For any of you criticizing Christian Craig RE: MXdN

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Edited Date/Time 8/4/2022 5:36am
Somehow J. Sloan's thread was deleted? Don't worry, I saved it just in case. Happy to help a brother out.



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TalinH112 7/28/2022 8:20am
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GrapeApe wrote:
Somehow J. Sloan's thread was deleted? Don't worry, I saved it just in case. Happy to help a brother out. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/07/28/561602/s1200_Screenshot_81.jpg[/img]
Somehow J. Sloan's thread was deleted? Don't worry, I saved it just in case. Happy to help a brother out.



It moved to the Dumbgeon
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Johnny Ringo 7/28/2022 8:23am
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If anyone is worried about CC handling the pressure and staying upright remember we put TRAVIS PASTRANA on the team once
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Mr. Afterbar 7/28/2022 9:36am
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GrapeApe wrote:
Somehow J. Sloan's thread was deleted? Don't worry, I saved it just in case. Happy to help a brother out. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/07/28/561602/s1200_Screenshot_81.jpg[/img]
Somehow J. Sloan's thread was deleted? Don't worry, I saved it just in case. Happy to help a brother out.



TalinH112 wrote:
It moved to the Dumbgeon
Where it belongs.
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Mr. Afterbar 7/28/2022 9:38am
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
If anyone is worried about CC handling the pressure and staying upright remember we put TRAVIS PASTRANA on the team once
National Champion Travis Pastrana? Possibly the fastest 125 rider in the world at the time? What a terrible idea.
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TalinH112 wrote:
It moved to the Dumbgeon
I don't see it. I think he clipped it.
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TalinH112 7/28/2022 9:52am
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It had the makings to be an all timer! 😂
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GrapeApe wrote:
Somehow J. Sloan's thread was deleted? Don't worry, I saved it just in case. Happy to help a brother out. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/07/28/561602/s1200_Screenshot_81.jpg[/img]
Somehow J. Sloan's thread was deleted? Don't worry, I saved it just in case. Happy to help a brother out.



TalinH112 wrote:
It moved to the Dumbgeon
Mr. Afterbar wrote:
Where it belongs.
I’m of the opinion that if my threads are to be moved anywhere, they should be moved to the HOF.
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Boomslang 7/28/2022 10:04am
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Craig is going to be the right man for the job alongside Eli and Sexton.

The Dutch are coming with a power house and the Aussies are licking their chops....

This year is gonna be good and all I ask is that it doesn't rain.
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TalinH112 7/28/2022 10:09am
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TalinH112 wrote:
It moved to the Dumbgeon
Mr. Afterbar wrote:
Where it belongs.
J. Sloan wrote:
I’m of the opinion that if my threads are to be moved anywhere, they should be moved to the HOF.
I concur 😂
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Wil Denis 7/28/2022 10:21am
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CC in my opinion is the best choice.
He has well and truly earned the spot this year.
250sx champion
In 450 outdoors has finished 9/18 motos in the top 5 of the 450 class & 4 moto podium finishes.
He gets good starts, he obviously would be on a Star 250f, to me it’s a no brainer.
I think J coop is just as capable, it’s splitting hairs between the 2 of them but going off CC’s season you would say that has earned him the starting position in mx2.
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MX Guy 7/28/2022 11:05am
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I think we’re gonna get smoked regardless.
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TalinH112 7/28/2022 11:08am
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MX Guy wrote:
I think we’re gonna get smoked regardless.
That’s the kind of positive attitude I’m used to around here!
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mxracer828 7/28/2022 11:35am
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Wil Denis wrote:
CC in my opinion is the best choice. He has well and truly earned the spot this year. 250sx champion In 450 outdoors has finished 9/18...
CC in my opinion is the best choice.
He has well and truly earned the spot this year.
250sx champion
In 450 outdoors has finished 9/18 motos in the top 5 of the 450 class & 4 moto podium finishes.
He gets good starts, he obviously would be on a Star 250f, to me it’s a no brainer.
I think J coop is just as capable, it’s splitting hairs between the 2 of them but going off CC’s season you would say that has earned him the starting position in mx2.
He’s rides a 450 way better then a 250. He even said he dosent like to ring it out like these kids do….well if you get picked you better start learning because the 250 ride is prob more important then the two 450 guys. I see Craig going 6-9 and that won’t be good enough .
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Johnny Ringo 7/28/2022 11:39am
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
If anyone is worried about CC handling the pressure and staying upright remember we put TRAVIS PASTRANA on the team once
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National Champion Travis Pastrana? Possibly the fastest 125 rider in the world at the time? What a terrible idea.
He rode half the year with a cast on. Travis was amazing. But when the team was selected it was shit on because he was a wildcard (and not yet in the points lead FYI) and Ryno had been hurt/terrible in the GPs

