors out there to give credibility to your views.
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Ezza, no offense taken. I understand your point of view (although I don't agree with it), my son shares your views. My only point is that...
Ezza, no offense taken. I understand your point of view (although I don't agree with it), my son shares your views.
My only point is that to just make a blanket denial of anything good from modern medicine and vaccines is going to
deprive you of something that might save your life. I know that there are thousands of people riding at mx tracks
today having a great time. I also know that the stories of the crashes are the ones that will get circulated.
If I only went by those stories I'd never want to ride again.
And yes there are plenty of "bad" doctors out there to give credibility to your views.
TM
The C word is nothing to make light of and I hope any treatment is successful—conventional or not.

As I'm writing this I'm watching breakfast TV and they're interviewing the doctor from the Mayo Clinic regarding their new discovery... It's the same old drivel.Sad Profundity through obfuscation.

Again, all the best and keep charging.Smile Wink
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5/17/2014 7:20pm Edited Date/Time 5/17/2014 7:26pm
There is no wisdom in believing in an invisible man in the sky, and especially none in declaring yourself as something special for making (very few) close guesses (not even correct.)

Your graph doesn't apply to superstition, and judging by your response...you fit in well on the emotional side of things. I was merely pointing out that politicians are practically required to be superstitious in this country and if it were the other way around, they would make much better decisions. Obviously, your overly emotional mind could only interpret that as some type of hard line, rather than a speculative analysis on the situation.
5/17/2014 7:33pm
There is no wisdom in believing in an invisible man in the sky, and especially none in declaring yourself as something special for making (very few)...
There is no wisdom in believing in an invisible man in the sky, and especially none in declaring yourself as something special for making (very few) close guesses (not even correct.)

Your graph doesn't apply to superstition, and judging by your response...you fit in well on the emotional side of things. I was merely pointing out that politicians are practically required to be superstitious in this country and if it were the other way around, they would make much better decisions. Obviously, your overly emotional mind could only interpret that as some type of hard line, rather than a speculative analysis on the situation.
You must read books written by Carl Sagan.

I do.
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I hate cancer I have helped a few people with this shit and I was glad I could help make them more comfortable during their battle. If anyone out there needs help locating some good natural meds let me know. Tommysanfilippo@hotmail.com

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