Car charging question?

JOE_SPROCKETS#1
Edited Date/Time 5/23/2022 10:57pm
ok,

i know driving distance is a huge issue with (EV)

let it be known i have no idea how this tech works but i had a stupid thought, (not sure if its even possible)...

they make wireless chargers for devices now days

Could this eventually lead to a way to charge (EV) while your driving? incorporate the tech into the paved high way roads or even on the side markers on highways that way as you drive it is charging at the same time? i would imagine it would not keep a full charge with the battery but could add miles per trip to it?
1
|
SEEMEFIRST
Profile picture for user SEEMEFIRST
Posts
11529
Joined
8/21/2006
Location
Arlington, TX US
SEEMEFIRST 5/23/2022 8:21am
5/23/2022 8:21am
Well first off a phone charges at about .5 amp, and a car charger is around 40-50 amps.
kdizzle_rider 5/23/2022 8:27am
5/23/2022 8:27am
Need some type of inductive charging built into the roads so the cars can charge while they drive.
1
Falcon
Profile picture for user Falcon
Posts
10828
Joined
11/16/2011
Location
Menifee, CA US
Fantasy
407th
Falcon 5/23/2022 8:40am
5/23/2022 8:40am
It's not the worst idea ever. In fact, it wouldn't be too difficult; just create a small magnetic field around the roadway somehow (magnets, maybe?) The motion of the induction charger onboard the car through this field would create a current.
Of course, the flip side would be that we'd be saddled with more taxes to pay for it.
1
1

The Shop

See All »
JOE_SPROCKETS#1 5/23/2022 8:42am
5/23/2022 8:42am
kdizzle_rider wrote:
Need some type of inductive charging built into the roads so the cars can charge while they drive.
this is kind of my thought process...
1
profeshenal125 5/23/2022 8:57am
5/23/2022 8:57am
Maybe harness the energy of the wheels going around. I put my vehicle in neutral at stop lights you burn less gas. Get the tire pressure up . Throw some under drive pulleys on, spacers for injection system, hotter coil, tune up, play with timing , port the intake, kn, free flow muffler, wax entire vehicle including the roof, rain x the windows, install
New wheel bearings. I got 29 mpg with a g20 Chevy van running non ethanol gas in a 30 mph wind driving 75.
3
2
early
Profile picture for user early
Posts
8722
Joined
2/13/2013
Location
University Heights, OH US
Fantasy
2444th
early 5/23/2022 8:59am
5/23/2022 8:59am Edited Date/Time 5/23/2022 10:42am
Possible, yes. Probable, maybe. I could see this in parking spaces instead of on the road, so you pick up a charge when parked easier than having plug in stations.
Edit: current wireless charging systems require <10 inches between the charger and battery which would be tricky in the road.
https://tec.ieee.org/newsletter/february-2014/wirelessly-charge-electri…

https://www.ttnews.com/articles/first-us-mile-wireless-ev-charging-road…
1
charlie68
Profile picture for user charlie68
Posts
156
Joined
6/28/2019
Location
North Windham, CT US
charlie68 5/23/2022 9:51am
5/23/2022 9:51am
I have always wondered why are these electric shitboxes not covered with solar panels, let the car owner pay for the charging and not everyone else.
7
ninety3
Profile picture for user ninety3
Posts
1177
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
Saddleback Park, CA US
ninety3 5/23/2022 10:17am
5/23/2022 10:17am
charlie68 wrote:
I have always wondered why are these electric shitboxes not covered with solar panels, let the car owner pay for the charging and not everyone else.
Likely due to most EV's have rather large batteries that would take weeks, or longer to charge via solar panels

Although here is one mfg that have a unique hi-tech lightweight 3 wheel EV
1
1
APLMAN99
Profile picture for user APLMAN99
Posts
10725
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Dallas, TX US
APLMAN99 5/23/2022 10:37am
5/23/2022 10:37am
JOE_SPROCKETS#1 wrote:
ok, i know driving distance is a huge issue with (EV) let it be known i have no idea how this tech works but i had...
ok,

i know driving distance is a huge issue with (EV)

let it be known i have no idea how this tech works but i had a stupid thought, (not sure if its even possible)...

they make wireless chargers for devices now days

Could this eventually lead to a way to charge (EV) while your driving? incorporate the tech into the paved high way roads or even on the side markers on highways that way as you drive it is charging at the same time? i would imagine it would not keep a full charge with the battery but could add miles per trip to it?
This is already being tried in small test areas, not sure what sort of results that they are having just yet, though.

