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2/15/2014 10:37am
Im not surprised
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2/15/2014 10:46am
What an indictment of the American school system. Unbelievable.
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2/15/2014 10:55am Edited Date/Time 2/15/2014 10:55am
And 4 out of 5 Brit's don't know what a toothbrush is.

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Americans actually did better than most on that question if you look at the PDF that the article is based off of. In fact they did much better than Europeans. In fact most Americans know that George Bush's monkeys didn't bring down the WTC with Thermite on 9/11. Smile

http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/seind14/content/chapter-7/c07.pdf

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rebus wrote:
Americans actually did better than most on that question if you look at the PDF that the article is based off of. In fact they did...
Americans actually did better than most on that question if you look at the PDF that the article is based off of. In fact they did much better than Europeans. In fact most Americans know that George Bush's monkeys didn't bring down the WTC with Thermite on 9/11. Smile

http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/seind14/content/chapter-7/c07.pdf

European countries, unlike America, showed an upward trend in their scientific knowledge, and in most areas of scientific competence, Americans came up short. Your comparing a poll from 2005 to a poll from 2012.
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2/15/2014 12:16pm
Looks like the British are just as smart...



I'm not British, smart guy.
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lostboy819 wrote:
And 4 out of 5 Brit's don't know what a toothbrush is.
OH MAN!!!!!Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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2/15/2014 12:36pm
Also, this is not an European vs. America thing. Any country should be alarmed at some of these stats. These polls are good for educational reasons and to adjust criteria and public and classroom curriculum.
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2/15/2014 12:49pm Edited Date/Time 2/15/2014 12:51pm
rebus wrote:
Americans actually did better than most on that question if you look at the PDF that the article is based off of. In fact they did...
Americans actually did better than most on that question if you look at the PDF that the article is based off of. In fact they did much better than Europeans. In fact most Americans know that George Bush's monkeys didn't bring down the WTC with Thermite on 9/11. Smile

http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/seind14/content/chapter-7/c07.pdf

rebus wrote:
European countries, unlike America, showed an upward trend in their scientific knowledge, and in most areas of scientific competence, Americans came up short. Your comparing a...
European countries, unlike America, showed an upward trend in their scientific knowledge, and in most areas of scientific competence, Americans came up short. Your comparing a poll from 2005 to a poll from 2012.
Are you just making things up? Where in there does it say anything about European countries having an upward trend and America doesn't? Of course if your starting from the bottom there is nowhere to go but up. Smile The data I highlighted is from the document the article in your post is about. Some other interesting quotes from that document I am sure you will like:

- A survey of the United States and 10 European countries, including the 5 largest, suggests that interest in S&T in the United States is somewhat higher than in Europe.

- Levels of factual knowledge in the United States are comparable to those in Europe and are generally higher than levels in countries in other parts of the world

- Americans performed better than the average for residents of 10 European countries on a similar
multiple-choice measure of probability

International Comparisons
Americans generally report higher levels of interest in
S&T issues than do residents of many European countries.
A survey conducted by the BBVA Foundation in the United
States and 10 European countries—including the 5 largest
(France, Germany, Italy, Spain, and the United Kingdom)
and 5 others (Austria, the Czech Republic, Denmark, the
Netherlands, and Poland)—asked respondents to use a
0-to-10–point scale to rate their interest in six issues. These
included three S&T-related issues (“scientific issues,” “en-
vironmental issues,” and “health issues”) and three non-
S&T issues (“economic issues,” “international issues,” and
“political issues”). For scientific issues, the United States
had an average interest level of 6.0, which was greater than
the 10-country European average of 5.6.
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2/15/2014 1:27pm
rebus wrote:
J.F.S wrote:
Great news for the republicans and the religious fanatics, these groups need a lot of ignorant people in order to get a following.
This goes along with other facts linked in that article.

Simply disgusting and sad.

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2014/01/creati…
2/15/2014 1:27pm
rebus wrote:
J.F.S wrote:
Great news for the republicans and the religious fanatics, these groups need a lot of ignorant people in order to get a following.
To win an election you have to appeal to the ignorant regardless of party affiliation. That's how you get the majority!
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Americans actually did better than most on that question if you look at the PDF that the article is based off of. In fact they did...
Americans actually did better than most on that question if you look at the PDF that the article is based off of. In fact they did much better than Europeans. In fact most Americans know that George Bush's monkeys didn't bring down the WTC with Thermite on 9/11. Smile

http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/seind14/content/chapter-7/c07.pdf

rebus wrote:
European countries, unlike America, showed an upward trend in their scientific knowledge, and in most areas of scientific competence, Americans came up short. Your comparing a...
European countries, unlike America, showed an upward trend in their scientific knowledge, and in most areas of scientific competence, Americans came up short. Your comparing a poll from 2005 to a poll from 2012.
Are you just making things up? Where in there does it say anything about European countries having an upward trend and America doesn't? Of course if...
Are you just making things up? Where in there does it say anything about European countries having an upward trend and America doesn't? Of course if your starting from the bottom there is nowhere to go but up. Smile The data I highlighted is from the document the article in your post is about. Some other interesting quotes from that document I am sure you will like:

- A survey of the United States and 10 European countries, including the 5 largest, suggests that interest in S&T in the United States is somewhat higher than in Europe.

