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old-fat-tired Started a new thread I CALLED IT!, I CALLED IT!

1/27/2012 12:00pm
DMG Quote “So our goal is to try to build this sport to a point where there are professional teams who are sponsored and who have an entity of their own, much like Richard Childress Racing is in NASCAR. And that’s not just in AMA road racing, that needs to be true across the board. If it comes down to...
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old-fat-tired Started a new thread The 'NOT SO AMATEUR'-Amateur Nationals

1/25/2012 2:43am
I was in Dallas last week for business and decided to stay over and attend the Lake Whitney Spring Classic. I wanted to get a view of the Amateur Scene and since I don't have any kids I joined up with a buddy of mine who's son was racing. My friend is a fairly wealthy guy, big Motorhome, awesome bikes...
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old-fat-tired Started a new thread NASCAR, The AMA and the Transition

1/24/2012 3:19pm
I've been watching this board for months and finally decided to post so before I get all of the STFU's and NOOB comments I have something for you to ponder... If anyone here thinks Joe Gibbs Racing just happened to show up because Coy was bored; think again. JGR is a multimillion dollar operation and at the top of the...
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old-fat-tired Started a new thread DMG, The AMA and the Transition

1/24/2012 7:56am
Again, my original post (NASCAR, The AMA and the Transition) was about NASCAR teams moving in, not NASCAR in particular which didn't happen. Although having DMG led by Mr. France undoubtedly makes this look like a subsidiary of NASCAR, but thats another topic. My original point was NASCAR TEAMS ARE MOVING IN. FACTORY TEAMS ARE MOVING OUT, and the sport...
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old-fat-tired Started a new thread Goodbye and Thank You

1/23/2012 3:15pm
Isn't life ironic. This will be my last post for a while and with all sincerity I wish all of you the best. By the time I return (hopefully) The election will be over and the debates about who will be the next President will have ended. I cannot say this with enough emphasis. I really enjoyed the debates (although...
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old-fat-tired Added a reply to setting up a race track

4/16/2016 6:28pm
[quote="txmxer":1pvjj47u]OFT...I think you are saying the numbers are meaningless...this is a pretty good list of the items that need to be considered? I understand it's pro-forma, but are those numbers real for a track that you have been involved with? Were they a projected business plan? I'm asking because your post implies that these are actual numbers for a particular...

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4/16/2016 6:27pm
[quote="huck":2kcvikoo][quote="old-fat-tired":2kcvikoo] Huck and CampP, I would love to sit here and have a battle of wits with you, but you both are obviously unarmed. One more time for the intelectually challenged.....THIS IS NOT HIS PRO_FORMA, IT IS A TEMPLATE, Fill in the numbers per your market area; that inludes land costs, equipment leasing, etc... What was given means nothing without...

old-fat-tired Added a reply to setting up a race track

4/16/2016 6:27pm
[quote="CamP":2us4pxse][quote="huck":2us4pxse][quote="old-fat-tired":2us4pxse] You didn;t look very close then as you missed the Heavy Equipment Lease Payments and Down Payments. Again, The pro-forma was done for a different track I just wanted to give some guidelines as a lot of people miss all of the costs associated with running a track.[/quote:2us4pxse] The numbers are VERY misleading. You can't buy 100 acres anywhere...

old-fat-tired Added a reply to setting up a race track

4/16/2016 6:27pm
[quote="JustMX"]Those estimates are out in la la land in the current economy. Besides the Sub-Prime Mortagage problem and higher than average Gas prices what's wrong with the economy? You need to read before you criticize. I'll say this slowly so you can get it ........It..... is..... a.... Pro-Forma, the guy needs guidelines, the numbers aren't for his track. He needs...

old-fat-tired Added a reply to setting up a race track

4/16/2016 6:27pm
One More Thing.....Look for land Near a Prison or Landfill. It is the cheapest and you'll have less problem with approvals as the land near a Prison or Landfill is typically undesireable and if the County can find a way to generate Tax revenue from "Dead" land they are much more likely to get you approved quickly.

old-fat-tired Added a reply to setting up a race track

4/16/2016 6:27pm
[quote="huck":35x9hdlb][quote="CamP":35x9hdlb][quote="huck":35x9hdlb]Those numbers aren't very realistic.[/quote:35x9hdlb] Not at all, especially the land cost, unless you want to buy land near Lubbock.[/quote:35x9hdlb] I first looked at it and thought maybe they meant $100,000 per year for the land... Just to pick a couple more apart... 350 riders for EVERY race is also VERY unrealistic. I didn't see a water truck/irrigation either. Start...

old-fat-tired Added a reply to setting up a race track

4/16/2016 6:27pm
[quote="mx_ell":3geehreg]thats funny! Care to explain?[/quote:3geehreg] It is a Pro Forma from another track that I put together a while back. If you know how to use XL I would plug the numbers into a spreadsheet and that way you can manipulate the numbers based on your market area and what volume you expect. Let me know if you need more...

old-fat-tired Added a reply to setting up a race track

4/16/2016 6:27pm
[quote="mx_ell":1rjfi8t6]hi, im looking at setting up a track somewhere in texas, i was wondering what is involved in actually legally opening a track to the public and charging them to ride. obvioulsy liability insurance or liabilty waivers are a must, but do i need any kind of permit to run the track as a business? any advice is welcome and...

old-fat-tired Added a reply to I CALLED IT!, I CALLED IT!

4/16/2016 6:20pm
[quote="Tiki":3l8jly3q]Tell me how you called something that has been discussed at length out loud in Motocross since watercooled bikes took to the track? Hey Nostradumbass chill out. Is this your first day at the races?[/quote:3l8jly3q] BIKES ARE WATERCOOLED??????????????????? No it is my second day. My first day I just watched. But now I know why when I say "I have...

old-fat-tired Added a reply to I CALLED IT!, I CALLED IT!

4/16/2016 6:20pm
[quote="Crash82":2na7pb9a][quote="old-fat-tired":2na7pb9a]DMG Quote “So our goal is to try to build this sport to a point where there are professional teams who are sponsored and who have an entity of their own, much like Richard Childress Racing is in NASCAR. And that’s not just in AMA road racing, that needs to be true across the board. If it comes down to...

old-fat-tired Added a reply to NASCAR, The AMA and the Transition

4/16/2016 6:20pm
Again, my original post (NASCAR, The AMA and the Transition) was about NASCAR teams moving in, not NASCAR in particular which didn't happen. Although having DMG led by Mr. France undoubtedly makes this look like a subsidiary of NASCAR, but thats another topic. My original point was NASCAR TEAMS ARE MOVING IN. FACTORY TEAMS ARE MOVING OUT, and the sport...

old-fat-tired Added a reply to NASCAR, The AMA and the Transition

4/16/2016 6:19pm
Don't forget we are still speculating that NASCAR is the buyer. If NASCAR is the buyer I can pretty much bet alchohol sponsors will be allowed. My numbers aren't actual but used for illustration... I probably wasn't clear enough on the sponsorship point what I was trying to say was this. If a NASCAR team already has the facilities, and...

old-fat-tired Added a reply to Just got a phone call

3/6/2008 1:16pm
It's either Tyler Sjoberg or somebody else on this list? 1st #731 BLAKE WHARTON - KTM 2nd #51 JUSTIN BARCIA - HON 3rd #134 KYLE ENGLE - HON 4th #43 ELI TOMAC - SUZ 5th #312 JASON ANDERSON - SUZ 6th #25 BRANDON MAYS - HON 7th #119 IAN TRETTEL - SUZ 8th #179 BLAKE BAGGETT - KAW 9th #176...