How to Ruin a Perfect Day

Niloz
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Edited Date/Time 1/26/2012 1:56pm
There has been snow on the ground for the last 4 months and I've been planning on racing the District 5 season opener this coming Sunday on my new to me 2006 YZ167 since last fall. Yes, it's a "real" YX167 built by MaxRPM. I bought it last year, planning on switching from woods races to MX in 2011. Bought it from another Vet racer who had meticulous maintenance records, all the documentation from MaxRPM etc.

So anyways, yesterday I drained and replaced coolant , did oil change, put on my new side and front number plates from Decal Works, went over every nut and bolt and just to be sure.....

Today I got home and it's 60+ degrees here in NE Ohio. Warmest day since early November. I mixed up 4 gallons of VP110 with 16 OZ. of Yamalube 2R (per MaxRpm instructions) and decided to rip up my back yard. Holy chit this bike rips. Weighs about as much as a mountain bike and feels as fast as my YZ250. This Sunday is gonna kick ass!

After 20 minutes or soI headed back to the garage, quick spray off with the pressure washer and dry with my girlfriends best bath towel. WD40 and a microfiber cloth to finish and DAMN this bike looks pretty. Ya know I think I'm just gonna change the oil again so she feels as pretty on the inside as she looks on the outside. Simple procedure, done it 274,817 times in my life right?

Drain the oil and it looks as clear as when I put it in yesterday. Re-installing drain bolt, ratchet, ratchet, ratchet, SNAP. Are you F'ing kidding me? Drain bolt snapped. Not only did it break, it broke right below the magnet. I laid the bike on it's side and looking into the drain hole I see the bottom of the magnet. This aint gonna be no simple easy out removal.

Anyone have any ideas on where I go next?

Thanks for listening and I hope your day went better than mine,
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OldTiddler
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3/17/2011 7:37pm
tap a reverse threaded screw into whats left in the case, then remove
ThePipe
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3/17/2011 7:41pm
See if you have room to weld another bolt to it, then back it out.
Once out get a drain bolt off any CR125 or CR250
Those stock Yamaha drain bolts are junk anyway.
gspointer
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3/17/2011 7:41pm
Left hand drill bit with a stop collar and an ez-out if that doesn't get it.
Niloz
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3/17/2011 7:44pm
Isn't the magnet made of steel? Will the reverse threaded screw penetrate it?

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3/17/2011 8:21pm
thread is worthless without pics
3/17/2011 9:58pm
Niloz wrote:
Isn't the magnet made of steel? Will the reverse threaded screw penetrate it?
Try it and see. I f it doesn't work your no worse off that you are now.
txmxer
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3/17/2011 10:15pm
First thing to try is to see if you can back it out. It's a long shot, but, with a magnetic retriever you might get enough grip to back it out. Something like this:





If you don't have one, should be able to find them at Northern Tool/Harbor Freight, Sears, or maybe a hardware store.

EZ outs have worked for me as well.

Good luck.
dcg141
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3/17/2011 10:21pm Edited Date/Time 3/17/2011 10:22pm
Bummer ..look before you go to crazy try to take a pick tool and get the bolt to back by just using the tool to grab whatever edge you can get and try turning the bolt.. On freshly broken bolts ..ie ones that have not broken because they are cross treaded or becuase of age they usually back out pretty easy. I have gotten bolts out just like yours with pick tools quite often. Always start with the easiest way first.
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3/17/2011 10:30pm
dcg141 wrote:
Bummer ..look before you go to crazy try to take a pick tool and get the bolt to back by just using the tool to grab...
Bummer ..look before you go to crazy try to take a pick tool and get the bolt to back by just using the tool to grab whatever edge you can get and try turning the bolt.. On freshly broken bolts ..ie ones that have not broken because they are cross treaded or becuase of age they usually back out pretty easy. I have gotten bolts out just like yours with pick tools quite often. Always start with the easiest way first.
and least destructive.
3/17/2011 10:31pm
dcg141 wrote:
Bummer ..look before you go to crazy try to take a pick tool and get the bolt to back by just using the tool to grab...
Bummer ..look before you go to crazy try to take a pick tool and get the bolt to back by just using the tool to grab whatever edge you can get and try turning the bolt.. On freshly broken bolts ..ie ones that have not broken because they are cross treaded or becuase of age they usually back out pretty easy. I have gotten bolts out just like yours with pick tools quite often. Always start with the easiest way first.
^ what he said. Start with a pick and a hammer.

If there is much of an edge outside you might try a di-grinder and make a flat cut to mimic a screw head.

If neither of those work the next step would probably have to be a left handed drill bit as mentioned above.

If all else fails get yourself a nice tap and die set and get'r done!
JB 19
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3/18/2011 5:13am
dcg141 wrote:
Bummer ..look before you go to crazy try to take a pick tool and get the bolt to back by just using the tool to grab...
Bummer ..look before you go to crazy try to take a pick tool and get the bolt to back by just using the tool to grab whatever edge you can get and try turning the bolt.. On freshly broken bolts ..ie ones that have not broken because they are cross treaded or becuase of age they usually back out pretty easy. I have gotten bolts out just like yours with pick tools quite often. Always start with the easiest way first.
+1 Definitely DO NOT run any drills or taps etc into it until you try this. This works 90% of the time. You can make your own tool from anything steel that is roughly 1/4 diameter. Sharpen the end to a point.

If you have never done this before maybe try to practice on something else that is junk so you get the hang of it.
jndmx
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3/18/2011 8:07am
I have used JB weld to attached a smaller bolt and remove one that wasn't set in really hard,
In my case it was smooth so I couldn't grab anything to turn it.

The liquid metal doesn't cause any heat so that worked for me without damaging anything.
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3/18/2011 9:19am
Do you have a dremel tool? If you do and can get at the bolt you might be able to cut it so you can use a screwdriver on it.

Sucks that it happened, but thanks for posting. Always good to get a pre-season reminder to be super careful with drain bolts.
3/18/2011 8:27pm
ThePipe wrote:
See if you have room to weld another bolt to it, then back it out. Once out get a drain bolt off any CR125 or CR250...
See if you have room to weld another bolt to it, then back it out.
Once out get a drain bolt off any CR125 or CR250
Those stock Yamaha drain bolts are junk anyway.
And always use a crush washer so this doesn't happen again.

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