rekluse vs slipper clutch

2strokerider
Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 5:12pm
Sorry to bring this up again! but reading so many mixed reviews on these clutches- im looking at options for a better clutch for my 2011 crf 450 (the honda one is terrible)
at the moment im torn between either a hinson/ STM slipper clutch, and a rekluse EXP 2 - has anybody tried both?

I will be using it for outdoor mx racing only (got my rm 300 for woods riding)

Do you lose ALL engine braking with the rekluse? (one motcross action review said that it can 'coast' into corners)
Also, with the slipper clutch- which is best, hinson or STM? and do you lose adjustment at the lever during a moto with a slipper clutch

I like the idea of an anti stall clutch (we all know how difficult a hot 4 stroke can be to start if you crash late in a moto- or if you stall mid corner etc) but i wouldnt want to lose all engine braking and be coasting into corners when trying to brake!!! The slipper clutches sound like a good idea, but i dont like the idea of the lever losing adjustment during motos

any reviews of both would be helpful

thanks
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T-Fish 6/19/2011 5:53am
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This is like comparing a set of grips to a rear fender.
2strokerider 6/19/2011 6:46am
6/19/2011 6:46am
thanks for that but i have already read that- none of them answer my questions really. My main concern about the rekluse is that i wouldnt want to lose ALL my engine braking- can you adjust them to a point where you still get some engine braking?
woodsracer667 6/19/2011 7:04am
6/19/2011 7:04am
Rekluse exp2 is the way to go, still have the engine braking and full use of your clutch. It just wont stall. The stm is also really good you just lose engine braking, and you can still stall the bike with it.

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Rooster 6/19/2011 9:17am
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A slipper won't prevent a stall and you don't lose all engine braking unless you tune it that way. You'll lose a lot of it regardless, but you can tune some of it back in or out as you choose. A slipper only works under deceleration, where a rekluse works both ways.

A couple of guys I know who installed a rekluse instead of a slipper for supermoto swear by the rekluse for starts.
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Suns_PSD 6/19/2011 12:47pm
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All the slipper clutch will do is slip a bit when you bang downshifts. Nothing more. It prevents the rear tire from hopping and locking up quite as easily. Everything else is normal. You must pull in the clutch for stops, etc...

The Rekluse is an auto clutch and yes you will give up significant engine braking using this product. You won't stall however (excluding 4 strokish flame-outs) and if you run the bike a gear high it applies the power smoother than you likely can often resulting in faster lap times. Of course if you consistently run a gear high don't expect clutch packs to last as long, nor gear oil.
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Mod Killer 6/19/2011 12:56pm
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Suns_PSD wrote:
All the slipper clutch will do is slip a bit when you bang downshifts. Nothing more. It prevents the rear tire from hopping and locking up...
All the slipper clutch will do is slip a bit when you bang downshifts. Nothing more. It prevents the rear tire from hopping and locking up quite as easily. Everything else is normal. You must pull in the clutch for stops, etc...

The Rekluse is an auto clutch and yes you will give up significant engine braking using this product. You won't stall however (excluding 4 strokish flame-outs) and if you run the bike a gear high it applies the power smoother than you likely can often resulting in faster lap times. Of course if you consistently run a gear high don't expect clutch packs to last as long, nor gear oil.
excellent post. that was very helpful.
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T-Fish 6/19/2011 1:18pm
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Suns_PSD wrote:
All the slipper clutch will do is slip a bit when you bang downshifts. Nothing more. It prevents the rear tire from hopping and locking up...
All the slipper clutch will do is slip a bit when you bang downshifts. Nothing more. It prevents the rear tire from hopping and locking up quite as easily. Everything else is normal. You must pull in the clutch for stops, etc...

The Rekluse is an auto clutch and yes you will give up significant engine braking using this product. You won't stall however (excluding 4 strokish flame-outs) and if you run the bike a gear high it applies the power smoother than you likely can often resulting in faster lap times. Of course if you consistently run a gear high don't expect clutch packs to last as long, nor gear oil.
Like I said, it's like comparing grips to a seat cover. Maybe even the same as comparing foot pegs to air filters!
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You don't lose all engine braking with the Rekluse EXP, I actually think it works better than stock. If it starts to free wheel, all you have to do is blip the throttle and it will start engine braking again, once you get used to the clutch you are able to make it free wheel to your advantage if you want

I also think the EXP can help some people increase corner speed, reason being you are able to concentrate on rolling the throttle on through the corner without using the clutch with confidence because you know it won't stall, this helps keep the bike at the right RPM range.

Get the Rekluse, it will be $$ well spent, I guarantee you won't be disappointed

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