- Levels of factual knowledge in the United States are comparable to those in Europe and are generally higher than levels in countries in other parts of the world

- Americans performed better than the average for residents of 10 European countries on a similar
multiple-choice measure of probability

International Comparisons
Americans generally report higher levels of interest in
S&T issues than do residents of many European countries.
A survey conducted by the BBVA Foundation in the United
States and 10 European countries—including the 5 largest
(France, Germany, Italy, Spain, and the United Kingdom)
and 5 others (Austria, the Czech Republic, Denmark, the
Netherlands, and Poland)—asked respondents to use a
0-to-10–point scale to rate their interest in six issues. These
included three S&T-related issues (“scientific issues,” “en-
vironmental issues,” and “health issues”) and three non-
S&T issues (“economic issues,” “international issues,” and
“political issues”). For scientific issues, the United States
had an average interest level of 6.0, which was greater than
the 10-country European average of 5.6.
If you read the pdf instead of glancing over it to cherry pick your quotes, you'd know where is says that European countries improved from 1995 to 2005, and that American levels stayed the same. You'd also know that the study points out that there were some key differences between some of the European polls and this one which is reflected in the overall findings.

I let you search them out and if you can't fine them, which I am sure you will because you're a smart guy, then I'll show were to go.
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2/16/2014 11:14am
rebus wrote:
European countries, unlike America, showed an upward trend in their scientific knowledge, and in most areas of scientific competence, Americans came up short. Your comparing a...
European countries, unlike America, showed an upward trend in their scientific knowledge, and in most areas of scientific competence, Americans came up short. Your comparing a poll from 2005 to a poll from 2012.
Are you just making things up? Where in there does it say anything about European countries having an upward trend and America doesn't? Of course if...
Are you just making things up? Where in there does it say anything about European countries having an upward trend and America doesn't? Of course if your starting from the bottom there is nowhere to go but up. Smile The data I highlighted is from the document the article in your post is about. Some other interesting quotes from that document I am sure you will like:

- A survey of the United States and 10 European countries, including the 5 largest, suggests that interest in S&T in the United States is somewhat higher than in Europe.

- Levels of factual knowledge in the United States are comparable to those in Europe and are generally higher than levels in countries in other parts of the world

- Americans performed better than the average for residents of 10 European countries on a similar
multiple-choice measure of probability

International Comparisons
Americans generally report higher levels of interest in
S&T issues than do residents of many European countries.
A survey conducted by the BBVA Foundation in the United
States and 10 European countries—including the 5 largest
(France, Germany, Italy, Spain, and the United Kingdom)
and 5 others (Austria, the Czech Republic, Denmark, the
Netherlands, and Poland)—asked respondents to use a
0-to-10–point scale to rate their interest in six issues. These
included three S&T-related issues (“scientific issues,” “en-
vironmental issues,” and “health issues”) and three non-
S&T issues (“economic issues,” “international issues,” and
“political issues”). For scientific issues, the United States
had an average interest level of 6.0, which was greater than
the 10-country European average of 5.6.
rebus wrote:
If you read the pdf instead of glancing over it to cherry pick your quotes, you'd know where is says that European countries improved from 1995...
If you read the pdf instead of glancing over it to cherry pick your quotes, you'd know where is says that European countries improved from 1995 to 2005, and that American levels stayed the same. You'd also know that the study points out that there were some key differences between some of the European polls and this one which is reflected in the overall findings.

I let you search them out and if you can't fine them, which I am sure you will because you're a smart guy, then I'll show were to go.
Translation:

Even after showing improvement, Europeans lag behind Americans which means they were WAY behind before. ....
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2/16/2014 11:24am
The fact is 34 out of 100 Europeans think the sun orbits the Earth. Doh! Smile
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Who cares....it would work either way........Laughing Laughing Laughing Wink
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APLMAN99 wrote:
Translation:

Even after showing improvement, Europeans lag behind Americans which means they were WAY behind before. ....
Not necessarily. One thing to keep in mind is that these polls are used to indicate trends. 1 in 4 Americans don't know that the earth orbits the sun. Other studies, a recent 2012 study, indicated that U.S. students are lagging behind other countries in math, science, and reading, but more importantly, they are remaining stagnant. There is no improvement while other European and non-European countries are steadily improving. The general public is usually not scientifically literate so it's no surprise that both the average American and the average European score roughly the same on these types of polls. I think where many Americans lack is simply in their depth of culture and the false attitude that American is the greatest country on the earth. Europeans are a bit more refined than most Americans, not only in culture but in making things better. If there is a problem with the test scores, then something is done to improve the test scores.
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The fact is 34 out of 100 Europeans think the sun orbits the Earth. Doh! Smile
No they don't.
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2/16/2014 12:58pm
Yes they do. It's right there in your PDF. Shit, I'll bet you 8 out of those 34 are engineers and architects. Smile
2/16/2014 1:54pm
Most Americans believe the Earth is less than 10k years old. This stat makes my brain hurt.
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BUTCH wrote:
Who cares....it would work either way........Laughing Laughing Laughing Wink
BUTCH was one of the 26 Americans. Smile
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2/16/2014 3:20pm
rebus wrote:
J.F.S wrote:
Great news for the republicans and the religious fanatics, these groups need a lot of ignorant people in order to get a following.
You've obviously never seen the crowd at the DNC convention.
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2/16/2014 3:54pm
Did an American bang your wife or something? Every thread you start Seems your agenda is to make out like we are stupid. Tell ya what, next time your being ruled by a Dick...Tator that killes your Family because "you didn't make the cut" don't come crying to us.
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2/16/2014 4:05pm
That doesn't seem right... I thought 1 in 4 Americans were Mexican?Laughing
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EZZA 95B wrote:
That doesn't seem right... I thought 1 in 4 Americans were Mexican?Laughing
We're a bunch of Muts, take all who want to come here...LegallyWink

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