Edited Date/Time
1/27/2012 5:28pm
I about jumped out of my chair for how long he was holding up anstie, wouldve been a battle to the finish for the lead, but he made anstie drop at least 3 seconds on weimer... total disappointment. He was hauling.
This is a tough 1.
To bash is to bash plenty throughout the
season as many ignore the "BLUE FLAGS"
thrown at them..........
It's a problem indoors & out!
I watched it too, on TV & it showed it big time!
Personally, I've been to many riders meetings over the
yrs. & the AMA, etc., all stress these issues, yet many
still ignore it, & say what they will after.
For me, as in Football or other modern "up to speed sports",
the AMA needs to apply the "instant replay" to everything once the
gate drops.
Whether a rider says yea or nay, if something not cool is on tape,
if something just like this is on tape, or passing on yellow, what
ever, then it's "pay the price time" & FINE the rider!
To be PRO is to be PRO ALL THE WAY!
Gotta man up, words are just words, & all this stuff happens all
to much.
It's fixable, & do-able!
Dave O.
If riders see the blue flags and fail to open up the racing line they will be forced to install wing mirrors onto their bikes.
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I saw the same thing, but have a different view. Well, not much different, but I think the riders need a little help. The AMA is asking way too much of the riders while the blue flag is out. Help them out and the racing would be better.
sounds like a typical rider reply.......
For all involved innocent or not,
to learn is to learn & listen,
to ignore for whatever, is to pay!
If it's always just words, then it's always an issue!
Wanna get the mouse, trap him!
Skate within the rules, gotcha on film.
Please PAY as you leave...........
Maybe all law enforcement officers should just ask
us all to slow down, FINES work!
Dave O.
If a lapper is being lapped he should not be able to be passed by another lapper while the Blue Flag is out.
I was listening to everyone talking about lapped riders and how they get in the way and I thought that's a bunch of crap, their out there racing too and the riders that are being lapped should have some help out there and not just get Mother F'ed after every race. It's getting pretty old after hearing this for years.
Think about what a rider being lapped has to think about. First they get the blue flag, so the official is telling them to get out of the way and let the leader go by, that must not feel very good. Then if the rider being lapped has one or two other riders around them they're racing with and they are shown the blue flag, they would have to keep the riders that they've been racing with behind them but let the leaders pass? That would be hard to do, they would need eye's in the back of their head to be able to do this. The guys that are being lapped are being asked way too much of the situation and that is not fare. Then if they happen get in the way of the riders on the lead lap, everyone gets pissed off at them. This is bullshit! If the AMA officials don't want these problems, they would try to help "the lapped riders" out and make a rule that would keep riders from passing one another if they are shown the blue flag. After the leaders go by, they could go right back to racing and no one would be jumping up and down saying "that lapped rider screwed things up".
Why would the AMA fine a rider after the fact. If the officials step in after the problem happens, the rider on the lead lap that get's screwed doesn't get his position back or the points he could have earned. Fix the problem before it happens, not after it happens. It's called offensive, not defensive.
But it's racing...........
However, even when the AMA's done that lap thing here & there
as a penalty, she's back again by say another guy or 2.
Fines don't completely stop speeding, but then again, for the
initial blow, they help.
Getting it in the wallet always hurts.
Getting in the wallet makes you aware.
For me, it's gotta hit home more then say a lap or some points.
Sure those have a value, but so does the GREEN!
Dave O.
True?
Back in the day, these things didn't seem to happen and now a days it happens far too often.
Something needs to be done.
kept his nose to the grindstone & raced!
The race is always in 1 direction..........
FORWARDS........!
Dave O.
Pit Row
Sometimes if you are racing a gear higher, a back marker will sometimes try to move over, and when they do, they often move right into your committed line...
It's like another obstacle on the course.
When I race, I never take for granted a lapped rider is going to move over for me...
I just set them up, and make a pass.
If they fuck with me... Into the blocks they go !
Yes, I know it's shocking, but Hannah, Smith, Glover, Barnett, Ward and a few others lapped me in my brief pro career....
I'm not saying it was all Jeff Alessi's fault, because Jeff didn't want those other riders to pass him that he was racing with and yes, he could have mistaken Anstie as one of those guys. But Anstie wasn't one of those guys, he was the guy in 2nd place and it wreaked the raced and wreaked Anstie's 2nd place finish. Just a big bummer for all.
BUT IT ALL STARTED BECAUSE THERE'S NO REALLY UNDERSTANDING OR PENALTY FOR SCREWING THE LEADERS UP WHILE UNDER THE BLUE FLAG. IT ALL COMES BACK TO THIS EVERY TIME.
We can make all kinds of arguments for the leaders and the lappers, but it always comes back to the AMA / FIM not have or up holding the rules. All were looking for is a good race and this is what the fan's were robbed of.
That's racing, sometimes it works in your favor other times......not so much.
Everybody on the track is there to race right?
McCrummen did pass Alessi when Jeff backed out of the line for the leaders.
4.15 Flags and Lights
a. Operational Flags / Lights
1. Green Flag: Indicates the start of a race or clear track
conditions.
2. Checkered Flag: Indicates the end of a race or practice
session; proceed to the designated track exit.
3. Red Flag: Indicates the race has been stopped. Reduce
speed and proceed safely to the staging area.
4. Red Flashing Light: In Supercross, a red flashing light
may be displayed at the beginning of a triple jump or a
series of jumps. Riders must roll each jump individually with
no passing and exercise extreme caution until they are past
the area of concern.
5. Black Flag: Indicates a problem with a rider’s motorcycle or
a disqualification. A number board displayed with the flag
indicates the rider being signaled. The black flagged rider
must carefully reduce speed and proceed around the
course to the pit. Black-flagged riders are not permitted to
return to the racecourse unless cleared by the Race
Director.
b. Warning Flags
1. Yellow Flag:
Waving Yellow Flag: Indicates serious hazard on or near the
track.
• Passing is allowed
• Proceed with extreme caution.
2. Solid Blue Flag :
• Indicates you are about to be overtaken by faster
riders.
• When conditions allow, move out of the fast line.
• Hold your line (don’t ride erratically) and do not
impede the faster riders progress.
• Riders disregarding this flag may be black-flagged at
the discretion of Race Director.
3. White Flag with Red Cross:
In Supercross this flag or a red flashing light may be
displayed at the beginning of a triple jump or a series of
jumps. The riders must roll each jump individually with no
passing and exercise extreme caution until they are past the
area of concern.
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