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Damn, this two-stroke movement is strong. Odd that the OEM's don't see the $ potential in this?
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funny how it looks so ugly sitting on the stand but it looks so good sitting in the lead!

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Dead engine starts always give advantage to smokers.
miedosoracing1 4/6/2010 5:14am
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DrSweden wrote:
Damn, this two-stroke movement is strong. Odd that the OEM's don't see the $ potential in this?
They do, they are just mad they can't stop it. They will look like hypocrits coming back with 2007 model bikes. So how do they come back into the scene. If they would have just kept on making the same bike, like Yam, they would be fine and there never would have been this movement of "Return of the 2 stroke" But they killed them and now they are getting killed. So do they bring out the new frame model and never change a thing again? Do they bring out the old bikes that would keep them behind in times compared to KTM and Yamaha? Do they not do anything and watch the share of new bikes sales increase yearly by KTM and Yamaha? What to do... What to do...
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I haven't rode a two stroke in years but the sound of a shorty pro circuit silencer is still the best moto sound.
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Racer92 wrote:
Dead engine starts always give advantage to smokers.
They sure do!


But then the two stroke guys quickly pump up and fade, while the guys on thumpers tractor on for the win! W00t
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Dead engine starts always give advantage to smokers.
Ask Kawrider9 about that.... Woohoo
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DrSweden wrote:
Damn, this two-stroke movement is strong. Odd that the OEM's don't see the $ potential in this?
miedosoracing1 wrote:
They do, they are just mad they can't stop it. They will look like hypocrits coming back with 2007 model bikes. So how do they come...
They do, they are just mad they can't stop it. They will look like hypocrits coming back with 2007 model bikes. So how do they come back into the scene. If they would have just kept on making the same bike, like Yam, they would be fine and there never would have been this movement of "Return of the 2 stroke" But they killed them and now they are getting killed. So do they bring out the new frame model and never change a thing again? Do they bring out the old bikes that would keep them behind in times compared to KTM and Yamaha? Do they not do anything and watch the share of new bikes sales increase yearly by KTM and Yamaha? What to do... What to do...
Meidoso, I know you love you some two-strokes, but you really are starting to sound a bit like someone's crazy uncle.

"They do, they are just mad they can't stop it."

Really? Which manufacturer(s) are you talking about? What did they have to say? How did they demonstrate that they're mad? I'm really curious.

The funniest part about the interview from the link posted above was this line..."yeah steel creek was a really hard race on the 2stroke, i don't think there is a track where the 2stroke is better it just starts easy, the truth is its maybe a disadvantage."
miedosoracing1 4/6/2010 8:19am
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Guy, you and I both know which companies, cuz you are friends with people in the industry. I have yet to name names, but really, at this point I could and it wouldn't affect anything I do in my life. You know for a fact, there was a big broohaahaa when DC went to the OEM's and asked if they would accept the 250cc vs 250cc. They basically said do that and we will take our toys home. So if that isn't mad then what is? If we can't play by our rules, we won't play. I posted first here, that Honda was the big company that sent lobbyists to squish the chinese bike makers, using the lead thing. It came back to bite them and they cried. The Homologation rule changed this year, but the big companies are the one's who came up with that. So that came back to bite them. They keep on having to make their own rules. If not, prove me wrong on any of this. Funny how I can't get a response on what the new rules are for Homologation...


By the way, he said "maybe." But he still rides them, for what, just because they start? Maybe he is thinking, don't let the competition know how good it really is and why I WON! What sizes is he comparing. 450F and 250t?

You say the big OEM's aren't mad. But I'm sure they are happy that KTM is taking over right? http://www.moto-tally.com/...rs.asp?EY=2010&EID=1
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(copy/pasted to preserve the original...)

