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I will be there, but I won't be racing. I did make up my mind. Roczen crashed, fact. He has not won a SX, best finish...
I will be there, but I won't be racing. I did make up my mind. Roczen crashed, fact. He has not won a SX, best finish last race. People on this board said he would dominate in previous posts and other posters noted it.

It seem the Euros are getting upset because none of their guys can ride SX very well and they are not able to win a MXON. That is because America dominates in the sport. Sorry, that is just the way it. America does not dominate in soccer or motoGP, as an American I can accept that but the Euros still think they have competitive riders, and we haven't seen to many race over here. Embrace it, American motocross and supercross is the standard and the "world championship" working for FIM means very little. Caroli may be a world champ in FIM but he is 4rd or 5 place rider over here. Tongue
Why should he be a 4rd or 5 place rider over there?
Clement Desalle competed in 1 national this year (Unadilla I think) and finished second overall. And Cairoli proved to be the better of Desalle last year so what are you talking about there aren't competitiving riders?

And we are not upset about sx, it is because there are not big sx championships in Europe just as you have NFL and Nascar. We can't compete in that either because it is not here, thats why Roczen comes to the US. And he's doing more than fine over there, think he's getting better every week.
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2/4/2011 2:51pm
Roczen is the most exciting rider I've seen in a while. Complete aggression. Hard to keep it on two riding like that, but it's fun to watch.
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2/4/2011 3:31pm
jemcee wrote:
and while doing that I bet his eyes are half closed like "for sure throw a whip to keep low you know?" like this [img]https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4146/5409713902_c0896a0ebc_b.jpg[/img] or...
and while doing that I bet his eyes are half closed like "for sure throw a whip to keep low you know?"

like this



or this



love that guy... oh and thanks for the wallpaper

Roczen's a cool kid and fun as hell to watch ride. No doubt he'll be on the box before the seasons over with
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2/4/2011 9:06pm Edited Date/Time 2/4/2011 9:15pm
sandman_11 wrote:
Why should he be a 4rd or 5 place rider over there? Clement Desalle competed in 1 national this year (Unadilla I think) and finished second...
Why should he be a 4rd or 5 place rider over there?
Clement Desalle competed in 1 national this year (Unadilla I think) and finished second overall. And Cairoli proved to be the better of Desalle last year so what are you talking about there aren't competitiving riders?

And we are not upset about sx, it is because there are not big sx championships in Europe just as you have NFL and Nascar. We can't compete in that either because it is not here, thats why Roczen comes to the US. And he's doing more than fine over there, think he's getting better every week.
lets try that again.

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2/4/2011 9:18pm
sandman_11 wrote:
Why should he be a 4rd or 5 place rider over there? Clement Desalle competed in 1 national this year (Unadilla I think) and finished second...
Why should he be a 4rd or 5 place rider over there?
Clement Desalle competed in 1 national this year (Unadilla I think) and finished second overall. And Cairoli proved to be the better of Desalle last year so what are you talking about there aren't competitiving riders?

And we are not upset about sx, it is because there are not big sx championships in Europe just as you have NFL and Nascar. We can't compete in that either because it is not here, thats why Roczen comes to the US. And he's doing more than fine over there, think he's getting better every week.
"so what are you talking about there aren't competitiving riders"

I did not say any of the Euros were not competitive. I said Cairoli did not live up to the expectations. He did not win the MXON against RV, or Dungee, or Dungee again, and in the latest SX races Dungee is having a hard time getting on the podium.

"We can't compete in that either because it is not here, thats why Roczen comes to the US"

But that is a reasonalbe assesment.

"think he's getting better every week"

I agree, it should make for great racing in the lites class. The 450 class too. Can't wait for tomorrow.
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Cluelessmucho,you have to take the prize for the STFU stupid prize of the year so far.

AC did fine,he beat Dungey at the 2009 MXoN in 1 race but got taken out at the start of the next and last year in the qualifying race at the MXoN and even after a crap start he ran him down to challenge him the next day (until he nailed that triple too many times) I was at the USGP in one of the hospitality tents and everyone around me,many in the industry, were very impressed with him,(especially without a gearlever!)Desalle,Nagl,Musquin etc,sadly Roczen had a nitemare of a day and didn't shine like usual,and only realised his speed that we'd been talking about on here when he ran riot at the MXoN.Face it,there are some very fast Euros,please don't hate on them when you see very little of them,of the odd 1 or 2 that come over,they do pretty well,but you obviously seem to see it different to most

