Training advice needed for Running

Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 3:59am
Hey guys, I need to get my running endurance up as quickly as possible. Need to be able to do 2 miles in 17 minutes, and I probably can't do 1 mile in that right now. I'm not fat or anything, but I just have never had any running endurance.

Any advice would be great.
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1. Good shoes, don't get El Cheapo
2. Run early in the morning
3. Run for time( go out and start for 15 mins, 20, etc)
4. Once you have some endurance start to do sprints to bring you time down.
5. Try to run in a tarmac track or grass, avoid asphalt or concrete.
6. As you progress you should be looking at a schedule similar to this:

Day 1- Time run
Day 2- sprints
Day 3- Time run
Day 4-Hills
Day 5- Long jog

Hope it helps!
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Stretch for at least 8min before you start your runs, long slow even stretching no bouncing.

Go out and drive the route you want to do and get the mileage from the car.

New Balance, Asics really a=re some of the best shoes, go find a local store and get someone to fit the shoe for your type of program-terrain.

The Shop

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if you start getting sore take a day or two off. too much too soon and you will hurt something and you will have to stop.
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Hey guys, I need to get my running endurance up as quickly as possible. Need to be able to do 2 miles in 17 minutes, and...
Hey guys, I need to get my running endurance up as quickly as possible. Need to be able to do 2 miles in 17 minutes, and I probably can't do 1 mile in that right now. I'm not fat or anything, but I just have never had any running endurance.

Any advice would be great.
You need to talk to Adams at Dragon.

I'm jus' sayin'...
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abn166 wrote:
if you start getting sore take a day or two off. too much too soon and you will hurt something and you will have to stop.
Good advice. Start slow. You'll know when you are ready to progress.

Also think low impact. Cycling and elliptical. You can build cardio and endurance faster without the pounding.
1/19/2010 8:22pm
Well see the thing is, I'm applying to Officer School and have to be able to run 2 miles in 17 minutes... I've never ran two miles in my life... even when i was racing I did all my cardio on the motorcycle.
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No need to go drive the car to figure out distances. Use this:

http://www.trails.com/googlemap.aspx

Just click your trail, it will tell you how far you ran.

Good shoes. Stretch. Pay attention to your form, bad running form wastes lots of energy.
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i run on an elliptical i can do 1 mile every 5 min. i got
back on it after surgery and rehab for 6 plus months of
not doing aything. so try that i cant run for shit actually
running but can do an elliptical trainer. i know its not the
same but works for me.
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grover738 wrote:
No need to go drive the car to figure out distances. Use this: http://www.trails.com/googlemap.aspx Just click your trail, it will tell you how far you ran...
No need to go drive the car to figure out distances. Use this:

http://www.trails.com/googlemap.aspx

Just click your trail, it will tell you how far you ran.

Good shoes. Stretch. Pay attention to your form, bad running form wastes lots of energy.
what are some bad running habits, so i dont do them?
1/19/2010 9:55pm
grover738 wrote:
No need to go drive the car to figure out distances. Use this: http://www.trails.com/googlemap.aspx Just click your trail, it will tell you how far you ran...
No need to go drive the car to figure out distances. Use this:

http://www.trails.com/googlemap.aspx

Just click your trail, it will tell you how far you ran.

Good shoes. Stretch. Pay attention to your form, bad running form wastes lots of energy.
what are some bad running habits, so i dont do them?
Yeah what do I need to look to avoid so that I don't waste a bunch of energy?
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grover738 wrote:
No need to go drive the car to figure out distances. Use this: http://www.trails.com/googlemap.aspx Just click your trail, it will tell you how far you ran...
No need to go drive the car to figure out distances. Use this:

http://www.trails.com/googlemap.aspx

Just click your trail, it will tell you how far you ran.

Good shoes. Stretch. Pay attention to your form, bad running form wastes lots of energy.
what are some bad running habits, so i dont do them?
Yeah what do I need to look to avoid so that I don't waste a bunch of energy?
not gettin off the couch
1/19/2010 10:36pm
what are some bad running habits, so i dont do them?
Yeah what do I need to look to avoid so that I don't waste a bunch of energy?
slomoto wrote:
not gettin off the couch
Dude I'm not looking for your ignorant answers... I"m talking about running as efficiently as possible. If you cannot contribute to that, then please stay out of this discussion.
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Doesnt the average person slow walk 3 miles per hour?

