MX to SBK?

Edited Date/Time 6/29/2012 7:37pm
Why are so many of the best MXers looking to transition to cars after their MX career is concluded.
Would not their skills, size, discipline and training ethic be a grounding to go to Superbike Racing? Is seems to me it would be sensible choice?
I would love to see Chad Reed or another world class MXer attempt to road race 2 wheels rather than 4. Is the transition that hard? Or is it just not desired?
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6/28/2012 3:26am
Jean Michael Bayle did in the 90's after his mx career.
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Mxers are well and truly over the injuries and risking their lives every time they go to work. Why would strapping themselves to another motorcycle and tearing down the asphalt at 300 km/h be preferable to sitting inside a relatively safe steel cage?
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there's no money in it. roadracing that is.

plus, it's not easy. you can get killed in a heartbeat.

heck, one can only think of 2 guys that changed up and went racing, and won at it after mx.

Jeff Ward and Travis Pastrana.

Bayle did it, but did he win anything big on pavement?

Mike Hailwood made the transition from bikes to cars back in the day, but after those guys, who else
hasn't had the race beat out of them by motocross?
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6/28/2012 4:49am
Because it's easyer to drive a car and not win, then to drive a motorbike and not crash.

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Because to be competitive at the top level of either sport means you have to dedicate your life to it these days. Starting to road race in your mid to late 20s after your best years of MX racing are behind you means that you will most likely never catch up to the top of any professional class at any level. 4 wheel road racing is still open to just about anyone who still has the reflexes for it. In Nascar some guys are close to retirement age and drawing social security before they leave.

Bayle was definitely the exception to the rule. He started late and somehow made it onto a couple different factory teams at the top of all motorcycle racing, MotoGP. He never did win or podium, but he had several top 5s. For that matter Jeff Ward never actually won anything in Indy Lites or the Indy 500. He came damn close and should have won at Indy, but he did have a slew of podiums. And I think what Travis has done with Rally in America is great, but the talent pool and list of drivers in the US series is pretty slim. I know he beat Colin McRae at X-Games in a sport pretty much created for it (Rallycross), but you put those 2 guys (if poor Colin was still alive, rest his soul) at Rally Acropolis or Rally Australia and poor Travis will get his ass whooped by over 10 minutes just like Ken Block has the last couple years.
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6/28/2012 4:55am
Friggin Bayle. Absolutely in his prime and takes off to roadrace. Maybe moto came so easy to him it wasnt a challenge
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Friggin Bayle. Absolutely in his prime and takes off to roadrace. Maybe moto came so easy to him it wasnt a challenge
Lofty goals for sure.

I think he said he was gonna make a run at World Championship Trials after
winning the Motogp crown, making him a one of a kind in the motorcycle world.

But I think Shawn is right, it's just too specialized, each venue takes half a lifetime
to master. To the level it goes nowadays anyway.

That's why I'd like to see RV heal up, rent a flat in Belgium, and take the GP crown.

How many have done that?
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6/28/2012 7:27am
Stephane Peterhansel has won multiple Dakar Rallies, both on bikes and in cars. There's a transition from 2 to 4 for you. I believe Rick Johnson has had success from MX/SX to Off-Road trucks as well.

I believe the previous poster was correct though, most riders are done with the risk involved with MX before they are done with the competition. Going to another two wheeled sport wouldn't make a whole lot of sense.
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6/28/2012 7:35am
motogrady wrote:
there's no money in it. roadracing that is. plus, it's not easy. you can get killed in a heartbeat. heck, one can only think of 2...
there's no money in it. roadracing that is.

plus, it's not easy. you can get killed in a heartbeat.

heck, one can only think of 2 guys that changed up and went racing, and won at it after mx.

Jeff Ward and Travis Pastrana.

Bayle did it, but did he win anything big on pavement?

Mike Hailwood made the transition from bikes to cars back in the day, but after those guys, who else
hasn't had the race beat out of them by motocross?
A lot of the racers in Moto GP and World Superbike Championships (as well as British Superbikes and Road racing) have came from motocross backgrounds. I'm pretty sure Casey Stoner did, and I know the likes of Biaggi and Melandri used to and often ride MX for fun.

Jonathan Rea used to race in Irish MX championships, and made the transition at about 18/19. He's now sitting 2nd in the World Superbike Championship.

I don't know about the culture in the US, but in Europe it's quite common place for riders to switch.

And again I can't speak for the US, but there is A LOT MORE money in Superbikes and Moto GP. I'm pretty sure Casey Stoner or Valentino Rossi earn more than 98% of professional motocrossers.
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thekendogg wrote:
A lot of the racers in Moto GP and World Superbike Championships (as well as British Superbikes and Road racing) have came from motocross backgrounds. I'm...
A lot of the racers in Moto GP and World Superbike Championships (as well as British Superbikes and Road racing) have came from motocross backgrounds. I'm pretty sure Casey Stoner did, and I know the likes of Biaggi and Melandri used to and often ride MX for fun.

Jonathan Rea used to race in Irish MX championships, and made the transition at about 18/19. He's now sitting 2nd in the World Superbike Championship.

I don't know about the culture in the US, but in Europe it's quite common place for riders to switch.

And again I can't speak for the US, but there is A LOT MORE money in Superbikes and Moto GP. I'm pretty sure Casey Stoner or Valentino Rossi earn more than 98% of professional motocrossers.
Colin Edwards also started in moto, but his switch was early before he even got onto 80s. I think the original post is speaking more toward guys who made it in MX at the pro level though. He wants to see a big name try and transition over after their career is over. That's a tall order that only Bayle has accomplished from what I have seen.
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6/28/2012 8:24am
Jeff Ward won his last race in IRL and they dropped him from the team for the next year.
6/29/2012 6:33pm
haydos25 wrote:
Mxers are well and truly over the injuries and risking their lives every time they go to work. Why would strapping themselves to another motorcycle and...
Mxers are well and truly over the injuries and risking their lives every time they go to work. Why would strapping themselves to another motorcycle and tearing down the asphalt at 300 km/h be preferable to sitting inside a relatively safe steel cage?
Hmm, the adrenalin rush, the challenge, the thrill off competition, the money, the fame, I think those are relevant reasons, otherwise why would you conclude MX and then chase a career in nascar?
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6/29/2012 6:59pm
i used to wonder this too but in america..there is no $$ in road bike racing.

and like others have said....it takes a life time of practice to master a certain kind of riding.
6/29/2012 7:37pm
motogrady wrote:
there's no money in it. roadracing that is. plus, it's not easy. you can get killed in a heartbeat. heck, one can only think of 2...
there's no money in it. roadracing that is.

plus, it's not easy. you can get killed in a heartbeat.

heck, one can only think of 2 guys that changed up and went racing, and won at it after mx.

Jeff Ward and Travis Pastrana.

Bayle did it, but did he win anything big on pavement?

Mike Hailwood made the transition from bikes to cars back in the day, but after those guys, who else
hasn't had the race beat out of them by motocross?
You forgot Steve Wise.

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