My point is, Craig is far from the loose cannon that Travis was, and Travis worked out awesome in 2000.
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MX Guy 7/28/2022 12:16pm
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TalinH112 wrote:
That’s the kind of positive attitude I’m used to around here!
I will say one thing I’m incredibly excited for is probably the only chance we will ever get to see Jett vs Eli
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500 Mike 7/28/2022 12:22pm
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I'm not really a CC fan but I think he is the right choice for MXdN.
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gt80rider 7/28/2022 12:56pm
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Imma gonna go with Bubba..... if we actually want to win MXDN... we gotta send guys that are not just fast, but winning level fast outdoors... not Dumb dumb and craig racing for "9th and 10th".... but someone like J Cooper who beat the guys that we will have to beat to get that MXDN title (Jett and Hunter)..... I really like Craig, and dude has insane speed.... but Cooper is nearly healed and showed last weekend that he has the raw speed to put us on the top step of the podium at Des Nations..
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TalinH112 7/28/2022 1:03pm
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TalinH112 wrote:
That’s the kind of positive attitude I’m used to around here!
MX Guy wrote:
I will say one thing I’m incredibly excited for is probably the only chance we will ever get to see Jett vs Eli
Now that my friend is worth tuning in for! Hadn’t thought about that until you said something, now I’m super stoked!
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Wil Denis wrote:
CC in my opinion is the best choice. He has well and truly earned the spot this year. 250sx champion In 450 outdoors has finished 9/18...
CC in my opinion is the best choice.
He has well and truly earned the spot this year.
250sx champion
In 450 outdoors has finished 9/18 motos in the top 5 of the 450 class & 4 moto podium finishes.
He gets good starts, he obviously would be on a Star 250f, to me it’s a no brainer.
I think J coop is just as capable, it’s splitting hairs between the 2 of them but going off CC’s season you would say that has earned him the starting position in mx2.
mxracer828 wrote:
He’s rides a 450 way better then a 250. He even said he dosent like to ring it out like these kids do….well if you get...
He’s rides a 450 way better then a 250. He even said he dosent like to ring it out like these kids do….well if you get picked you better start learning because the 250 ride is prob more important then the two 450 guys. I see Craig going 6-9 and that won’t be good enough .
6-9 would be great imo. I’d expect him to be 10-15
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Press516 7/28/2022 1:48pm
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Wil Denis wrote:
CC in my opinion is the best choice. He has well and truly earned the spot this year. 250sx champion In 450 outdoors has finished 9/18...
CC in my opinion is the best choice.
He has well and truly earned the spot this year.
250sx champion
In 450 outdoors has finished 9/18 motos in the top 5 of the 450 class & 4 moto podium finishes.
He gets good starts, he obviously would be on a Star 250f, to me it’s a no brainer.
I think J coop is just as capable, it’s splitting hairs between the 2 of them but going off CC’s season you would say that has earned him the starting position in mx2.
mxracer828 wrote:
He’s rides a 450 way better then a 250. He even said he dosent like to ring it out like these kids do….well if you get...
He’s rides a 450 way better then a 250. He even said he dosent like to ring it out like these kids do….well if you get picked you better start learning because the 250 ride is prob more important then the two 450 guys. I see Craig going 6-9 and that won’t be good enough .
soggy wrote:
6-9 would be great imo. I’d expect him to be 10-15
Yeah, if you factor in a 6 with Sexton and Tomac's finishes, you are on the top step...
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Wil Denis wrote:
CC in my opinion is the best choice. He has well and truly earned the spot this year. 250sx champion In 450 outdoors has finished 9/18...
CC in my opinion is the best choice.