2 Miles in 17 minutes is like, um, about 2.5 times as fast as you can walk.

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Get good running shoes fitted, Asics have the best range for all running styles. If you are an over pronator (your feet roll in) then you will need support so you don't transfer the stress to your knees. Most triathletes run with Asics and for good reason.
Initially your cardio will hold you back but this will be short term within a few weeks your leg muscles will be your limitation. When you are sore from this change your routine to low impact slow running or even walking but always stretch before and after.
Good luck and take care of your feet, you're gonna need them.
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First go buy a shoes in a specialized shop, where they analize the way you walk and tell you what shoes do you need. That will prevent posible injury.

Then just start running.

Once you do 1/4 marathon easily start with interval training.
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Hey guys, I need to get my running endurance up as quickly as possible. Need to be able to do 2 miles in 17 minutes, and...
Hey guys, I need to get my running endurance up as quickly as possible. Need to be able to do 2 miles in 17 minutes, and I probably can't do 1 mile in that right now. I'm not fat or anything, but I just have never had any running endurance.

Any advice would be great.
I made up my own running program that I started in '83 not making a mile without stopping a few times to 6 minute per mile training runs for 5 miles and a 10-15 miler midweek in a year for MX and certain runs I'd do for comp. Most 10Ks.
Need to run 8 1/2 minute miles for 2 miles. How much time you got till this test run?

Items/things that helped me-
Get a Heart rate monitor to keep you within the aerobic benefit cardio range of 60-75% effort. Start at the low end 60-65% level for a while or you will burnout fast. Also start maybe like every other day to give you rest that as important as the cardio.
48-72 hrs of no activity starts the deconditioning process; closer to 72 I believe.
A pair of headphones to listen to your fav music which could help energize your run. Worked for me..
Best pair of lightweight running shoes and make sure your arches are well supported.
Running tights like the sprinters wear are a chick magnet...lol...and keeps chafing down on insides of upper legs by your you know what.
Watch for pain in your shins; shin splints are common with some runners especially if overzealous and/or do only pavement runs. .
Relax your shoulders, arms, neck while running and in a fairly upright position like you walk. Find a comfortable length of stride even if it's a shoe lengths; as long as you keep yourself within the aerobic zone and moving, you will see benefits faster the longer you can go even if you have to start with a fast walk to finish that first mile.
Until you have a good foundation of consistent miles run on reg basis, IMO would avoid any sprinting due to lack of endurance and lactic acid excess forms in muscles making you very sore and takes a few days to recover.
Before you stretch, do some type of easy 10 min exercise to warm up muscles for stretching; never stretch cold. Makes easier to stretch and don't force it, hold about 10 secs and release. You'll feel the release during the 10 secs prior to full release.
Keeping a daily training diary helps your morale seeing progress. Kept one to coincide with my racing and running races; helped a lot.
Good luck.

A website explaining aerobic exercise formula and maybe other info that may help.
http://www.netfit.co.uk/wkaer.htm

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Man, your're looking for some easy way out, sorry, there isn't any.

Run every day till you just about puke.

3 miles in 25 minutes or your out of shape imho.

I'd be sketchey about following a guy that gives the bare min, just sayin...................
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Yeah what do I need to look to avoid so that I don't waste a bunch of energy?
slomoto wrote:
not gettin off the couch
Dude I'm not looking for your ignorant answers... I"m talking about running as efficiently as possible. If you cannot contribute to that, then please stay out...
Dude I'm not looking for your ignorant answers... I"m talking about running as efficiently as possible. If you cannot contribute to that, then please stay out of this discussion.
Maybe you chose the wrong website.
Ohhhhhhhh..... jus sayin and all.
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I try to keep looking as far ahead as possible, just like driving or on a bike, this makes the miles go by faster. I also try to keep all of my body motion going forward, pay attention to the leg and arm movement and minimize side to side. 2M in 17 mins will be no issue, I would start with a fast mile(sub 8 min) and let off for the second mile with a sprint at the end. Best of luck
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1/20/2010 6:56am Edited Date/Time 1/20/2010 7:24am
What branch of the service only wants a 2 mile PFT ?

You should be able to get 2 miles in 17 minutes easy. Im 46 and can pull that speed for a few miles.

