Aloha Airlines has folded...

Edited Date/Time 1/24/2012 2:18pm
Aloha Airlines shutting down; Monday last day of operationsle


Aloha Airlines announced today that it will be shutting its inter-island and trans-Pacific passenger flight operations. Aloha's last day of operations will be Monday

On that day Aloha will operate its schedule with the exception of flights from Hawaii to the West Coast and flights from Orange County to Reno and Sacramento and Oakland to Las Vegas.

Effective immediately, Aloha will stop selling tickets for travel beyond tomorrow.

The shutdown will affect about 1,800 employees.

"This is an incredibly dark day for Hawaii," said David Benmiller, Aloha's president and chief executive officer. "Despite the groundswell of support from the community and our elected officials, we simply ran out of time to find a qualified buyer or secure continued financing for our passenger business. We had no choice but to take this action."
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3/30/2008 4:07pm
I honestly don't know how ANY airlines can be in business.
3/30/2008 4:13pm
Someone is always willing to operate in the red.

until this ends ticket prices will stay low and costs will remain high.

I was reading an email from my company, for every .01 increase in fuel is nearly 20 million extra dollars spent annually. And this only includes airplanes, not trucks, and GSE..
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3/30/2008 4:15pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:29pm
[quote="Spinner":1ubqbw68]I honestly don't know how ANY airlines can be in business.[/quote:1ubqbw68]
I agree
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3/30/2008 4:21pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:29pm
[quote="rightseat":1z9yvdfj]Someone is always willing to operate in the red.

until this ends ticket prices will stay low and costs will remain high.

I was reading an email from my company, for every .01 increase in fuel is nearly 20 million extra dollars spent annually. And this only includes airplanes, not trucks, and GSE..[/quote:1z9yvdfj]

I'd like to see your company's monthly fuel bill just for their ground operations. JB Hunt's is between 1.3 and 1.5 million daily and that's from a very good source in their offices.

The Shop

3/30/2008 4:27pm
I feel that if the airlines would put a restricton on the amount you can carry on to a small duffel bag for each person.

That would mean alot lighter plane loads, which would mean more fuel economy, less baggage handlers.
Less time to check in, which would mean alot less overhead .

Most/All people carry to much stuff when flying and it bogs down the system, there should be a small limit you can bring and that's it, keep flying simple and if you don't like it too bad don't fly.
3/30/2008 4:45pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:29pm
Airlines could make a killing if they charged what it REALLY cost to move your seat from A to B. Cheating pilots, mechanics, and gate agents out of industry standard wages is no way to run an airline.

The problem is airlines like SWA, JB, SkyBus and other LCC's are always willing to charge less. In the case of SWA, hedged fuel (till'09), and an operation that runs like a swiss watch make it possible to charge less.

Airlines like JB, Airtran, and Virgin America use cheap labor, back-end aircraft leasing, and a few other tricks to keep costs down.

Things like "banning" checked bags won't work, some other airline will always be willing to let you bring your 75-lb Cooler filled with clothes.. (SLC flights,,,coughcough)
3/30/2008 5:01pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:29pm
[quote="oldfart":r5i7ol5i]It's a business, like any other, and the goal is to make money for the shareholders. I doubt any of the airlines holds a gun to anyone's head and forces them to work there.[/quote:r5i7ol5i]
Yep, all the airlines should close up shop. This would make the US a better place.
3/30/2008 5:19pm
Airlines can afford to pay it's employees standard wages, you'd just have to pay (gassssssp) what it cost them to move that seat!

No more $99 transcons....



Could you imagine the US economy if all airlines operating in the red ceased operations?

Something this important needs government stability.
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3/30/2008 5:27pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:29pm
[quote="jtomasik":d8bmpdxn]Think of how much fuel they'd save if they didn't let fat people fly.[/quote:d8bmpdxn]
Why do you hate Dave?
3/30/2008 5:36pm
Exactly, the health of the airline industry is dependent on oil. I don't see oil becoming regulated any time soon, so why not assist the airlines?

