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They have been fracking the heck out of Pennsylvania wonder if there is a connection with the quakes in Northern Virginia
U.S. Government Confirms Link Between Earthquakes and Hydraulic Fracturing
"On 5 November an earthquake measuring 5.6 rattled Oklahoma and was felt as far away as Illinois.
Until two years ago Oklahoma typically had about 50 earthquakes a year, but in 2010, 1,047 quakes shook the state.
Why?
In Lincoln County, where most of this past weekend's seismic incidents were centered, there are 181 injection wells, according to Matt Skinner, an official from the Oklahoma Corporation Commission, the agency which oversees oil and gas production in the state."
U.S. Government Confirms Link Between Earthquakes and Hydraulic Fracturing
"On 5 November an earthquake measuring 5.6 rattled Oklahoma and was felt as far away as Illinois.
Until two years ago Oklahoma typically had about 50 earthquakes a year, but in 2010, 1,047 quakes shook the state.
Why?
In Lincoln County, where most of this past weekend's seismic incidents were centered, there are 181 injection wells, according to Matt Skinner, an official from the Oklahoma Corporation Commission, the agency which oversees oil and gas production in the state."
As far as the earthquakes, it sounds a little fishy to me. Correlation is not causation.
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The environmentalists have already showed the downside of fracking but they're just like gnats that get swatted away. Much better to have jobs that result in pollution and harm to local residents than to support Obama's job bill anyway, eh?
The earth has been here for a dozen yrs, people been walking the earth for .0000001 of that time but when something goes down it's always the latest craze fault.
I know, I know... I need to go hug a tree
Besides only the devil knows what goes on downhole past a wellhead anyway.
Scary stuff..
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http://rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=112543&hmpn=1
A non industry sponsored article
Just compare 2 different parts of the country for a minute:
North Dakota - Montana
Resource development allowed and encouraged
Very low unemployment, high wages ($25/ hour to work at Wendy's), budget surpluses, affordable (ie. not deficit financed) investments in roads, schools, utilities, stable home prices, productive high paying jobs for young people, general prosperity.
Eastern United States and California
Resource development discouraged by increased regulation, litigation and over zealous environmental lobbying.
Highest unemployment in the country, only jobs available are low paying, gigantic municipal, city and state debts (operating budgets and especially public pensions), budget cuts to all services (but never to government salaries), rampant forclosures, sky high youth unemployment, general economic misery.
A certain part of the country sure seems hell bent on holding up a prosperous industry.
People in North Dakota, Texas and Canada care about their local water and environment too. Oil/gas extraction and mining are done there in an environmentally responsible way. It's not causing earthquakes there either...
Fracking fluid can only enter a groundwater reservoir if the surface casing / cement job is grossly negligent. It cannot go vertically upwards through miles of impermeable rock.
For those who dismiss everything that comes from someone connected with the oil & gas industry (I wonder if they might know something about oil & gas?), consider any potential bias or conflict of interest contained in reports from government and environmental groups.
There are literally tens of thousands of environmental groups in the US. Why? Don't they all have the same goal, to "protect" the environment? Would it not be more useful if some of them joined forces and combined their resources and support base to make a greater impact?
Truth is, in the last 25 years, environmental groups have proven a very lucrative financial operation. Everyone cares about the environment, donations are easy to get and money for "research" from governments is going to such a noble cause. Heck, you can even pay yourself or friends, wife, family members, etc. a large salary to operate the "charity" and use benefits in the tax code to have a lot of nice "assets".
Some environmental groups have done great things to advance the debate on important issues but the line between them and quasi-militant cronies has been extremely blurred. There is a huge financial incentive for environmentalists to sensationalize and perpetuate any type of remotely environmental issues (real, exaggerated or completely imagined). It's all they know and their existence depends on it.
There is deception on both sides of resource development, but the truth is not in the middle. On a sliding scale it's about 85% to the industry side and 15% to the environmentalists argument side.
This may be true, but it is misleading - because many of the wells in Pennsylvania are not "miles" deep. Many of those wells are a few thousand feet deep. That's a big difference. And it's not certain exactly how the strata communicates underground, there's absolutely NO way to be certain exactly how the shale fractures when the fracking operation is performed, and therefore there's no way that anyone can be certain whether fracking fluid or natural gas can enter ground water or not. And most of those shallower wells are not drilled and completed by the majors, they're done by smaller companies that have traditionally been "cowboy" operations and are generally regarded as less responsible than the big companies.
I've worked in the energy business most of my life - over 30 years - in every aspect from exploration to power production, and I have no confidence that a pure exploration company won't rely on widely-held assumptions that have no real scientific data to support them.
The problem is, you can't be right 85% of the time. You have to be right 100% of the time. You CANNOT allow fracking fluids or natural gas to enter groundwater that is used for drinking water. You can NEVER do that, no matter what. And I think there's abundant evidence that those explorations companies aren't 100% successful.
I think they can be 100% successful, but if you're wrong once and you contaminate drinking water once, you are killing the goose that laid the golden egg.
As far as comparing shale gas operations in Texas to Pennsylvania and trying to blame environmentalists for unemployment in the Northeast, that's total propaganda bullshit. Texas wells are much deeper than the ones that are causing trouble in Pennsylvania, and are therefore MUCH less likely to pollute ground water with fracking fluid. Keep the right wing kook propaganda out of the argument - it's difficult enough just working with the facts.
The $25 dollar number at Wendy's is exaggerated, and we are in a shit economy today because we sold our souls for good times like they are having in, not only North Dakota, but in Midland and Odessa TX.
Oil, natural gas, who cares. Nothing is more important than clean water.
And according to a youtube video I watched the other day the local strippers in ND are making $4000 a night! Holy crap that is insane.
And Jim times are not all that prosperous in Midland and Odessa my whole family lives there while it is good, its nothing like the late 70's early 80's in the region.
I heard it again from an oil and gas attorney from Midland on Thursday, at Dallas Luv Field.
Maybe they are lying. I have no idea, since it's not in an area that I am ever around.
And its odd someone said that about rooms because I got a room 2 days before flying to Midland on Memorial day for my daughter and myself.
Maybe it has multiplied exponentially since then who knows I have not been back so maybe I am lying now.
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