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mx400bee 4/20/2011 12:42pm
4/20/2011 12:42pm
Anyone remember when Kenny Roberts high dollar Factory Yamaha dirt tracker was claimed by either Gary or Hank Scott? Was that the first bike claimed after the rule came out?
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jndmx 4/20/2011 12:42pm
4/20/2011 12:42pm Edited Date/Time 4/20/2011 12:43pm
newmann wrote:
One more thing. How'd John Roeder do after claiming Tripes bike? How'd Chatfield's career take off after claiming Alessi's bike? People remember that kind of stuff.
jndmx wrote:
Are you saying that The Universe got Chatfield.......lol.
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Maybe, maybe not!:) But in the case of Roeder claiming the Factory Honda works 250, he pretty much disappeared after that. Not sure how good he...
Maybe, maybe not!Smile But in the case of Roeder claiming the Factory Honda works 250, he pretty much disappeared after that. Not sure how good he was to begin with but he absolutely shit in his lunchbox by claiming that bike.
I think you hit the nail on the head with why you don't see many cases of this happening.
Small pond to be pissing in.

Most of the folks that are at that level know each other and you would be pissing off more than just the folks that you snagged the bike from.

In the case of Chatfield it was definitely some deliberate payback for the tear down as Dave said and from the folks that I talked to that were around then nobody was too heartbroken for the Alessi's as they had made a pretty thorny bed for themselves at that point.
Most folks seemed more bummed for Mike Varner about the whole thing.
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VetTracker 4/20/2011 2:01pm
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How ironic that a few years later it was the Chatfield's that were caught massively cheating at the high-stakes "Novice" race. Karma is a bitch!
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the_wood109 4/20/2011 9:53pm
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I understand the concept of the rule, but wouldn't it be a bit better to make it 80% or so of MSRP?

The rule is designed to prevent amateurs from investing way too much in a bike, but common.

It surprises me that it doesn't happen more often with a rule like that. Technically, you could show up at the races to claim bikes and sell them. That could be a profitable business, considering the nature of some of the bikes.

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jeffro503 4/20/2011 11:47pm
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VetTracker wrote:
How ironic that a few years later it was the Chatfield's that were caught massively cheating at the high-stakes "Novice" race. Karma is a bitch!
Isn't that the race where Adam competed as a Junior rider , won the race and walked out of there with a brand new truck?

Then a bunch of guys on here at Vital said...."He aint no friggin' junior rider.....he friggin' sand bagged!"..........I think the promoters ended up tracking him down and taking the truck back.
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FastEddy 4/21/2011 12:15am
4/21/2011 12:15am Edited Date/Time 4/21/2011 12:20am
VetTracker wrote:
How ironic that a few years later it was the Chatfield's that were caught massively cheating at the high-stakes "Novice" race. Karma is a bitch!
jeffro503 wrote:
Isn't that the race where Adam competed as a Junior rider , won the race and walked out of there with a brand new truck? Then...
Isn't that the race where Adam competed as a Junior rider , won the race and walked out of there with a brand new truck?

Then a bunch of guys on here at Vital said...."He aint no friggin' junior rider.....he friggin' sand bagged!"..........I think the promoters ended up tracking him down and taking the truck back.
Yep...
I think he claimed to be a novice rider,that was back in 2004-2005-ish.
I think he signed up under a fake name also ,Alex “David” Snow. Smile
He was over here in the US at the time and went and raced that AttackMX event in Arizona and won the truck.
His parents were still over seas in England I believe and didn't really have any knowledge of it at first....so they claimed.
But from what I remember he had to give the Ford F-350 dually back and his parents chewed his ass pretty good.
There were also rumors that some promoters banned him from racing any of their series over here for a year or so.
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scooterB 4/21/2011 5:38am
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f that.

i'd take the one year suspension, race DQ and you can keep the damn trophy. seems like a rule with good intention but wasn't really thought out

aint gettin my bike!
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newmann 4/21/2011 6:16am
4/21/2011 6:16am
Wasn't Chatfield that was cheating at the Attack MX race, it was a friend of his. He got outed pretty quick!
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jndmx 4/21/2011 6:21am
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scooterB wrote:
f that. i'd take the one year suspension, race DQ and you can keep the damn trophy. seems like a rule with good intention but wasn't...
f that.

i'd take the one year suspension, race DQ and you can keep the damn trophy. seems like a rule with good intention but wasn't really thought out

aint gettin my bike!
That's easy to say but for a top amateur rider that would not be an option.

If you are getting top level support you are expected to be at all the big amateur events, missing a year would be the end of your shot at getting a good ride.
For folks that spend an average of $70,000 a year to travel and race the money for the bike would be an acceptable loss.
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motogrady 4/21/2011 7:12am
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the_wood109 wrote:
I understand the concept of the rule, but wouldn't it be a bit better to make it 80% or so of MSRP? The rule is designed...
I understand the concept of the rule, but wouldn't it be a bit better to make it 80% or so of MSRP?

The rule is designed to prevent amateurs from investing way too much in a bike, but common.

It surprises me that it doesn't happen more often with a rule like that. Technically, you could show up at the races to claim bikes and sell them. That could be a profitable business, considering the nature of some of the bikes.
You can't just show up and claim a bunch of bikes.

Far as I know, only the winning bike is up for grabs, and only by a racer that ran against it.

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