Is this true? (gun bill)

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Edited Date/Time 1/21/2012 9:46am
Verified true on Snopes http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/blairholt.asp


Gun owners.... Look what's on the 2010 tax return....


If you have a gun, I hope it isn't registered!

It begins... More Freedom gone.... The right to protect yourself and your family gone! Now ALL GUNS must be listed on your next (2010) tax return!




Senate Bill SB-2099 will require us to put on our 2009 1040 federal tax form all guns that you have or own. It will require fingerprints and a tax of $50 per gun. This bill was introduced on February 24, 2009, by the Obama staff. BUT, this bill will only become public knowledge 30 days after the new law becomes effective! This is an amendment to the Internal Revenue Act of 1986. This means that the Finance Committee has passed this without the Senate voting on it at all. Trust Obama? You must be kidding!

The full text of the IRS amendment is on the U.S. Senate homepage: www.senate.gov. You can find the bill by doing a search by the bill number, SB-2099. You know who to call; I strongly suggest you do.

Please send a copy of this e-mail to every gun owner you know.

Text of H.R.45 as Introduced in House: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009: www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text
Obama's Congress is now starting on the firearms confiscation bill. If it passes, gun owners will become criminals if you don't fully comply.

It has begun... Whatever Obama's "Secret Master Plan" is... This is just the 'tip of the iceberg!'

Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the House. This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act of 2009.

Even gun shop owners didn't know about this because the government is trying to fly it under the radar as a 'minor' IRS revision, and, as usual, the 'political' lawmakers did not read this bill before signing and approving it!

To find out about this - go to any government website and type in HR 45 or Goggle HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the information.

Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless: 1) It is registered 2) You are fingerprinted 3) You supply a current Driver's License 4) You supply your Social Security number 5) You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing. Each update change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25. Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail.

There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child under 18. They would have the right to come and inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to 5 years in prison.

If you think this is a joke - go to the website and take your pick of many options to read this.. It is long and lengthy. But, more and more people are becoming aware of this. Pass the word along. Any hunters in your family pass this along. This is just a "termite" approach to complete confiscation of guns and disarming of our society to the point we have no defense - chip away a little here and there until the goal is accomplished before anyone realizes it.

This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not..

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Please..... Copy and send this out to EVERYONE in the USA , whether you support the Right to Bear Arms or are for gun control.. We all should have the RIGHT TO CHOOSE!





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The text you posted is taking pieces of information from two totally unrelated bills proposed a decade apart.

SB2099 was proposed in Feb of 2000.

The Blair Holt bill is totally different.

Anyway, the text you posted is pretty much fake for both the bill that was proposed a decade ago and died, and the current Blair Holt bill.
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It has begun... Whatever Obama's "Secret Master Plan" is... This is just the 'tip of the iceberg!'

Nothing to do with Obama.

Also, snopes said 'partially true' for various reasons, and those reasons are key to understanding that this is a lot to do about nothing.

It has also been brought up on this forum before, maybe even back in motodrive days.

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That could've easily been figured out with a quick Google search on your own instead of asking the board.

But let me give you a heads-up: If you get the info in a chain email, chances are very, very good (probably 95% or better) that it's complete bullshit.
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That stupid chain mail pops it's head up every 6 months or so and it's the same bullshit now as it was the last time it came up.

It has ZERO CO-SPONSORS...none, zip, nada
It has ZERO SUPPORT, from anyone on any side
Was introduced by Rep Bobby Rush before Obama was even elected

and any dumbass can introduce any bill for any dumbass thing, and just because some dumbass introduces some dumbass bill does not mean it will ever see the House or Senate floor.

This was dead on introduction and still remains dead

Damn those facts and actually doing research


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i never suggested it was true...nor did i care enough to research it.
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ominous?
The only original text is the title...if it scared you, i apologize.

Why? Bored.
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bsm121 wrote:
i never suggested it was true...nor did i care enough to research it.
Then why fuckin post it?

Shit, why not also post up shit about the Loch Ness Monster, Bigfoot and the existence of vampires since you don't give a shit about posting anything real or to be bothered with doing any research?
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He cast a bait, the usual fish bit at it.
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bsm121 wrote:
i never suggested it was true...nor did i care enough to research it.
flarider wrote:
Then why fuckin post it? Shit, why not also post up shit about the Loch Ness Monster, Bigfoot and the existence of vampires since you don't...
Then why fuckin post it?

Shit, why not also post up shit about the Loch Ness Monster, Bigfoot and the existence of vampires since you don't give a shit about posting anything real or to be bothered with doing any research?
well...maybe if i get an e-mail about the loch ness monster, i will.

there's doesn't appear to be a shortage of geniuses here...i figured this would be faster...and more amusing.
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Just proves who gives a shit about the Country and who doesn't




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caught?
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flarider wrote:
Just proves who gives a shit about the Country and who doesn't




that's quite a stretch....
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flarider wrote:
Just proves who gives a shit about the Country and who doesn't




bsm121 wrote:
that's quite a stretch....
No, it's not

People who spread lies about their country obviously don't give a shit about it

Period
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flarider wrote:
No, it's not

People who spread lies about their country obviously don't give a shit about it

Period
again...quite a stretch.

posting a chain e-mail on a moto site isn't "spreading lies".

i'll save you the trouble of starting at the top of the page.

the title read, "is this true"?

note the question mark...
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You didn't care enough to do your own research, you just preferred to perpetuate the lie.





