Pw 50 races/bearings

Picked up a used 17 pw for my boy, didn’t realize the steering stem races cracking and wollowing out the bottom of the steering neck was so common. Ordered a set of oem bearings before realizing that they probably won’t work. Other than the weld in races do I have any other options to fix this? At least buy some time while he learns and wheels on the ground

Teased a 4 year old with a pw he doesn’t understand why he can’t ride 🫠

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5/11/2026 2:16pm

How bad is it? Could you post a pocture?

I can when I get it apart later, the front has a lot of play though I’m just assuming it’s egged out 

5/11/2026 2:50pm

How bad is it? Could you post a pocture?

I can when I get it apart later, the front has a lot of play though I’m just assuming it’s egged out 

Fingers crossed for you, hopefully just bearings & race👌

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5/11/2026 4:47pm

Got it apart, the top nut, the 46mm wasn’t even hand tight, when I did tighten it the slop went away, the bottom race has a tiny bit of play, I put the top race in the bottom just to see how egged out the frame is, and there was hardly any, wouldn’t need tapped in but not as sloppy as I was expecting

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5/13/2026 5:55am
Got it apart, the top nut, the 46mm wasn’t even hand tight, when I did tighten it the slop went away, the bottom race has a...

Got it apart, the top nut, the 46mm wasn’t even hand tight, when I did tighten it the slop went away, the bottom race has a tiny bit of play, I put the top race in the bottom just to see how egged out the frame is, and there was hardly any, wouldn’t need tapped in but not as sloppy as I was expecting

If the lower race can be pushed into the frame by hand and doesn't fall out, it sounds like you might be able to get away with using a retaining compound like loctite 660 or JB weld.

If the gap between race and frame is worse than that, you could use an aluminum can to fabricate a shim. 

Easy fixes either way and will get your little guy out and ripping!

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5/13/2026 10:17am
Got it apart, the top nut, the 46mm wasn’t even hand tight, when I did tighten it the slop went away, the bottom race has a...

Got it apart, the top nut, the 46mm wasn’t even hand tight, when I did tighten it the slop went away, the bottom race has a tiny bit of play, I put the top race in the bottom just to see how egged out the frame is, and there was hardly any, wouldn’t need tapped in but not as sloppy as I was expecting

profmur wrote:
If the lower race can be pushed into the frame by hand and doesn't fall out, it sounds like you might be able to get away...

If the lower race can be pushed into the frame by hand and doesn't fall out, it sounds like you might be able to get away with using a retaining compound like loctite 660 or JB weld.

If the gap between race and frame is worse than that, you could use an aluminum can to fabricate a shim. 

Easy fixes either way and will get your little guy out and ripping!

So around the neck of the race that goes into the frame I would wrap with aluminum or the jb/loctite method? Will the jb or loctite be a pain to remove once I do upgrade the races? I just need something to get me a couple months so this boy can ride 

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5/13/2026 11:21am
Got it apart, the top nut, the 46mm wasn’t even hand tight, when I did tighten it the slop went away, the bottom race has a...

Got it apart, the top nut, the 46mm wasn’t even hand tight, when I did tighten it the slop went away, the bottom race has a tiny bit of play, I put the top race in the bottom just to see how egged out the frame is, and there was hardly any, wouldn’t need tapped in but not as sloppy as I was expecting

profmur wrote:
If the lower race can be pushed into the frame by hand and doesn't fall out, it sounds like you might be able to get away...

If the lower race can be pushed into the frame by hand and doesn't fall out, it sounds like you might be able to get away with using a retaining compound like loctite 660 or JB weld.

If the gap between race and frame is worse than that, you could use an aluminum can to fabricate a shim. 

Easy fixes either way and will get your little guy out and ripping!

So around the neck of the race that goes into the frame I would wrap with aluminum or the jb/loctite method? Will the jb or loctite...

So around the neck of the race that goes into the frame I would wrap with aluminum or the jb/loctite method? Will the jb or loctite be a pain to remove once I do upgrade the races? I just need something to get me a couple months so this boy can ride 

Exactly. 

Hopefully it goes without saying but start with a new race. Loctite bearing retaining compounds generally have a gap fill of 0.1 mm to 0.5 mm.

If the gap is larger, use the shim method.  

Bearing retainer compound and JB weld are epoxys, can be removed mechanically with effort if needed.

 

5/13/2026 1:47pm
profmur wrote:
If the lower race can be pushed into the frame by hand and doesn't fall out, it sounds like you might be able to get away...

If the lower race can be pushed into the frame by hand and doesn't fall out, it sounds like you might be able to get away with using a retaining compound like loctite 660 or JB weld.

If the gap between race and frame is worse than that, you could use an aluminum can to fabricate a shim. 

Easy fixes either way and will get your little guy out and ripping!

So around the neck of the race that goes into the frame I would wrap with aluminum or the jb/loctite method? Will the jb or loctite...

So around the neck of the race that goes into the frame I would wrap with aluminum or the jb/loctite method? Will the jb or loctite be a pain to remove once I do upgrade the races? I just need something to get me a couple months so this boy can ride 

profmur wrote:
Exactly. Hopefully it goes without saying but start with a new race. Loctite bearing retaining compounds generally have a gap fill of 0.1 mm to 0.5 mm.If...

Exactly. 

Hopefully it goes without saying but start with a new race. Loctite bearing retaining compounds generally have a gap fill of 0.1 mm to 0.5 mm.

If the gap is larger, use the shim method.  

Bearing retainer compound and JB weld are epoxys, can be removed mechanically with effort if needed.

 

Thank you, so I can come back to this post if need be what would be the method to remove the epoxy? 
Set the end of the frame in acetone? 😅

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5/13/2026 2:19pm
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Also what the hell holds the bearings in 
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5/13/2026 2:34pm
So around the neck of the race that goes into the frame I would wrap with aluminum or the jb/loctite method? Will the jb or loctite...

So around the neck of the race that goes into the frame I would wrap with aluminum or the jb/loctite method? Will the jb or loctite be a pain to remove once I do upgrade the races? I just need something to get me a couple months so this boy can ride 

profmur wrote:
Exactly. Hopefully it goes without saying but start with a new race. Loctite bearing retaining compounds generally have a gap fill of 0.1 mm to 0.5 mm.If...

Exactly. 

Hopefully it goes without saying but start with a new race. Loctite bearing retaining compounds generally have a gap fill of 0.1 mm to 0.5 mm.

If the gap is larger, use the shim method.  

Bearing retainer compound and JB weld are epoxys, can be removed mechanically with effort if needed.

 

Thank you, so I can come back to this post if need be what would be the method to remove the epoxy? Set the end of the...

Thank you, so I can come back to this post if need be what would be the method to remove the epoxy? 
Set the end of the frame in acetone? 😅

Or a blow torch lol

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Also what the hell holds the bearings in 

Grease. Lots of it. Be careful not to bang any bearings out of the race when you install the lower clamp and steering stem up from the bottom. 

 

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