I don't work for a passenger carrier anymore, it doesn't affect me personally. I work for a company who can charge more when costs rise without fear of having it's neck slashed.

You live in Nevada right? What would life be like if 80% of flights into McCarren ceased existence. That's pretty close-to-the ol' backyard if I may say so myself.
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3/30/2008 5:52pm
You can all thank Frank Lorenzo, George Bush Sr., Frank Borman and other well placed Texas businessmen for the state of the airline business in the US.
3/30/2008 5:58pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:29pm
[quote="Spinner":109mi3zd][quote="rightseat":109mi3zd]Someone is always willing to operate in the red.

until this ends ticket prices will stay low and costs will remain high.

I was reading an email from my company, for every .01 increase in fuel is nearly 20 million extra dollars spent annually. And this only includes airplanes, not trucks, and GSE..[/quote:109mi3zd]

I'd like to see your company's monthly fuel bill just for their ground operations. JB Hunt's is between 1.3 and 1.5 million monthly and that's from a very good source in their offices.[/quote:109mi3zd]

JB Hunts fuel costs have got to be a LOT higher than that......

I'd say 20-25 Million per month, maybe more......
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3/30/2008 6:07pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:29pm
[attachment=0:18gxqrq7]Braniff-Airways-Manhattan-New-York-Print-C10096071.jpeg[/attachment:18gxqrq7]
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3/30/2008 6:13pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:29pm
[quote="APLMAN":1qwrkabz][quote="Spinner":1qwrkabz][quote="rightseat":1qwrkabz]Someone is always willing to operate in the red.

until this ends ticket prices will stay low and costs will remain high.

I was reading an email from my company, for every .01 increase in fuel is nearly 20 million extra dollars spent annually. And this only includes airplanes, not trucks, and GSE..[/quote:1qwrkabz]

I'd like to see your company's monthly fuel bill just for their ground operations. JB Hunt's is between 1.3 and 1.5 million monthly and that's from a very good source in their offices.[/quote:1qwrkabz]

JB Hunts fuel costs have got to be a LOT higher than that......

I'd say 20-25 Million per month, maybe more......[/quote:1qwrkabz]

My bad, meant to say daily.
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3/30/2008 6:31pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:29pm
[quote="Spinner":2gu7n0ps]I honestly don't know how ANY airlines can be in business.[/quote:2gu7n0ps]


they should sell their products so as to show a profit
3/30/2008 8:55pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:29pm
[quote="Larry":2btw8b5c]You can all thank Frank Lorenzo, George Bush Sr., Frank Borman and other well placed Texas businessmen for the state of the airline business in the US.[/quote:2btw8b5c] Leo Mullen
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3/30/2008 10:52pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:29pm
[quote="rightseat":1cn3uryi][quote="Larry":1cn3uryi]You can all thank Frank Lorenzo, George Bush Sr., Frank Borman and other well placed Texas businessmen for the state of the airline business in the US.[/quote:1cn3uryi] Leo Mullen[/quote:1cn3uryi]

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3/30/2008 11:47pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:29pm
[quote="rightseat":26nzmaam]Exactly, the health of the airline industry is dependent on oil. I don't see oil becoming regulated any time soon, so why not assist the airlines? [/quote:26nzmaam]

OMG...
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3/30/2008 11:49pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:29pm
[quote="Tiki":2rofiost][attachment=0:2rofiost]Braniff-Airways-Manhattan-New-York-Print-C10096071.jpeg[/attachment:2rofiost][/quote:2rofiost]


My mom worked for Braniff when I was a little kid.
Nice pic.
I plan on sending it to her.
3/31/2008 6:02pm
one of the ladys in the office at my work is going to hawaii. they were going to fly aloha airlines between islands, she did not believe me till i showed her this thread. called her travel agent they did not even know it yet. go figure. told her they could fly on the manum pi coptor.

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