who is Ryno talking about?

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dantheman 4/4/2013 9:59pm
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My only observations of neck brace effectiveness is limited at best.

What I've seen first hand was about six collar bones easily broken in simple crashes that in no way would have resulted in a severe neck/spinal injury or broken collar bones had they not been wearing a Leatt brace. Now if only we knew how many collar bones have been "sacrificed", for this increased level of protection from serious neck injury, from slight crashes or falls.

If the number is too high(nationwide) versus the number of actual catastrophic neck injuries then obviously a better design should be R&D'd and manufactured. That's just common sense.

Also, I compression fractured T6-T9(broken back) so, I would never wear anything that put any pressure in the center of my back/loading my spine! I don't ride anymore though so, moot point!

This is just my opinion, I'm indifferent to anyones personal choices and hope they're as safe as they can be with whatever gear they choose.
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dantheman 4/4/2013 10:09pm
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Choppy wrote:
I'll drop you on your head without a neck brace and your friend with one... I don't think you understand where I was going with that...
I'll drop you on your head without a neck brace and your friend with one...

I don't think you understand where I was going with that.

Point is no helmet or other protective equipment has been proven to prevent or reduce a concussion. We go off the data available and a bit of faith.
Even though we might never prove helmets don't prevent concussions we wear them in hopes of preventing a concussion among other things.

The same should be said and considered for neck braces.
I'm pretty sure everyone hopes that their helmet prevents their HEAD/FACE from being bashed in first and foremost, and secondary is concussion prevention. That why your argument is shit bro'

Helmets have a multitude of protectionary features, what are the other safety funcitons of a neck brace?
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Choppy 4/4/2013 10:10pm
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dantheman wrote:
My only observations of neck brace effectiveness is limited at best. What I've seen first hand was about six collar bones easily broken in simple crashes...
My only observations of neck brace effectiveness is limited at best.

What I've seen first hand was about six collar bones easily broken in simple crashes that in no way would have resulted in a severe neck/spinal injury or broken collar bones had they not been wearing a Leatt brace. Now if only we knew how many collar bones have been "sacrificed", for this increased level of protection from serious neck injury, from slight crashes or falls.

If the number is too high(nationwide) versus the number of actual catastrophic neck injuries then obviously a better design should be R&D'd and manufactured. That's just common sense.

Also, I compression fractured T6-T9(broken back) so, I would never wear anything that put any pressure in the center of my back/loading my spine! I don't ride anymore though so, moot point!

This is just my opinion, I'm indifferent to anyones personal choices and hope they're as safe as they can be with whatever gear they choose.
I'm pretty sure that study posted has a section discussing collarbones and the brace.

People break collarbones by putting to much weight in a backpack, so I'm not sure how you can tell what crash would or wouldn't break a collarbone.

Again, my problems not with people questioning or not wanting to wear the brace, it's with people that don't want to read the information available or want someone else to read for them.
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Choppy 4/4/2013 10:13pm
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Choppy wrote:
I'll drop you on your head without a neck brace and your friend with one... I don't think you understand where I was going with that...
I'll drop you on your head without a neck brace and your friend with one...

I don't think you understand where I was going with that.

Point is no helmet or other protective equipment has been proven to prevent or reduce a concussion. We go off the data available and a bit of faith.
Even though we might never prove helmets don't prevent concussions we wear them in hopes of preventing a concussion among other things.

The same should be said and considered for neck braces.
dantheman wrote:
I'm pretty sure everyone hopes that their helmet prevents their HEAD/FACE from being bashed in first and foremost, and secondary is concussion prevention. That why your...
I'm pretty sure everyone hopes that their helmet prevents their HEAD/FACE from being bashed in first and foremost, and secondary is concussion prevention. That why your argument is shit bro'

Helmets have a multitude of protectionary features, what are the other safety funcitons of a neck brace?
Watch the video that shows Doc Bodnar discussing the brace protecting Canards back from a frame landing on him. That for one. Bailey discusses how it can prevent death from a footpeg cutting you in another video.

You have a heavy priori that makes any discussion a waste of time.

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dantheman 4/4/2013 10:15pm
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Yeah, we're done Wink Cool.
Steven_Perry 4/4/2013 10:21pm
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STICK TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION FUUUCCCKKKK!

OH no top pro got injured,,,,got it reading posts for the last day(not)Good job Ryno...suckers bought into it.

Well played.
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Choppy 4/4/2013 10:24pm
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Steven_Perry wrote:
STICK TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION FUUUCCCKKKK!

OH no top pro got injured,,,,got it reading posts for the last day(not)Good job Ryno...suckers bought into it.

Well played.
If any top racer was hurt it would be on the first page....
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CamP 4/4/2013 10:30pm
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dantheman wrote:
My only observations of neck brace effectiveness is limited at best. What I've seen first hand was about six collar bones easily broken in simple crashes...
My only observations of neck brace effectiveness is limited at best.

What I've seen first hand was about six collar bones easily broken in simple crashes that in no way would have resulted in a severe neck/spinal injury or broken collar bones had they not been wearing a Leatt brace. Now if only we knew how many collar bones have been "sacrificed", for this increased level of protection from serious neck injury, from slight crashes or falls.

If the number is too high(nationwide) versus the number of actual catastrophic neck injuries then obviously a better design should be R&D'd and manufactured. That's just common sense.

Also, I compression fractured T6-T9(broken back) so, I would never wear anything that put any pressure in the center of my back/loading my spine! I don't ride anymore though so, moot point!

This is just my opinion, I'm indifferent to anyones personal choices and hope they're as safe as they can be with whatever gear they choose.
Compression fractures of the Thoracic spine are caused by hyperflexion. The rear strut of the neck brace is not loaded during hyperflexion.
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dantheman 4/4/2013 10:45pm
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CamP wrote:
Compression fractures of the Thoracic spine are caused by hyperflexion. The rear strut of the neck brace is not loaded during hyperflexion.
I understand that Cam, we'll just call it post accident "phobia"!!!
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jemcee 4/5/2013 1:39am
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I wasn't wearing one, and I really wish I was (mainly so I could know for sure)..

but I wasn't a single digit pro so what would I know?




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KennyT 4/5/2013 7:40am
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The collarbone argument is worthless. I have witnessed many broken collarbones over the years before there were any neck braces around, have never witnessed a broken collarbone with someone wearing a neck brace. Therefore neck braces prevent broken collarbones! There you go...a proven study

And for the ass kissers latched onto the nuts of "single digit.....dbl digit pros" and wanting to believe they are the gods of knowledge. Most of them have had numerous conclusions and very limited education, when it comes to your health maybe take your advice from someone else.
vanillaice782 4/5/2013 11:32am
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CamP wrote:
Compression fractures of the Thoracic spine are caused by hyperflexion. The rear strut of the neck brace is not loaded during hyperflexion.
If it was designed to protect your thoracic spine it would extend all the way down your back. It is designed to protect the most vulnerable part of your spine. Your neck.

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