DrSweden wrote: Damn, this two-stroke movement is strong. Odd that the OEM's don't see the $ potential in this?

miedosoracing1 wrote: They do, they are just mad they can't stop it. They will look like hypocrits coming back with 2007 model bikes. So how do they come back into the scene. If they would have just kept on making the same bike, like Yam, they would be fine and there never would have been this movement of "Return of the 2 stroke" But they killed them and now they are getting killed. So do they bring out the new frame model and never change a thing again? Do they bring out the old bikes that would keep them behind in times compared to KTM and Yamaha? Do they not do anything and watch the share of new bikes sales increase yearly by KTM and Yamaha? What to do... What to do...
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I don't get why two-stroke lovers want everybody to ride them. If 4-strokes are so bad- ride your 2-stroke and enjoy your HUGE ADVANTAGE. In amateurs you can even race the same displacement.
miedosoracing1 4/6/2010 8:26am
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Moto East Mag wrote:
I don't get why two-stroke lovers want everybody to ride them. If 4-strokes are so bad- ride your 2-stroke and enjoy your HUGE ADVANTAGE. In amateurs...
I don't get why two-stroke lovers want everybody to ride them. If 4-strokes are so bad- ride your 2-stroke and enjoy your HUGE ADVANTAGE. In amateurs you can even race the same displacement.
When have we ever stated we want everyone to ride them? I've stated over and over and so have many here, that there are strokes for everyone. But the fact that no new tech 2 strokes being made except KTM, doesn't jive. What HUGE advantage are you speaking of? Every race I've seen with both 2 vs 4 cc for cc are pretty equal.
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Guy, you and I both know which companies, cuz you are friends with people in the industry. I have yet to name names, but really, at...
Guy, you and I both know which companies, cuz you are friends with people in the industry. I have yet to name names, but really, at this point I could and it wouldn't affect anything I do in my life. You know for a fact, there was a big broohaahaa when DC went to the OEM's and asked if they would accept the 250cc vs 250cc. They basically said do that and we will take our toys home. So if that isn't mad then what is? If we can't play by our rules, we won't play. I posted first here, that Honda was the big company that sent lobbyists to squish the chinese bike makers, using the lead thing. It came back to bite them and they cried. The Homologation rule changed this year, but the big companies are the one's who came up with that. So that came back to bite them. They keep on having to make their own rules. If not, prove me wrong on any of this. Funny how I can't get a response on what the new rules are for Homologation...


By the way, he said "maybe." But he still rides them, for what, just because they start? Maybe he is thinking, don't let the competition know how good it really is and why I WON! What sizes is he comparing. 450F and 250t?

You say the big OEM's aren't mad. But I'm sure they are happy that KTM is taking over right? http://www.moto-tally.com/...rs.asp?EY=2010&EID=1
miedosoracing1 wrote: Guy, you and I both know which companies, cuz you are friends with people in the industry. I have yet to name names, but really, at this point I could and it wouldn't affect anything I do in my life. You know for a fact, there was a big broohaahaa when DC went to the OEM's and asked if they would accept the 250cc vs 250cc. They basically said do that and we will take our toys home. So if that isn't mad then what is? If we can't play by our rules, we won't play. I posted first here, that Honda was the big company that sent lobbyists to squish the chinese bike makers, using the lead thing. It came back to bite them and they cried. The Homologation rule changed this year, but the big companies are the one's who came up with that. So that came back to bite them. They keep on having to make their own rules. If not, prove me wrong on any of this.

By the way, he said "maybe." But he still rides them, for what, just because they start? What sizes is he comparing. 450F and 250t?

OK, this is stupid bullshit like TFS was pulling during his octopus rants. Don't sit here and say "I know so and so said such and such but don't want to say who said what"

Don't pull that shit.

Either say it or shut the fuck up. This bullshit pretending of having something over on someone is just that, bullshit. Either say nothing or say something, but stop pretending you know some deep dark inner conspiracy, as if Deep Throat himself clued you in.

