If Stewy came back, does he beat Reed?

uneasy_rider wrote:

You may want to examine those records a little closer. Except for the Lites class (chad only lites 2 years), they have the same number of...

You may want to examine those records a little closer. Except for the Lites class (chad only lites 2 years), they have the same number of titles, indoors and out. JS has 6 more SX wins than Chad, which is cool, but not dominating by any stretch. Its cool to be a fan of the guy, but your facts are wrong and your opinion is biased.

theprizefighter wrote:

Reed never beat Stewart for a title when they raced together for the series, where as Stewart did beat Reed. Stewart was almost always faster and...

Reed never beat Stewart for a title when they raced together for the series, where as Stewart did beat Reed. Stewart was almost always faster and could catch and pass Reed almost at will in his prime as evidenced by how quickly James amassed his wins. Reed had been in the class for two seasons before James entered. James did a 24-0.
Stats, while a big part of it, aren’t the entire picture. Dungey has as many sx titles as RV, and not many more wins. Dungey has more 450 outdoor titles and wins than RV, but most people agree that RV had Dungey covered, much like Stewart did Reed.

Also, when looking at all-time greats, lites records are included. I don’t think that there’s much of an argument James will higher on the list than Reed.

uneasy_rider wrote:

Stats dont lie, you can say it as much as you want, but the record books dont lie. Since you want to play the he only...

Stats dont lie, you can say it as much as you want, but the record books dont lie. Since you want to play the he only won because card, who was Stews main competition when he went 24-0? Oh, thats right........

RandyS wrote:

Anyone who thinks Stewart had a more successful career needs to put down the bong. Stewart was expected to rewrite the record books, failed miserably based...

Anyone who thinks Stewart had a more successful career needs to put down the bong. Stewart was expected to rewrite the record books, failed miserably based on expectations and promise. Reed flew halfway around the world with no expectations and challenged and beat the best through multiple generations and rewrote the record books on what a career can be.

RandyS wrote:

Anyone who thinks Stewart had a more successful career needs to put down the bong. Stewart was expected to rewrite the record books, failed miserably based...

Anyone who thinks Stewart had a more successful career needs to put down the bong. Stewart was expected to rewrite the record books, failed miserably based on expectations and promise. Reed flew halfway around the world with no expectations and challenged and beat the best through multiple generations and rewrote the record books on what a career can be.

Park Boys wrote:

I’m trying to think of all the races Reed won against Stewart in SX and it’s hard. 2 in 05 (Stew crashed in both). 2 in...

I’m trying to think of all the races Reed won against Stewart in SX and it’s hard. 2 in 05 (Stew crashed in both). 2 in 06 Stew and RC had to have bad luck, 1 in 07 Stew crashed, 1 in 08 when he crashed in the start and then beats Reed with a blown out knee and bows out. 3 in 09. 2 in 11. 1 in 12 and 2 in 14. Even thought they have been racing each other for 10 years, A2 in 14 was the first time Reed won a race against Stewart with out him crashing. Of Reeds wins only 14 were against Stewart and of Stewart’s 50 SX wins I believe 45 of em had Reed.

Stewart’s career in a sense was a disappointment even though he is second all time in Wins, but to say Reed had a better career is insane. Prime Reed was smoked by Stewart so so many times. Stewart won 13 races against Reed in 07 alone vs Reed having 14 wins vs Stew in his career.

RandyS wrote:

Anyone who thinks Stewart had a more successful career needs to put down the bong. Stewart was expected to rewrite the record books, failed miserably based...

Anyone who thinks Stewart had a more successful career needs to put down the bong. Stewart was expected to rewrite the record books, failed miserably based on expectations and promise. Reed flew halfway around the world with no expectations and challenged and beat the best through multiple generations and rewrote the record books on what a career can be.

Park Boys wrote:

I’m trying to think of all the races Reed won against Stewart in SX and it’s hard. 2 in 05 (Stew crashed in both). 2 in...

I’m trying to think of all the races Reed won against Stewart in SX and it’s hard. 2 in 05 (Stew crashed in both). 2 in 06 Stew and RC had to have bad luck, 1 in 07 Stew crashed, 1 in 08 when he crashed in the start and then beats Reed with a blown out knee and bows out. 3 in 09. 2 in 11. 1 in 12 and 2 in 14. Even thought they have been racing each other for 10 years, A2 in 14 was the first time Reed won a race against Stewart with out him crashing. Of Reeds wins only 14 were against Stewart and of Stewart’s 50 SX wins I believe 45 of em had Reed.

Stewart’s career in a sense was a disappointment even though he is second all time in Wins, but to say Reed had a better career is insane. Prime Reed was smoked by Stewart so so many times. Stewart won 13 races against Reed in 07 alone vs Reed having 14 wins vs Stew in his career.

uneasy_rider wrote:

In the grand Scheme of things, they both have the same number of premiere class titles, and Stew has a handful of total race wins more...

In the grand Scheme of things, they both have the same number of premiere class titles, and Stew has a handful of total race wins more than Reed. It all boils down to who we are a bigger fan of. In the end Stew had a few more wins, but the fact that "Reed only won because Stew wasnt there" is a BS justification. I say Reed didnt crash out, you have to play to win, if you crash out and the other guy didnt, you got beat!