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flarider wrote:
You didn't care enough to do your own research, you just preferred to perpetuate the lie.





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again...show me where i "perpetuated the lie". i neither suggested it was true nor requested anyone to act on the information (other than to verify it's validity).
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You don't care enough to even do the research

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bsm121 wrote:
well...maybe if i get an e-mail about the loch ness monster, i will. there's doesn't appear to be a shortage of geniuses here...i figured this would...
well...maybe if i get an e-mail about the loch ness monster, i will.

there's doesn't appear to be a shortage of geniuses here...i figured this would be faster...and more amusing.
...
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I think he's smart enough and been around here long enough to know that the chain mail is likely 90 to 100% bullshit.

I also think he knew exactly what the responses would be.

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txmxer wrote:
I think he's smart enough and been around here long enough to know that the chain mail is likely 90 to 100% bullshit. I also think...
I think he's smart enough and been around here long enough to know that the chain mail is likely 90 to 100% bullshit.

I also think he knew exactly what the responses would be.

Yup
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flarider wrote:
No, it's not

People who spread lies about their country obviously don't give a shit about it

Period
bsm121 wrote:
again...quite a stretch. posting a chain e-mail on a moto site isn't "spreading lies". i'll save you the trouble of starting at the top of the...
again...quite a stretch.

posting a chain e-mail on a moto site isn't "spreading lies".

i'll save you the trouble of starting at the top of the page.

the title read, "is this true"?

note the question mark...
Your first line:

Verified true on Snopes .....
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I bet dave gets a boner with threads like this...
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indy_maico wrote:
Your first line:

Verified true on Snopes .....
my first, and only line, was the title...
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huck wrote:
I bet dave gets a boner with threads like this...
Not really, they depress me.
They depress me because they show the general laziness of people and the lack of care they have for facts or their country.
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dave,
do you see the hypocrisy in being the person that responds to/researches every post, yet getting "depressed" when someone actually asks you to do so?

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dave,
do you see the hypocrisy in being the person that responds to/researches every post, yet getting "depressed" when someone actually asks you to do so?

No, I don't, because I or anyone should have to correct the lies people spread
People should verify stories for themselves.

The fact that you don't give a shit enough to verify something is depressing
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11/24/2010 2:17pm Edited Date/Time 11/24/2010 2:17pm
so you prefer to chime in only on an unsolicited basis...got it.



and, if i didn't give a shit, i wouldn't have asked.
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bsm121 wrote:
Verified true on Snopes http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/blairholt.asp Gun owners.... Look what's on the 2010 tax return.... If you have a gun, I hope it isn't registered! It begins...
Verified true on Snopes http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/blairholt.asp


Gun owners.... Look what's on the 2010 tax return....


If you have a gun, I hope it isn't registered!

It begins... More Freedom gone.... The right to protect yourself and your family gone! Now ALL GUNS must be listed on your next (2010) tax return!




Senate Bill SB-2099 will require us to put on our 2009 1040 federal tax form all guns that you have or own. It will require fingerprints and a tax of $50 per gun. This bill was introduced on February 24, 2009, by the Obama staff. BUT, this bill will only become public knowledge 30 days after the new law becomes effective! This is an amendment to the Internal Revenue Act of 1986. This means that the Finance Committee has passed this without the Senate voting on it at all. Trust Obama? You must be kidding!

The full text of the IRS amendment is on the U.S. Senate homepage: www.senate.gov. You can find the bill by doing a search by the bill number, SB-2099. You know who to call; I strongly suggest you do.

Please send a copy of this e-mail to every gun owner you know.

Text of H.R.45 as Introduced in House: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009: www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text
Obama's Congress is now starting on the firearms confiscation bill. If it passes, gun owners will become criminals if you don't fully comply.

It has begun... Whatever Obama's "Secret Master Plan" is... This is just the 'tip of the iceberg!'

Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the House. This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act of 2009.

Even gun shop owners didn't know about this because the government is trying to fly it under the radar as a 'minor' IRS revision, and, as usual, the 'political' lawmakers did not read this bill before signing and approving it!

To find out about this - go to any government website and type in HR 45 or Goggle HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the information.

Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless: 1) It is registered 2) You are fingerprinted 3) You supply a current Driver's License 4) You supply your Social Security number 5) You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing. Each update change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25. Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail.

There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child under 18. They would have the right to come and inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to 5 years in prison.

If you think this is a joke - go to the website and take your pick of many options to read this.. It is long and lengthy. But, more and more people are becoming aware of this. Pass the word along. Any hunters in your family pass this along. This is just a "termite" approach to complete confiscation of guns and disarming of our society to the point we have no defense - chip away a little here and there until the goal is accomplished before anyone realizes it.

This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not..

:





Please..... Copy and send this out to EVERYONE in the USA , whether you support the Right to Bear Arms or are for gun control.. We all should have the RIGHT TO CHOOSE!





Why use a handicapped child in a thread to try and be cute. Your shits not funny if you intended it to be. According to some of your comments I`ve read you seem to be more like Cheney than anyone.

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