Christophe's Case....

St Ann More wrote:

He didn't lose the 2007 MX2 Championship - Cairoli had him handled and was 124 points ahead before the GP of Ireland where Christophe was injured...

He didn't lose the 2007 MX2 Championship - Cairoli had him handled and was 124 points ahead before the GP of Ireland where Christophe was injured! Frankly, if anything, Pourcel was lucky to win the 2006 title because Cairoli had mechanicals! CP has a ~ 9% moto win average in the GP's (MX1 and MX2).

B-Rad317 wrote:

touche, maybe thats just proof that he doesn't gel with the 450, and the 350 would suit his style better? but lets not forget that his...

touche, maybe thats just proof that he doesn't gel with the 450, and the 350 would suit his style better? but lets not forget that his KX was pretty much a stock machine compared to desalle, cairoli, and paulin's ZOOK, KTM, and KAWI...you can't forget that

B-Rad317 wrote:

Christophe Pourcel RESUME -2009 & 2010 Sx Lites East champion -2006 MX2 world champion -Won 12 of 19 Sx Lites races entered -Won 22 of 48...

Christophe Pourcel
RESUME
-2009 & 2010 Sx Lites East champion
-2006 MX2 world champion
-Won 12 of 19 Sx Lites races entered
-Won 22 of 48 Mx Lites motos entered
-Only rider to beat Ryan Villopoto in 2007 Lites West Championship (entered 2 races, Placed 2nd and 1st in races entered)
-Beat Ryan Dungey in the 2009 East/West Shootout (only time they ever faced each other in Sx)
-Beat Tony Cairoli(2005 & 2007 MX2 World Champion, 2009 & 2010 MX1 WorldChampion), Tyla Rattray(2008 MX2 World Champion), David Philiapaerts(2008 MX1 World Champion), and Tommy Searle(2nd in 2008 Mx2 World Championship, and 12 time British National Championships)
-2009 King of Bercy
-Lost 2009 MX2 Championship to Ryan Dungey due to mechanical failure in the mud at Southwick (Won 13 of 24 motos to Ryan Dungey’s 7 moto wins, that’s a 54% moto win percentage for Christophe to Ryan’s 29% moto win percentage)
-Lifetime 46% MX Lites moto win percentage
-63% SX Lites main event win percentage
-Lost 2010 MX2 Championship to Trey Canard due to DNF at last round (crashed out)
Christophe won 9 of 24 motos to Trey’s 11 moto wins
-That’s a 37% moto win percentage for Christophe, to Trey’s 45% moto win percentage
Trey beat him straight up
-Lost 2007 MX2 World Championship when he crashed at the Ireland Round when landing on a down rider over a blind tabletop (ironically fellow Frenchman Nicolas Aubin)
-Average finish of 1.50 in Vurbmoto’s average SX finish to Ryan Dungey’s 2.53 average
-Average finish of 2.75 in Vurbmoto’s average MX finish to Ryan Dungey’s 3.00 average
-Confined to a wheel chair for 6 months, 70% chance of being paralyzed from waste down for life.

St Ann More wrote:

He didn't lose the 2007 MX2 Championship - Cairoli had him handled and was 124 points ahead before the GP of Ireland where Christophe was injured...

He didn't lose the 2007 MX2 Championship - Cairoli had him handled and was 124 points ahead before the GP of Ireland where Christophe was injured! Frankly, if anything, Pourcel was lucky to win the 2006 title because Cairoli had mechanicals! CP has a ~ 9% moto win average in the GP's (MX1 and MX2).

B-Rad317 wrote:

touche, maybe thats just proof that he doesn't gel with the 450, and the 350 would suit his style better? but lets not forget that his...

touche, maybe thats just proof that he doesn't gel with the 450, and the 350 would suit his style better? but lets not forget that his KX was pretty much a stock machine compared to desalle, cairoli, and paulin's ZOOK, KTM, and KAWI...you can't forget that

St Ann More wrote:

His moto win average, even in MX2, wasn't that great at all against Cairoli!

St Ann More wrote:

His moto win average, even in MX2, wasn't that great at all against Cairoli!

B-Rad317 wrote:

ah your right, im begining he to suspect that he just sucks at the GP's. maybe his hearts not into it, maybe he just doesnt feel...

ah your right, im begining he to suspect that he just sucks at the GP's. maybe his hearts not into it, maybe he just doesnt feel like it's the marqee racing series in the world so he doesn't take it as serious. who knows, but as you said, he does seem to do worse in the GP's. and thats no knock against them GP's because i feel like they're on par with the AMA series in terms of competition and tracks, just trying to figure out whats going on in his head

B-Rad317 wrote:

that and cairoli has just whooped his ass every year except for 06, and that year cairoli had mechanical problems in 4 or 5 motos.