So to say AC didn't do well when they met and Dungey is having a hard time getting on the podium isn't really that accurate,but you're so dumb you're comparing outdoor to SXBlink

Oh and its Dungey not Dungee dumbass

I almost think no one is as Clueless as you are and maybe a wind up actually Laughing
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2/5/2011 7:28am Edited Date/Time 2/5/2011 7:28am
Ken Roczen's style is ridiculous! I knew coming into Oakland SX that I wanted to get a photo of Roczen whipping, scrubbing, etc. I could care...
Ken Roczen's style is ridiculous! I knew coming into Oakland SX that I wanted to get a photo of Roczen whipping, scrubbing, etc. I could care less if I took any other photos of anyone else, as long I took a photo of Roczen throwing down. Here he is in the first un-timed practice over the triple after the sand turn...



I've made a few wallpaper sizes of this photo. Check it out HERE. Thanks!


kongols wrote:
You do understand that Roczen been riding supercross only for 2 month? On the other hand- NFM!
Eli had to wait until 18 to join the AMA, he is still a rookie to SX. Are you saying he has not been practicing for...
Eli had to wait until 18 to join the AMA, he is still a rookie to SX.

Are you saying he has not been practicing for supercross or that they have no supercross style tracks in europe?
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgmsgx_ken-roczen-readies-for-american…

Did Eli race AMA supercross?
"Recent highlights: Has never raced a supercross, but prior to Hangtown in 2010, he had never raced an AMA National, either. And he won Hangtown"

No so he is a rookie too. Now if Eli started racing SX at 16, then I would not have said anything, but he has not raced AMA pro SX, no, he is a rookie and he is not only looking good but has passed Roczen, We have a lot a fast rookies which will make for some great racing. We also have a lot of fast veterens (well most of the fast guys moved to 450s). Should be a good year of racing.

Roczen said in his interview he was hoping to get a top 5 finish and he has done that but everyone on this board thinks he could dominate the top AMA lites riders. I don't think so, he is not able to dominate our rookies at this point. Maybe later in the season we will see what everyone has been raving about.
Looks like Eli has been racing SX at least back to 08, and I bet he has had a lot more coaching training from the honda team....

personally al the kids are pretty darn good....

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Cluelessmucho,you have to take the prize for the STFU stupid prize of the year so far. AC did fine,he beat Dungey at the 2009 MXoN in...
Cluelessmucho,you have to take the prize for the STFU stupid prize of the year so far.

AC did fine,he beat Dungey at the 2009 MXoN in 1 race but got taken out at the start of the next and last year in the qualifying race at the MXoN and even after a crap start he ran him down to challenge him the next day (until he nailed that triple too many times) I was at the USGP in one of the hospitality tents and everyone around me,many in the industry, were very impressed with him,(especially without a gearlever!)Desalle,Nagl,Musquin etc,sadly Roczen had a nitemare of a day and didn't shine like usual,and only realised his speed that we'd been talking about on here when he ran riot at the MXoN.Face it,there are some very fast Euros,please don't hate on them when you see very little of them,of the odd 1 or 2 that come over,they do pretty well,but you obviously seem to see it different to most

So to say AC didn't do well when they met and Dungey is having a hard time getting on the podium isn't really that accurate,but you're so dumb you're comparing outdoor to SXBlink

Oh and its Dungey not Dungee dumbass

I almost think no one is as Clueless as you are and maybe a wind up actually Laughing
Another Euro spouting personal attacks, another Euro I won't be communicating with in the future. I wasn't talking one moto wins. Did any Euro team beat America for MXoN in the last few years? No. Did Caroli beat Dungey overall in any MXoN so far, no, doesn't matter if he crashed or not. AC did not beat RV either.

There are some fast Euros and I don't deny that, and I don't hate them. They are just not as fast as the Americans. Most Americans don't talk about going over to Europe to beat them on their board, because they already know they can. Most Americans don't go onto the Euro mx/sx boards saying how the Americans will dominate. It is you Euros that come to the American board, spout your hate and tell us how your boys are gonna beat us in MXon SX or MX, and it doesn't happen. It is you who is spewing hate with personal attacks an name calling. Do you see me calling you names? Nope, do you see me saying your dumb even though you cannot hold an adult conversation without name calling, Nope. Have a nice day.
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kijen wrote:
Looks like Eli has been racing SX at least back to 08, and I bet he has had a lot more coaching training from the honda...
Looks like Eli has been racing SX at least back to 08, and I bet he has had a lot more coaching training from the honda team....

personally al the kids are pretty darn good....