TFS pulled this same shit, and even as a friend of his, I called him on it....put up or shut up
Because until you put up, it's bullshit and you're full of shit, just looking for attention.
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Moto East Mag wrote:
I don't get why two-stroke lovers want everybody to ride them. If 4-strokes are so bad- ride your 2-stroke and enjoy your HUGE ADVANTAGE. In amateurs...
I don't get why two-stroke lovers want everybody to ride them. If 4-strokes are so bad- ride your 2-stroke and enjoy your HUGE ADVANTAGE. In amateurs you can even race the same displacement.
miedosoracing1 wrote:
When have we ever stated we want everyone to ride them? I've stated over and over and so have many here, that there are strokes for...
When have we ever stated we want everyone to ride them? I've stated over and over and so have many here, that there are strokes for everyone. But the fact that no new tech 2 strokes being made except KTM, doesn't jive. What HUGE advantage are you speaking of? Every race I've seen with both 2 vs 4 cc for cc are pretty equal.
Who the fuck is "we?"
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miedosoracing1 4/6/2010 8:31am
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flarider wrote:
miedosoracing1 wrote: [i]Guy, you and I both know which companies, cuz you are friends with people in the industry. I have yet to name names, but...
miedosoracing1 wrote: Guy, you and I both know which companies, cuz you are friends with people in the industry. I have yet to name names, but really, at this point I could and it wouldn't affect anything I do in my life. You know for a fact, there was a big broohaahaa when DC went to the OEM's and asked if they would accept the 250cc vs 250cc. They basically said do that and we will take our toys home. So if that isn't mad then what is? If we can't play by our rules, we won't play. I posted first here, that Honda was the big company that sent lobbyists to squish the chinese bike makers, using the lead thing. It came back to bite them and they cried. The Homologation rule changed this year, but the big companies are the one's who came up with that. So that came back to bite them. They keep on having to make their own rules. If not, prove me wrong on any of this.

By the way, he said "maybe." But he still rides them, for what, just because they start? What sizes is he comparing. 450F and 250t?

OK, this is stupid bullshit like TFS was pulling during his octopus rants. Don't sit here and say "I know so and so said such and such but don't want to say who said what"

Don't pull that shit.

Either say it or shut the fuck up. This bullshit pretending of having something over on someone is just that, bullshit. Either say nothing or say something, but stop pretending you know some deep dark inner conspiracy, as if Deep Throat himself clued you in.

TFS pulled this same shit, and even as a friend of his, I called him on it....put up or shut up
Because until you put up, it's bullshit and you're full of shit, just looking for attention.
PM me or call me, you know who I am, and I will tell you why I don't say who it is. I am not like TFS in the fact that I don't throw a person I respect under a bus. As far as the Lead rule, I told you that from a chinese distributer rep I know. I stated it and about a month later it came out.

I also would like to remain being able to visit races, unlike TFS.
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GuyB 4/6/2010 8:33am
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flarider wrote:
miedosoracing1 wrote: [i]Guy, you and I both know which companies, cuz you are friends with people in the industry. I have yet to name names, but...
miedosoracing1 wrote: Guy, you and I both know which companies, cuz you are friends with people in the industry. I have yet to name names, but really, at this point I could and it wouldn't affect anything I do in my life. You know for a fact, there was a big broohaahaa when DC went to the OEM's and asked if they would accept the 250cc vs 250cc. They basically said do that and we will take our toys home. So if that isn't mad then what is? If we can't play by our rules, we won't play. I posted first here, that Honda was the big company that sent lobbyists to squish the chinese bike makers, using the lead thing. It came back to bite them and they cried. The Homologation rule changed this year, but the big companies are the one's who came up with that. So that came back to bite them. They keep on having to make their own rules. If not, prove me wrong on any of this.

By the way, he said "maybe." But he still rides them, for what, just because they start? What sizes is he comparing. 450F and 250t?

OK, this is stupid bullshit like TFS was pulling during his octopus rants. Don't sit here and say "I know so and so said such and such but don't want to say who said what"

Don't pull that shit.

Either say it or shut the fuck up. This bullshit pretending of having something over on someone is just that, bullshit. Either say nothing or say something, but stop pretending you know some deep dark inner conspiracy, as if Deep Throat himself clued you in.

TFS pulled this same shit, and even as a friend of his, I called him on it....put up or shut up
Because until you put up, it's bullshit and you're full of shit, just looking for attention.
Thanks for the copy/paste, Dave. I missed the original message.