B-Rad317 wrote:

Christophe Pourcel RESUME -2009 & 2010 Sx Lites East champion -2006 MX2 world champion -Won 12 of 19 Sx Lites races entered -Won 22 of 48...

Christophe Pourcel
RESUME
-2009 & 2010 Sx Lites East champion
-2006 MX2 world champion
-Won 12 of 19 Sx Lites races entered
-Won 22 of 48 Mx Lites motos entered
-Only rider to beat Ryan Villopoto in 2007 Lites West Championship (entered 2 races, Placed 2nd and 1st in races entered)
-Beat Ryan Dungey in the 2009 East/West Shootout (only time they ever faced each other in Sx)
-Beat Tony Cairoli(2005 & 2007 MX2 World Champion, 2009 & 2010 MX1 WorldChampion), Tyla Rattray(2008 MX2 World Champion), David Philiapaerts(2008 MX1 World Champion), and Tommy Searle(2nd in 2008 Mx2 World Championship, and 12 time British National Championships)
-2009 King of Bercy
-Lost 2009 MX2 Championship to Ryan Dungey due to mechanical failure in the mud at Southwick (Won 13 of 24 motos to Ryan Dungey’s 7 moto wins, that’s a 54% moto win percentage for Christophe to Ryan’s 29% moto win percentage)
-Lifetime 46% MX Lites moto win percentage
-63% SX Lites main event win percentage
-Lost 2010 MX2 Championship to Trey Canard due to DNF at last round (crashed out)
Christophe won 9 of 24 motos to Trey’s 11 moto wins
-That’s a 37% moto win percentage for Christophe, to Trey’s 45% moto win percentage
Trey beat him straight up
-Lost 2007 MX2 World Championship when he crashed at the Ireland Round when landing on a down rider over a blind tabletop (ironically fellow Frenchman Nicolas Aubin)
-Average finish of 1.50 in Vurbmoto’s average SX finish to Ryan Dungey’s 2.53 average
-Average finish of 2.75 in Vurbmoto’s average MX finish to Ryan Dungey’s 3.00 average
-Confined to a wheel chair for 6 months, 70% chance of being paralyzed from waste down for life.

TriRacer27 wrote:

Wait, so when he looses a championship due to a mechanical you consider him to still have been the best rider (2009 MX2 Motocross), but when...

Wait, so when he looses a championship due to a mechanical you consider him to still have been the best rider (2009 MX2 Motocross), but when he wins due to someone else's mechanical (2006 GPs)?


Besides, NONE of that matters, that was years ago and in a different class. I love your 7th point, that he beat Cairoli, Rattray, Philapaerts, etc. Well guess what?

- Alessi used to beat everyone on 80s
- Josh Grant used to beat Trey Canard on 250s
- J-Law beat Dungey in a lite's SX title
- Eric Sorby almost beat JS259
- Travis Preston once beat James Stewart in a championship, and in supercross no less!
- Heck, I think even David Pingree almost won a Lites title if it wasn't for a mechanical. Pingree!

Do all of them deserve factory rides this year too?

B-Rad317 wrote:

yes he was the better rider that year (09) thats kind of obvious he just lost because of dumb luck, and i never said he was...

yes he was the better rider that year (09) thats kind of obvious he just lost because of dumb luck, and i never said he was the best rider in 06,i just pointed out that he beat those guys in the standings that year,just a fact dude. oh and i think Cairoli, philiapaerts, and rattray were pretty damn good 250 riders

oh and also
-this was all on 250's, not 80's
-when exactly did jg33 beat canard on 250's i need proof of this shit?
-J-law doesnt race professionally anymore
-sorby doesnt race anymore
-preston is a riding coach
-and pingree was a good rider, better than me or you anyways.
-and P.S. most of them did have factory contracts at one point dude
preston with both honda and kawi
sorby with P/C kawi
pingree with KTM
Alessi with suzuki and KTM
grant with geico and factory honda
and j-law with amped mobile/troy yamaha wich was basically yamahas 250 team.

B-Rad317 wrote:

that and cairoli has just whooped his ass every year except for 06, and that year cairoli had mechanical problems in 4 or 5 motos.

St Ann More wrote:

I don't think it's a case 'he just sucks at the GP's' - in my opinion, Cairoli simply doesn't get the respect he deserves! In the...

