96 Ktm 250 sx

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Just got the bike! I'm having troubles with idle. Compression is good so I figured it was carb. So I tore it apart and cleaned it thoroughly. But don't know where factory setting would be. The jet is 170 and I turned out the brass screw 1.5 turns to start but does the black plastic screw does it need to start almost all the way out or almost all the way in? All gaskets on engine are new so I'm assuming the engine was gone through... Thanks









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10/13/2016 8:56pm
That black screw is the idle control. It should be near 1.5 turns out from all the way and adjust from there. It looks like a Keihn PWK, probably the best carb for 2 strokes. That main jet sounds good for sea level, where you are. I would still double check a generic jetting chart or even see what other 250 guys are running with that carb.

If the idle is high make sure the throttle cable is moving freely and allowing the slide on the carb to close all the way.

I would put a fresh spark plug gapped correctly, not sure what the ktm calls for here, and go from there.


Bike looks really clean. You will like the 250 power. Get some fork protectors asap.

I'm just across the river in Vancouver.
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10/14/2016 1:36pm
I went down to 168 main 40 pilot it really likes that setting power valve seems to be random. And I have to have rpm way up there so I ordered the adjustable housing setup from a 98 and a spring kit with three springs red green and yello or whatever. From shaven racing. So I'll fine tune it to hit sooner and harder ! Thanks for the compliments and suggestions! Where do you usually ride?
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10/14/2016 3:23pm
I meant to say the idle screw should be as close to 1.5 turns out from all the way in.

Yeah if it doesn't sound pingy or detonation isn't occurring dropping a main will generally net more power. Try to find the sweet spot.

I can't help on power valves. I never had to service mine on my old hondas. My CR500 motor doesn't have one.


LaDee flats near Estacada OR is my favorite. Its about 40 min from pdx. 15 miles of a nice gravel road with single track and 4x4 trails spurring off. You can get some high speed rips in and some nice woods riding.

Sand Lake was fun but a dirtbike is a handful in the sand. Well only when you want to go slow lol
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10/14/2016 3:24pm
Try that jet and check the plug. Should be a milk chocolate color. White is detonation and near catastrophic failure and black is pig rich.

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10/14/2016 5:27pm
Just got my Suzuki necj needle! Stick with my 168 main 40 pilot? I'm still rich at that setting. Not sure on needle that's currently in it. Thanks just pumped for test day tomorrow !
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10/14/2016 5:53pm
I haven't rode lady flats but I have been all up and around ripplebrook!
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10/14/2016 6:17pm
I would stick with current jetting and get a plug reading on it off a brand new plug and go from there. The bike might feel rich but is burning plugs that nice chocolate color anyways.


Something to consider: If you are rich at sea level, it will be even richer up in elevation, think Ripplebrook/Ladee is about 1500-2500 ft. So consider that when testing also.

I Jet my bike for sea level and adjust the air screw up to 2k feet. If I was going any higher and I would need to swap jets. You can get quite a bit of tuning out of the air screw on a Keihn pwk though.
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10/14/2016 7:09pm
Thank you! So higher the elevation the richer I need to go?
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10/14/2016 7:30pm Edited Date/Time 10/14/2016 7:32pm
No you lean out the jetting the higher up you go.

The less air available means you have to lower the fuel level with smaller jets.

Down at sea level the air is more dense and needs more fuel to match it. Which is why you can adjust the air intake screw on the carb and adjust for some altitude, some being the key word. Every bike will be different, some will want new jets flat out with a 2k elevation change.

If that is indeed the PWK air stryker model, I would check but it does look like one, it is well known to have a decent range of adjustment though.

Edit: When I jet for sea level, they are the biggest jets I have and I can "open" the air screw, by screwing it out, to let more air into the carb and mixture when I go up in elevation to account for the less dense air. This is still on the sea level jets. This is where you need to get into plug reading though as it might feel fine with just the air screw changes but the only true test is the plug test.
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10/14/2016 7:43pm
Gotcha! I haven't had to mess with my jets until I did a rebuild. Now it's all screwed up. I feel like I have leaned it out a lot but still seems rich
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10/14/2016 7:45pm
Tomorrow I will put in my new needle bring up the pilot a bit maybe 42 and 168 main. I'll go pull her hard and take pics of the spark plug.
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10/14/2016 7:48pm
Also hard to tell because haven't been on the pipe to much trying to break in the forged pistons in properly and get a good seat with the rings. I put a screen in for spark arrestor it may be clogged with the spooge so I'm gonna take it out and put a new one later.
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Went out for a ride got it dialed in! Suzuki needle last clip (which is hard to believe) 168main 40 pilot 1.5 turns. still waiting on my slayen racings power valve spring kit. And my adjustable power valve setup. Then I can fine tune when the power valve kicks in and how long it holds? Super happy with how it rides! Broke my kick start spring so need to order a new kick start or spring.
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10/18/2016 6:50am
Glad you got it dialed in!

Those your other bikes?
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Quads my dads, 450 my cousins , we got cr250 in the fleet as well, then the Ktm. But thanks if you wanna go for a ride sometime let me know. Was gonna head to the dunes this weekend.

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