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I was specific. AMA Supercross. Most local "supercross" tracks are not to the level of an AMA SX, many are just motocross tracks with big jumps, so regardles of what you are saying, he is still a rooked. Question, why do they call the new guys to AMA motocross rookies their first year when all of them have been racing motocross on local MX tracks most of their lives? For the same reason they call them rookies when they race their first year of AMA SX.
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2/6/2011 3:44am Edited Date/Time 2/6/2011 4:09am
PressPassP wrote:
Cluelessmucho,you have to take the prize for the STFU stupid prize of the year so far. AC did fine,he beat Dungey at the 2009 MXoN in...
Cluelessmucho,you have to take the prize for the STFU stupid prize of the year so far.

AC did fine,he beat Dungey at the 2009 MXoN in 1 race but got taken out at the start of the next and last year in the qualifying race at the MXoN and even after a crap start he ran him down to challenge him the next day (until he nailed that triple too many times) I was at the USGP in one of the hospitality tents and everyone around me,many in the industry, were very impressed with him,(especially without a gearlever!)Desalle,Nagl,Musquin etc,sadly Roczen had a nitemare of a day and didn't shine like usual,and only realised his speed that we'd been talking about on here when he ran riot at the MXoN.Face it,there are some very fast Euros,please don't hate on them when you see very little of them,of the odd 1 or 2 that come over,they do pretty well,but you obviously seem to see it different to most

So to say AC didn't do well when they met and Dungey is having a hard time getting on the podium isn't really that accurate,but you're so dumb you're comparing outdoor to SXBlink

Oh and its Dungey not Dungee dumbass

I almost think no one is as Clueless as you are and maybe a wind up actually Laughing
Another Euro spouting personal attacks, another Euro I won't be communicating with in the future. I wasn't talking one moto wins. Did any Euro team beat...
Another Euro spouting personal attacks, another Euro I won't be communicating with in the future. I wasn't talking one moto wins. Did any Euro team beat America for MXoN in the last few years? No. Did Caroli beat Dungey overall in any MXoN so far, no, doesn't matter if he crashed or not. AC did not beat RV either.

There are some fast Euros and I don't deny that, and I don't hate them. They are just not as fast as the Americans. Most Americans don't talk about going over to Europe to beat them on their board, because they already know they can. Most Americans don't go onto the Euro mx/sx boards saying how the Americans will dominate. It is you Euros that come to the American board, spout your hate and tell us how your boys are gonna beat us in MXon SX or MX, and it doesn't happen. It is you who is spewing hate with personal attacks an name calling. Do you see me calling you names? Nope, do you see me saying your dumb even though you cannot hold an adult conversation without name calling, Nope. Have a nice day.
Like many others, you seem to have an incredibly hard time distinguishing between people making perfectly legitimate suggestions and... 'spouting hate'!? If we say - often listing evidence - that some of our top riders are capable of running near the front in America we're 'hating', yet you are perfectly allowed to categorically state that your riders would clean up in Europe and that is ok right?

Once in a while a 'Euro' with a very low post count might come on here and say something ridiculous that you might find insulting. But for every Euro that does that there are always three Americans that throw out something even more out of line and insulting towards us. And just for the record, when these type of 'us vs them' arguments flair up it usually starts with stupid derogatory remarks aimed towards the GP's or GP riders and a 'Euro' firing back - very rarely is it the other way around!

There are a core of non Americans that post on this forum and none of them 'spout hate'. Most of us are big fans of American racing and American riders - none of us would be here otherwise. Being that the GPs involve riders and countries from all around the World we also tend to have very impartial views on the sport as a whole. If we spouted hate don't you think we would have been clicked ages ago? Most try and give a balanced argument and we're lucky in being able to view and comment on the sport globally based on what we've seen, rather than just what happens in American.

I may have been out of line in what I said to you, but you were throwing out some pretty inaccurate claims - which even your fellow americans were disagreeing with you about.

I would suggest you look at my very first post in this thread... and then look at you're first two posts, and decide who is the hater!?
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2/6/2011 5:29am Edited Date/Time 2/6/2011 5:30am
JTclan wrote:
damn! if only he could go 15 laps without crashing
I believe you just got your wish this evening, on the box........
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kid is havin fun!
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2/6/2011 9:07am
JTclan wrote:
damn! if only he could go 15 laps without crashing
I believe you just got your wish this evening, on the box........
He did great, he got a holeshot, did not crash and got a podium. Good job, he is now starting to shine. Now if he can only beat the Eli, Smile

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Man, never thought i'd say this..........Roczens bike looked terrible through the whoops compared to the geico and pc bikes...

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