I don't think it's a case 'he just sucks at the GP's' - in my opinion, Cairoli simply doesn't get the respect he deserves!

In the three years they raced MX2:

CP won 9 out of 88 motos

AC won 42 out of 88 motos

Whether it's riding a 250 or 450 little has changed between them - CP has won 3 motos riding the 450 this season and won 4 motos when he won the 250 title back in 2006.

B-Rad317 wrote:

i like and agree with your points, cairoli basically gets shat on when it comes to respect, no one does give him the credit he deserves...

i like and agree with your points, cairoli basically gets shat on when it comes to respect, no one does give him the credit he deserves includng myself in this post. but it's interesting that he (christophe) seems to do better in the AMA and show more emotion than he does in the GP's, i just feel like his heart was more into the nats. and when his hearts into it he tends to do better. and i think i even remember him saying he didn't plan on winning the 06 championship, that it just kind of fell into his lap and he ended up winning the thing. he did turn it on the last two or three Gp's that year (06) though, i think he won like 3 of the last four motos against cairoli to seal the championship, correct me if im wrong

B-Rad317 wrote:

yes he was the better rider that year (09) thats kind of obvious he just lost because of dumb luck, and i never said he was...

yes he was the better rider that year (09) thats kind of obvious he just lost because of dumb luck, and i never said he was the best rider in 06,i just pointed out that he beat those guys in the standings that year,just a fact dude. oh and i think Cairoli, philiapaerts, and rattray were pretty damn good 250 riders

oh and also
-this was all on 250's, not 80's
-when exactly did jg33 beat canard on 250's i need proof of this shit?
-J-law doesnt race professionally anymore
-sorby doesnt race anymore
-preston is a riding coach
-and pingree was a good rider, better than me or you anyways.
-and P.S. most of them did have factory contracts at one point dude
preston with both honda and kawi
sorby with P/C kawi
pingree with KTM
Alessi with suzuki and KTM
grant with geico and factory honda
and j-law with amped mobile/troy yamaha wich was basically yamahas 250 team.

Berguven wrote:

wow nice reply. you just owned that poor bastard

B-Rad317 wrote:

thanks, i try man

HenryA wrote:

This place will explode If CP377 rides his almost stock Ktm 350 to the top of the podium at A1.

ocscottie wrote:

Well next time simply REPLY to the thread that is already going, Its not rocket surgery

B-Rad317 wrote:

Christophe Pourcel RESUME -2009 & 2010 Sx Lites East champion -2006 MX2 world champion -Won 12 of 19 Sx Lites races entered -Won 22 of 48...

Christophe Pourcel
RESUME
-2009 & 2010 Sx Lites East champion
-2006 MX2 world champion
-Won 12 of 19 Sx Lites races entered
-Won 22 of 48 Mx Lites motos entered
-Only rider to beat Ryan Villopoto in 2007 Lites West Championship (entered 2 races, Placed 2nd and 1st in races entered)
-Beat Ryan Dungey in the 2009 East/West Shootout (only time they ever faced each other in Sx)
-Beat Tony Cairoli(2005 & 2007 MX2 World Champion, 2009 & 2010 MX1 WorldChampion), Tyla Rattray(2008 MX2 World Champion), David Philiapaerts(2008 MX1 World Champion), and Tommy Searle(2nd in 2008 Mx2 World Championship, and 12 time British National Championships)
-2009 King of Bercy
-Lost 2009 MX2 Championship to Ryan Dungey due to mechanical failure in the mud at Southwick (Won 13 of 24 motos to Ryan Dungey’s 7 moto wins, that’s a 54% moto win percentage for Christophe to Ryan’s 29% moto win percentage)
-Lifetime 46% MX Lites moto win percentage
-63% SX Lites main event win percentage
-Lost 2010 MX2 Championship to Trey Canard due to DNF at last round (crashed out)
Christophe won 9 of 24 motos to Trey’s 11 moto wins
-That’s a 37% moto win percentage for Christophe, to Trey’s 45% moto win percentage
Trey beat him straight up
-Lost 2007 MX2 World Championship when he crashed at the Ireland Round when landing on a down rider over a blind tabletop (ironically fellow Frenchman Nicolas Aubin)
-Average finish of 1.50 in Vurbmoto’s average SX finish to Ryan Dungey’s 2.53 average
-Average finish of 2.75 in Vurbmoto’s average MX finish to Ryan Dungey’s 3.00 average
-Confined to a wheel chair for 6 months, 70% chance of being paralyzed from waste down for life.