He has well and truly earned the spot this year.
250sx champion
In 450 outdoors has finished 9/18 motos in the top 5 of the 450 class & 4 moto podium finishes.
He gets good starts, he obviously would be on a Star 250f, to me it’s a no brainer.
I think J coop is just as capable, it’s splitting hairs between the 2 of them but going off CC’s season you would say that has earned him the starting position in mx2.
mxracer828 wrote:
He’s rides a 450 way better then a 250. He even said he dosent like to ring it out like these kids do….well if you get...
He’s rides a 450 way better then a 250. He even said he dosent like to ring it out like these kids do….well if you get picked you better start learning because the 250 ride is prob more important then the two 450 guys. I see Craig going 6-9 and that won’t be good enough .
I think Christian would be lucky to break into the top 10 at mxon. Hope I am wrong cause it's looking like they will pick him.
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tobz 7/28/2022 2:32pm
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If it’s a MXdN for kids then Craig is your man for the job!
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motomike137 7/28/2022 2:36pm
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gt80rider wrote:
Imma gonna go with Bubba..... if we actually want to win MXDN... we gotta send guys that are not just fast, but winning level fast outdoors...
Imma gonna go with Bubba..... if we actually want to win MXDN... we gotta send guys that are not just fast, but winning level fast outdoors... not Dumb dumb and craig racing for "9th and 10th".... but someone like J Cooper who beat the guys that we will have to beat to get that MXDN title (Jett and Hunter)..... I really like Craig, and dude has insane speed.... but Cooper is nearly healed and showed last weekend that he has the raw speed to put us on the top step of the podium at Des Nations..
Cooper is a holeshot artist, Craig not so much. Cooper historically rides his best when he holeshots. If he rips one great start at MXdN he will likely podium the moto. I just don't picture Craig starting well and he isn't going to "ride forward" very far against half a field of 450's.
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DonM 7/28/2022 3:23pm
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gt80rider wrote:
Imma gonna go with Bubba..... if we actually want to win MXDN... we gotta send guys that are not just fast, but winning level fast outdoors...
Imma gonna go with Bubba..... if we actually want to win MXDN... we gotta send guys that are not just fast, but winning level fast outdoors... not Dumb dumb and craig racing for "9th and 10th".... but someone like J Cooper who beat the guys that we will have to beat to get that MXDN title (Jett and Hunter)..... I really like Craig, and dude has insane speed.... but Cooper is nearly healed and showed last weekend that he has the raw speed to put us on the top step of the podium at Des Nations..
motomike137 wrote:
Cooper is a holeshot artist, Craig not so much. Cooper historically rides his best when he holeshots. If he rips one great start at MXdN he...
Cooper is a holeshot artist, Craig not so much. Cooper historically rides his best when he holeshots. If he rips one great start at MXdN he will likely podium the moto. I just don't picture Craig starting well and he isn't going to "ride forward" very far against half a field of 450's.
CC's avg start this year is 8.5 with 0 holeshots
Cooper's avg start is 7.1 with 4 holeshots So Cooper has been less consistent in his starts than CC
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KurtJ99 7/28/2022 4:54pm
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I miss the good old days when we won every year and it didn't matter who went....
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J. Sloan 7/28/2022 6:25pm
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DonM wrote:
CC's avg start this year is 8.5 with 0 holeshots Cooper's avg start is 7.1 with 4 holeshots So Cooper has been less consistent in his...
CC's avg start this year is 8.5 with 0 holeshots
Cooper's avg start is 7.1 with 4 holeshots So Cooper has been less consistent in his starts than CC
Yes, CC has been more consistent on being a worse starter than Justin Cooper.
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