I just checked the clock on the wall, and it said, "Cuckoo, cuckoo..."
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miedosoracing1 4/6/2010 8:34am
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Moto East Mag wrote:
I don't get why two-stroke lovers want everybody to ride them. If 4-strokes are so bad- ride your 2-stroke and enjoy your HUGE ADVANTAGE. In amateurs...
I don't get why two-stroke lovers want everybody to ride them. If 4-strokes are so bad- ride your 2-stroke and enjoy your HUGE ADVANTAGE. In amateurs you can even race the same displacement.
miedosoracing1 wrote:
When have we ever stated we want everyone to ride them? I've stated over and over and so have many here, that there are strokes for...
When have we ever stated we want everyone to ride them? I've stated over and over and so have many here, that there are strokes for everyone. But the fact that no new tech 2 strokes being made except KTM, doesn't jive. What HUGE advantage are you speaking of? Every race I've seen with both 2 vs 4 cc for cc are pretty equal.
flarider wrote:
Who the fuck is "we?"
" I don't get why two-stroke lovers want everybody to ride them"


Uh duh...
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flarider 4/6/2010 8:39am
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miedosoracing1 wrote:
PM me or call me, you know who I am, and I will tell you why I don't say who it is. I am not like...
PM me or call me, you know who I am, and I will tell you why I don't say who it is. I am not like TFS in the fact that I don't throw a person I respect under a bus. As far as the Lead rule, I told you that from a chinese distributer rep I know. I stated it and about a month later it came out.

I also would like to remain being able to visit races, unlike TFS.
Then you need to STFU with the "I know who said this but can't say" shit, because if you don't have the balls to say it....say nothing


I know shit, but I don't say shit

GuyB knows shit, but he doesn't say shit

DC knows shit, but he doesn't say shit


Because you can't say "I know who said it but don't want to say who"

That is pussy bullshit, as if some wimpy ass attempt to scare people...."I'm gonna tell Mom! I'm gonna tell on you!"


Stop being a pussy and stop ranting like a fucking loon

I've been reading all your shit and I swear, you've lost your fucking mind


BTW, every time I see "pronmx" I think of "pornmx"
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miedosoracing1 4/6/2010 8:41am
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Thanks for the copy/paste, Dave. I missed the original message.

I just checked the clock on the wall, and it said, "Cuckoo, cuckoo..."
And yet you don't answer what I say because you and I both know I'm right. If not, why not let it be cc for cc in the pro's? Who didn't allow it? Why since the cc for cc in the amateurs has the numbers multiplied? chirp chirp chirp....
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flarider wrote:
Then you need to STFU with the "I know who said this but can't say" shit, because if you don't have the balls to say it....say...
Then you need to STFU with the "I know who said this but can't say" shit, because if you don't have the balls to say it....say nothing


I know shit, but I don't say shit

GuyB knows shit, but he doesn't say shit

DC knows shit, but he doesn't say shit


Because you can't say "I know who said it but don't want to say who"

That is pussy bullshit, as if some wimpy ass attempt to scare people...."I'm gonna tell Mom! I'm gonna tell on you!"


Stop being a pussy and stop ranting like a fucking loon

I've been reading all your shit and I swear, you've lost your fucking mind


BTW, every time I see "pronmx" I think of "pornmx"
So it's ok for "High Ranking" people of this place to say...

"A fight at the hotel happened the other night"....but not say who it was?
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miedosoracing1 4/6/2010 8:44am
4/6/2010 8:44am
"I know shit, but I don't say shit

GuyB knows shit, but he doesn't say shit

DC knows shit, but he doesn't say shit"


Exactly, because you want to remain at the position you are within. If you say shit you won't. Exaclty why I don't, but at this point can say what I do, because it isn't outting anyone. People know I'm right. You just proved it by saying you guys know shit and don't say it.
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miedosoracing1 4/6/2010 8:45am
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Then you need to STFU with the "I know who said this but can't say" shit, because if you don't have the balls to say it....say...
Then you need to STFU with the "I know who said this but can't say" shit, because if you don't have the balls to say it....say nothing


I know shit, but I don't say shit

GuyB knows shit, but he doesn't say shit

DC knows shit, but he doesn't say shit


Because you can't say "I know who said it but don't want to say who"

That is pussy bullshit, as if some wimpy ass attempt to scare people...."I'm gonna tell Mom! I'm gonna tell on you!"


Stop being a pussy and stop ranting like a fucking loon

I've been reading all your shit and I swear, you've lost your fucking mind


BTW, every time I see "pronmx" I think of "pornmx"
huck wrote:
So it's ok for "High Ranking" people of this place to say...

"A fight at the hotel happened the other night"....but not say who it was?
LMFAO, title of this post. OWNED
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Got me there. I was basically calling it out as being stupid, by two guys who didn't particularly need to be fighting or having a chance at ending up in trouble.

