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20 hours ago
MXBen711 wrote:
I am one, so I can confidently say not much hahahaI don’t want to sound like one of those blokes, but everything was better when I...

I am one, so I can confidently say not much hahaha

I don’t want to sound like one of those blokes, but everything was better when I was younger. Shops took care of local guys, brands took care of pros. No Insta, people loving riding bikes because it was fun. I wish everyone still did that, the 90’s and 00’s were so good. Track prep was optional, race prep was tightening your spokes and chain and putting a fresh filter in, race diet was a can of relentless and B&H silver. Just ride every week and had a good time doing it

You are about ready to ride vintage.

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16 hours ago Edited Date/Time 16 hours ago
MXBen711 wrote:
The whole thing has just become so complicated now. From the passion side, you want to help people. MX seems to be a sport of people...

The whole thing has just become so complicated now. From the passion side, you want to help people. MX seems to be a sport of people helping each other out and thats one of the things i love about it, but the grief and hassle from riders has caused a lot of that to diminish. Some kids you cant help, great riders but awful parents, some have talent but dont want to do it, its actually a minefield. And one thing i have learned, social media tells a story but its not always accurate.

Personally i don't look at social media when sponsoring riders, if i get an email i always respond as its important to the person on the other end to receive some confirmation that its been read, and i try to offer some advice but i split it like this. Top 10 British Champs, they're the people regular guys look up, they'll get coverage in publications and on social media will get an element of free product and in very rare cases financial support. Lower level British/Good level AMCA Champs or regional, some free some paid and then anything below that as much as i try and help the expectation vs reward ratio is so far out its impossible to manage. It starts off with gratitude, then it becomes expectation, and then it becomes entitlement and to cap it all off you'll check social media and there will a product on their bike or their backs that isn't yours because they haven't managed their time or equipment properly. Dealers should do regional, brands or Distributors do National and no brand should ever have direct contact with an end user unless that's their only route to market.

I would love to sponsor any kid that puts the effort in but the practicality is its just not possible, and experience has taught me that it wont end well either unfortunately. 

philG wrote:

Is there any mileage in local Vet riders.. asking for a friend LOL.

MXBen711 wrote:
I am one, so I can confidently say not much hahahaI don’t want to sound like one of those blokes, but everything was better when I...

I am one, so I can confidently say not much hahaha

I don’t want to sound like one of those blokes, but everything was better when I was younger. Shops took care of local guys, brands took care of pros. No Insta, people loving riding bikes because it was fun. I wish everyone still did that, the 90’s and 00’s were so good. Track prep was optional, race prep was tightening your spokes and chain and putting a fresh filter in, race diet was a can of relentless and B&H silver. Just ride every week and had a good time doing it

Yup. I can remember meetings at tracks where they reversed the track direction as it had gotten too rough going one way, and others where every lap you'd come up to some of the hills and take a breath as just getting up there took some effort. I think UK mx has a bit of a track 'over-prep' problem and honestly, the last 18 months it's made me take a step back from racing because my knees and ankles just aren't able to deal with all the slot-car stuff. The practice tracks aren't so bad, but go to a club meeting anywhere near me and it makes no difference if it's hardpack, loam or what it's all soaking wet and ripped at least a foot deep. It's just not fun to ride on, but that's all the kids have ever known, I don't think they'd have a clue how to pick an actual line if their lives depended on it...

I think it was Phil who said earlier on that Ernee was less rutted than our guys would have liked. I think that says a lot.

15 hours ago
philG wrote:

Is there any mileage in local Vet riders.. asking for a friend LOL.

MXBen711 wrote:
I am one, so I can confidently say not much hahahaI don’t want to sound like one of those blokes, but everything was better when I...

I am one, so I can confidently say not much hahaha

I don’t want to sound like one of those blokes, but everything was better when I was younger. Shops took care of local guys, brands took care of pros. No Insta, people loving riding bikes because it was fun. I wish everyone still did that, the 90’s and 00’s were so good. Track prep was optional, race prep was tightening your spokes and chain and putting a fresh filter in, race diet was a can of relentless and B&H silver. Just ride every week and had a good time doing it

Twigster wrote:
Yup. I can remember meetings at tracks where they reversed the track direction as it had gotten too rough going one way, and others where every...

Yup. I can remember meetings at tracks where they reversed the track direction as it had gotten too rough going one way, and others where every lap you'd come up to some of the hills and take a breath as just getting up there took some effort. I think UK mx has a bit of a track 'over-prep' problem and honestly, the last 18 months it's made me take a step back from racing because my knees and ankles just aren't able to deal with all the slot-car stuff. The practice tracks aren't so bad, but go to a club meeting anywhere near me and it makes no difference if it's hardpack, loam or what it's all soaking wet and ripped at least a foot deep. It's just not fun to ride on, but that's all the kids have ever known, I don't think they'd have a clue how to pick an actual line if their lives depended on it...

I think it was Phil who said earlier on that Ernee was less rutted than our guys would have liked. I think that says a lot.

Now there’s a whole other subject that needs its own discussion. 

Yep, I agree , down in this south-east corner we mostly have clay. 
You can’t till clay deep and flood it with water on race weekend and expect it to be good. 
But these egos driving the tractors won’t listen. 

Deep, straight sided tram tracks are dangerous especially as the day dries out. 

Till it. Flood it with water the day before, then roll it back flat on race day would be the best way to prep clay. 

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