What I think would/should be the next 'breakthrough' would be to incorporate a battery back under the floor of dry vans that would work to increase the range of a semi. Use the battery power of the tractor unit along with the trailer unit to to get into the 4 digit ranges, and that really makes them a lot more feasible.
1
5
Zycki11
Profile picture for user Zycki11
Posts
6838
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Ankeny, IA US
Zycki11 5/23/2022 10:51am
5/23/2022 10:51am
Ford has bought stretches of highway just for this reason. Placing more charging ports in parking areas won’t be the long term answer. This places too much strain on the power grids with some areas already over worked. I’d say we see some form of mobile battery pack charging boost for an extra 100 miles or so. In the end I think the roads will play into constant recharging down the road. Or we develop better battery technology
1
1
tunedlength
Profile picture for user tunedlength
Posts
2746
Joined
12/9/2006
Location
Ontario, CA US
tunedlength 5/23/2022 11:21am
5/23/2022 11:21am
wireless (at this time) charging uses 20-30% more energy compared to direct connection.
1
JOE_SPROCKETS#1 5/23/2022 11:52am
5/23/2022 11:52am
thanks for all the info guys, if this tech works maybe it could be implemented into the mx track as well to keep the bikes charged?
ninety3
Profile picture for user ninety3
Posts
1177
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
Saddleback Park, CA US
ninety3 5/23/2022 6:55pm
5/23/2022 6:55pm
tunedlength wrote:
wireless (at this time) charging uses 20-30% more energy compared to direct connection.
Yes, but during testing it seems that wired charging is no more efficient
Interesting avenue of development for sure
1
SEEMEFIRST
Profile picture for user SEEMEFIRST
Posts
11529
Joined
8/21/2006
Location
Arlington, TX US
SEEMEFIRST 5/23/2022 7:43pm
5/23/2022 7:43pm
Still have to power it, and does it just stay running all the time?
profeshenal125 5/23/2022 7:56pm
5/23/2022 7:56pm
JOE_SPROCKETS#1 wrote:
ok, i know driving distance is a huge issue with (EV) let it be known i have no idea how this tech works but i had...
ok,

i know driving distance is a huge issue with (EV)

let it be known i have no idea how this tech works but i had a stupid thought, (not sure if its even possible)...

they make wireless chargers for devices now days

Could this eventually lead to a way to charge (EV) while your driving? incorporate the tech into the paved high way roads or even on the side markers on highways that way as you drive it is charging at the same time? i would imagine it would not keep a full charge with the battery but could add miles per trip to it?
APLMAN99 wrote:
This is already being tried in small test areas, not sure what sort of results that they are having just yet, though. What I think would/should...
This is already being tried in small test areas, not sure what sort of results that they are having just yet, though.

What I think would/should be the next 'breakthrough' would be to incorporate a battery back under the floor of dry vans that would work to increase the range of a semi. Use the battery power of the tractor unit along with the trailer unit to to get into the 4 digit ranges, and that really makes them a lot more feasible.
The batteries under the trailer would fall from the impact of hitting all the potholes and if that don’t do it the forklift operator will knock some more off. The roads r a disaster. I don’t see a road side charging system happening. How would that work when it’s covered in 4 feet of snow. The largest electric charging system is at a flying j in Pecus Texas. Where enough oil to power the world for 10,000 yrs is.
2
ninety3
Profile picture for user ninety3
Posts
1177
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
Saddleback Park, CA US
ninety3 5/23/2022 10:57pm
5/23/2022 10:57pm
profeshenal125 wrote:
The batteries under the trailer would fall from the impact of hitting all the potholes and if that don’t do it the forklift operator will knock...
The batteries under the trailer would fall from the impact of hitting all the potholes and if that don’t do it the forklift operator will knock some more off. The roads r a disaster. I don’t see a road side charging system happening. How would that work when it’s covered in 4 feet of snow. The largest electric charging system is at a flying j in Pecus Texas. Where enough oil to power the world for 10,000 yrs is.
It does work in snow, don't know about the rest
1

Post a reply to: Car charging question?