Good luck.
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Check your mail, sent info for Deon Bean here in Tulsa, he can help with shoes and advice. He is still into moto and cross country but I know he does more running now than anything. Not sure if you remember him, he workded at Dick Lanes for quite awhile, while we were at Honda of Tulsa. Like everyone said you can do the time easy, just get started.
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1/20/2010 7:14am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 8:11pm
Well see the thing is, I'm applying to Officer School and have to be able to run 2 miles in 17 minutes... I've never ran two...
Well see the thing is, I'm applying to Officer School and have to be able to run 2 miles in 17 minutes... I've never ran two miles in my life... even when i was racing I did all my cardio on the motorcycle.
Then by the time you take your PT test you need to be able to run 2 1/2 - 3 miles. If you show up on test day and your training has only taken you to 2 miles under 17 minutes you are probably screwed. Same thing with your push ups and sit ups. What ever your minimum requirement is, you better be able to do 10 - 15 more reps than what you need to do on test day.

If you know which time of the day you are going to take your test, morning or afternoon, then do your training during that same time of the day. Don't do your training runs first thing in the morning if your test is going to be at 1600, and vice versa.

There are other factors involved on test day, like weather and STRESS, that will impact your overall performance and score.

Just something to keep in mind, I have been taking military PT Tests for over 26 years, so I have a little experience in that area.

Get some good running shoes, some good running socks, start slow, and work your way up. If you have a specialty running shoe store near where you live, many times they have group runs, with different skill level groups (beginners), you may be able to get some good pointers there.

Good luck.
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Hey guys, I need to get my running endurance up as quickly as possible. Need to be able to do 2 miles in 17 minutes, and...
Hey guys, I need to get my running endurance up as quickly as possible. Need to be able to do 2 miles in 17 minutes, and I probably can't do 1 mile in that right now. I'm not fat or anything, but I just have never had any running endurance.

Any advice would be great.
Check out the link that Rustytrombone put in here, that will work wonders for you. Follow exactly what it says and you will be amazed how well it works. I started using a system kinda similar to that after not doing any running other than short sprints like in soccer or basketball and I was amazed how well it worked. It will seem really easy when you start but stick to it and you will be surprised.
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thanks andymoto
Sure, you're welcome.
1/20/2010 2:28pm
Well see the thing is, I'm applying to Officer School and have to be able to run 2 miles in 17 minutes... I've never ran two...
Well see the thing is, I'm applying to Officer School and have to be able to run 2 miles in 17 minutes... I've never ran two miles in my life... even when i was racing I did all my cardio on the motorcycle.
RNagy052 wrote:
Then by the time you take your PT test you need to be able to run 2 1/2 - 3 miles. If you show up on...
Then by the time you take your PT test you need to be able to run 2 1/2 - 3 miles. If you show up on test day and your training has only taken you to 2 miles under 17 minutes you are probably screwed. Same thing with your push ups and sit ups. What ever your minimum requirement is, you better be able to do 10 - 15 more reps than what you need to do on test day.

If you know which time of the day you are going to take your test, morning or afternoon, then do your training during that same time of the day. Don't do your training runs first thing in the morning if your test is going to be at 1600, and vice versa.

There are other factors involved on test day, like weather and STRESS, that will impact your overall performance and score.

Just something to keep in mind, I have been taking military PT Tests for over 26 years, so I have a little experience in that area.

Get some good running shoes, some good running socks, start slow, and work your way up. If you have a specialty running shoe store near where you live, many times they have group runs, with different skill level groups (beginners), you may be able to get some good pointers there.

Good luck.
Yeah that is some good advice... thanks I will make sure to keep that in mind.

Oh and it is Army Warrant Officer Flight Training.
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When i was training to pass selection to join the British army. I had to do a 1.5 mile under 12 min. When i went to selection ,i did it in an average 10 mins.

From personal experience during the week i would;
-Go for 3+ mile slow run
-Shuttle runs / sprinting from one side of a field to the other, taking a few min break then repeating.
- Even though i was advised not to, i would do a 1.5 mile in the fastest time possible once a week.
I would always advise a decent warm. Make sure you breathing in a normal pattern, and try run with your feet facing to the front Wink

Whatever condition your in, you should be start getting the time you want over a couple of months time

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