Is Reed a privateer next year?

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Just wondering if he is eligible for top privateer?
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kevin204 11/9/2010 4:29pm
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He should be, I would think. If he's not, the AMA is more full of hypocrisy and contradictions than we ever realized.
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DJ KC 11/9/2010 4:33pm
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That is a good question...

Is he buying the Honda's or is Honda giving him bikes?

Is he getting any kind of Factory support from Honda?

What is Mitch's part in all of this?

Is he paying Pro Circuit to build the bikes?

Or is Pro-Circuit a sponsor?

So there are a lot of questions to be answered on that... If he is totally paying for it out of his pocket... Yeah... I would say he is a privateer this year.
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DJ KC wrote:
That is a good question... Is he buying the Honda's or is Honda giving him bikes? Is he getting any kind of Factory support from Honda...
That is a good question...

Is he buying the Honda's or is Honda giving him bikes?

Is he getting any kind of Factory support from Honda?

What is Mitch's part in all of this?

Is he paying Pro Circuit to build the bikes?

Or is Pro-Circuit a sponsor?

So there are a lot of questions to be answered on that... If he is totally paying for it out of his pocket... Yeah... I would say he is a privateer this year.
If you are given bikes by the manufacturer you are not a privateer? What is considered factory support? This is very gray.

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He said he was getting no support from the manufacturer.

How would PC building his engines disqualify him as a privateer? Pro Circuit is not a "factory"
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Wasnt Tommy Hahn considered privateer last year? If im wrong please disregard, but Reed has to be atleast as Privateer as Hahn
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DJ KC wrote:
That is a good question... Is he buying the Honda's or is Honda giving him bikes? Is he getting any kind of Factory support from Honda...
That is a good question...

Is he buying the Honda's or is Honda giving him bikes?

Is he getting any kind of Factory support from Honda?

What is Mitch's part in all of this?

Is he paying Pro Circuit to build the bikes?

Or is Pro-Circuit a sponsor?

So there are a lot of questions to be answered on that... If he is totally paying for it out of his pocket... Yeah... I would say he is a privateer this year.
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If you are given bikes by the manufacturer you are not a privateer? What is considered factory support? This is very gray.
Factory parts that the factory team is running and you can't buy over the counter or mail order. That kind of Factory Support.
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DJ KC wrote:
Factory parts that the factory team is running and you can't buy over the counter or mail order. That kind of Factory Support.
Even if he does get access to some "factory only" parts, he will still be paying for them out of his own budget. Paying for it yourself still = privateer.
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DJ KC wrote:
Factory parts that the factory team is running and you can't buy over the counter or mail order. That kind of Factory Support.
What about free bikes? What about getting factory mechanics?
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DJ KC wrote:
That is a good question... Is he buying the Honda's or is Honda giving him bikes? Is he getting any kind of Factory support from Honda...
That is a good question...

Is he buying the Honda's or is Honda giving him bikes?

Is he getting any kind of Factory support from Honda?

What is Mitch's part in all of this?

Is he paying Pro Circuit to build the bikes?

Or is Pro-Circuit a sponsor?

So there are a lot of questions to be answered on that... If he is totally paying for it out of his pocket... Yeah... I would say he is a privateer this year.
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If you are given bikes by the manufacturer you are not a privateer? What is considered factory support? This is very gray.
DJ KC wrote:
Factory parts that the factory team is running and you can't buy over the counter or mail order. That kind of Factory Support.
If they aren't coming from the OEM, then they are not factory.

Money can buy or build anything.
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There are and have been a lot of privateers that have got a free bike or bikes (2) from the manufacturers and that was it. Honda can give him bikes without any other support and be privateer. But we all know with today's bikes, you can build a bike to beat the factory bikes without factory parts. I just depends how fast you ride them.
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Is team green factory?
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I'd say if he is signing cheques himself then he is absolutely a privateer... Wasn't Hill and Ramsey etc in it for L&M?!

The rules are shit...
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Crush wrote:
I'd say if he is signing cheques himself then he is absolutely a privateer... Wasn't Hill and Ramsey etc in it for L&M?! The rules are...
I'd say if he is signing cheques himself then he is absolutely a privateer... Wasn't Hill and Ramsey etc in it for L&M?!