Besides, two or three people posted within that thread who the combatants were.
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Then you need to STFU with the "I know who said this but can't say" shit, because if you don't have the balls to say it....say...
Then you need to STFU with the "I know who said this but can't say" shit, because if you don't have the balls to say it....say nothing


I know shit, but I don't say shit

GuyB knows shit, but he doesn't say shit

DC knows shit, but he doesn't say shit


Because you can't say "I know who said it but don't want to say who"

That is pussy bullshit, as if some wimpy ass attempt to scare people...."I'm gonna tell Mom! I'm gonna tell on you!"


Stop being a pussy and stop ranting like a fucking loon

I've been reading all your shit and I swear, you've lost your fucking mind


BTW, every time I see "pronmx" I think of "pornmx"
huck wrote:
So it's ok for "High Ranking" people of this place to say...

"A fight at the hotel happened the other night"....but not say who it was?
Did I say that?

You have a beef with GuyB, take it up with him
I missed that thread and only read the aftermath, but GuyB and DC answer to a shit load more people than I do
But again, you have a beef with GuyB, take it up with him



and meidos - Exactly, because you want to remain at the position you are within. If you say shit you won't. Exaclty why I don't, but at this point can say what I do, because it isn't outting anyone. People know I'm right. You just proved it by saying you guys know shit and don't say it.



THEN STFU IF YOU ARE SCARED TO TALK ABOUT IT



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Did I say that? You have a beef with GuyB, take it up with him I missed that thread and only read the aftermath, but GuyB...
Did I say that?

You have a beef with GuyB, take it up with him
I missed that thread and only read the aftermath, but GuyB and DC answer to a shit load more people than I do
But again, you have a beef with GuyB, take it up with him



and meidos - Exactly, because you want to remain at the position you are within. If you say shit you won't. Exaclty why I don't, but at this point can say what I do, because it isn't outting anyone. People know I'm right. You just proved it by saying you guys know shit and don't say it.



THEN STFU IF YOU ARE SCARED TO TALK ABOUT IT



Oh, I'm sorry "Defender of all that's wrong...".

You have your head so far up the "industry's ass" it's comical.
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miedosoracing1 4/6/2010 8:56am
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flarider wrote:
Did I say that? You have a beef with GuyB, take it up with him I missed that thread and only read the aftermath, but GuyB...
Did I say that?

You have a beef with GuyB, take it up with him
I missed that thread and only read the aftermath, but GuyB and DC answer to a shit load more people than I do
But again, you have a beef with GuyB, take it up with him



and meidos - Exactly, because you want to remain at the position you are within. If you say shit you won't. Exaclty why I don't, but at this point can say what I do, because it isn't outting anyone. People know I'm right. You just proved it by saying you guys know shit and don't say it.



THEN STFU IF YOU ARE SCARED TO TALK ABOUT IT



That's fine, so I take it as you never will say you know something inside the industry, but can't say it. I'll mark that down. Or is it you are hoping I out people so I'm clicked?

By the way, maybe the names are subliminal?? Forslyk Pronmx ...
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That's fine, so I take it as you never will say you know something inside the industry, but can't say it. I'll mark that down. Or...
That's fine, so I take it as you never will say you know something inside the industry, but can't say it. I'll mark that down. Or is it you are hoping I out people so I'm clicked?

By the way, maybe the names are subliminal?? Forslyk Pronmx ...
Let's just say there is shit I will never discuss online or maybe even publicly

and at the same time, I won't be saying "I know who said this about that but don't want to say who"

I'll just say nothing

I have mentioned on here many many times, that when some crazy rumor gets posted and you are trying to figure out if its fact or fiction, pay attention to who isn't posting more than who is.
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miedosoracing1 4/6/2010 9:07am
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Copy pasted to preserve original

"Let's just say there is shit I will never discuss online or maybe even publicly

and at the same time, I won't be saying "I know who said this about that but don't want to say who"

I'll just say nothing

I have mentioned on here many many times, that when some crazy rumor gets posted and you are trying to figure out if its fact or fiction, pay attention to who isn't posting more than who is."

You are exaclty right. You and GuyB are here in this post Wink
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