The rules are shit...
L&M gets Factory parts also.
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Its all starting to go like the MotoGP teams. OEM's cant afford teams run out of their own garage. Its a good move I reckon, hopefully attract outside non moto sponsors. Its a pretty good demographic.
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haydos25 wrote:
Wasnt Tommy Hahn considered privateer last year? If im wrong please disregard, but Reed has to be atleast as Privateer as Hahn
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I hear one of the richest sports figures in all of Australia is backing his efforts.....uhhh.....hang on..brb
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Honda may not be paying his salary but he will be getting whatever parts he needs because he can put thier bike on the podium. Its a win/win for Honda.
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Karma wrote:
Honda may not be paying his salary but he will be getting whatever parts he needs because he can put thier bike on the podium. Its...
Honda may not be paying his salary but he will be getting whatever parts he needs because he can put thier bike on the podium. Its a win/win for Honda.
I don't think he is getting shit from Honda.
No free bikes, no parts, nothing.
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Does this make Reed able to race the privateer race in Vegas?
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Karma wrote:
Honda may not be paying his salary but he will be getting whatever parts he needs because he can put thier bike on the podium. Its...
Honda may not be paying his salary but he will be getting whatever parts he needs because he can put thier bike on the podium. Its a win/win for Honda.
That can be said for any Honda rider. You think if Jimmy Decotis comes out and wins the first 3 rounds of super x this year that they wont find him a Geico bike to go for the championship? Doesn't mean he wasnt a privateer when he started the season.
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Doesn't seem like he's getting any factory support at all. So, that's privateer status in my book. As he said, he's writing his own checks out.....



Yeah, he's got some endorsements and support from some companies that give more support than an average privateer (Chad does bring a pretty solid resume to the table.). But from what it looks, he's paying for everything, being the role of team manager, and racing all at the same time. Sounds very privateer to me.....just not your classic "drive your van or pickup/on your last dime" story.



Plus, he's making his own decisions, which I'm sure he is loving now after being on factory teams for so long. Good change of pace I'd say.
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Not a popular opinion here but I would venture to say Chad will not be paying much, if anything. If PC gives Hanson a Pro-circuit Kaw, or the local pro I know gets a free Honda, lets get real here!
Honda doesn't have to pay his salary just like Yamaha does't pay James a dime, but they do give James every bit of technical and factory parts he needs because he puts thier brand on top of the podium. ie he rides a factory bike! Honda would be stupid not too as well. Chad gives them thier only chance to beat James and get a title.
Also Chad is a shrewd businessman. Bel-ray will be paying a lot of money to be on his team, and don't be surprised to see Chad show up at A-1 with a Verizon rig or some other huge sponsor like James has in L&M. Word has it he has a friend in Aus with bottomless pockets. I suspect he has had a huge sponsor in his pocket for quite some time now but hasn't let on ...yet.
And don't forget, now that he is on a bike that suits him, he is the favorite to win the outdoor title IMHO.
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No comment! Whistling Actually what does it matter? Factory riders are getting the awards every year anyway. Doesn't everyone know by now that it is a hush hush topic? Don't talk about it or else!

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According to Kenneth Watson, there is no top privateer fund this year, the guys at Feld are going to take that money that they pay out and dump it into the LCQ to make sure the guys who don't make the main make more money.

So end of debate.


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Matthes wrote:
According to Kenneth Watson, there is no top privateer fund this year, the guys at Feld are going to take that money that they pay out...
According to Kenneth Watson, there is no top privateer fund this year, the guys at Feld are going to take that money that they pay out and dump it into the LCQ to make sure the guys who don't make the main make more money.

So end of debate.


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Way to ruin a good thread Steve! LOL!
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Matthes wrote:
According to Kenneth Watson, there is no top privateer fund this year, the guys at Feld are going to take that money that they pay out...
According to Kenneth Watson, there is no top privateer fund this year, the guys at Feld are going to take that money that they pay out and dump it into the LCQ to make sure the guys who don't make the main make more money.

So end of debate.


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That would be much better.

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