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mxr300ex 1/23/2011 1:51pm
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Racer92 wrote:
,,, moniker has officially changed. Seems I remember the last time a short red-headed guy came back one year after getting serious about training, dropping 20+...
,,, moniker has officially changed.

Seems I remember the last time a short red-headed guy came back one year after getting serious about training, dropping 20+ lbs and dethroned the favorite.
My bad I looked at you post wrong.
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silvershoes wrote:
What is comical is how many conclusions are drawn from three races. Once again, I have to say the majority of the shit talk is coming...
What is comical is how many conclusions are drawn from three races. Once again, I have to say the majority of the shit talk is coming from the so-called Villopoto fans. So called because they aren't really that good of fans if they have to take shots at other riders like Stewart and Dungey.
mxr300ex wrote:
Your wrong dude look at the lap times from the race this week and last and RV had the fastest lap in both races.
http://results.amasupercross.com/data/2011/02/sxm1ind.pdf
http://results.amasupercross.com/data/2011/03/sxm1ind.pdf
Thank you! I was going to post this as well... facts are hard for some people to deal with.
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`ol Ger 1/23/2011 1:58pm
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Silvershoes is incorrect.

Villopoto set the fastest lap at Phoenix and at Dodger Stadium.


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iamdustin wrote:
James Stewart will be the 2011 champ, enough said.
You may be right ! Im not discounting James one bit - he is riding cool & smart and Im glad he is in the mix.

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Racer92 wrote:
,,, moniker has officially changed. Seems I remember the last time a short red-headed guy came back one year after getting serious about training, dropping 20+...
,,, moniker has officially changed.

Seems I remember the last time a short red-headed guy came back one year after getting serious about training, dropping 20+ lbs and dethroned the favorite.
mxr300ex wrote:
My bad I looked at you post wrong.
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RV is learning what RC and CR have learned over the years and that is if you can latch on to James and run his pace he will crack. He does it time and time again when someone is able to put pressure on him. RV was faster (fastest lap time) and he came from behind to catch James and force him in to a mistake. I think we could see a lot of mistakes from James this year with the speed both RV and TC are showing early on. What ever happens we're going to see speed taken to a whole new level the way these guys are going to push each other this year.
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silvershoes 1/23/2011 2:24pm
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silvershoes wrote:
What is comical is how many conclusions are drawn from three races. Once again, I have to say the majority of the shit talk is coming...
What is comical is how many conclusions are drawn from three races. Once again, I have to say the majority of the shit talk is coming from the so-called Villopoto fans. So called because they aren't really that good of fans if they have to take shots at other riders like Stewart and Dungey.
mxr300ex wrote:
Your wrong dude look at the lap times from the race this week and last and RV had the fastest lap in both races.
http://results.amasupercross.com/data/2011/02/sxm1ind.pdf
http://results.amasupercross.com/data/2011/03/sxm1ind.pdf
Outsider wrote:
Thank you! I was going to post this as well... facts are hard for some people to deal with.
No they're not, look again at the "facts" In two out of three races, James Stewart was faster than Ryan Villopoto. There are 20 laps, not one lap. Look at the laptime average for 20 laps and you will see that James Stewart was faster.
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James may be the fastest man, but he defenitly isnt the most consistent man
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mxr300ex 1/23/2011 2:34pm
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mxr300ex wrote:
Your wrong dude look at the lap times from the race this week and last and RV had the fastest lap in both races.
http://results.amasupercross.com/data/2011/02/sxm1ind.pdf
http://results.amasupercross.com/data/2011/03/sxm1ind.pdf
Outsider wrote:
Thank you! I was going to post this as well... facts are hard for some people to deal with.
silvershoes wrote:
No they're not, look again at the "facts" In two out of three races, James Stewart was faster than Ryan Villopoto. There are 20 laps, not...
No they're not, look again at the "facts" In two out of three races, James Stewart was faster than Ryan Villopoto. There are 20 laps, not one lap. Look at the laptime average for 20 laps and you will see that James Stewart was faster.
If you want to look at all 20 laps of all 3 races then RV was clearly faster at A1 and LA because he won both and they started at the same time so his average for both races had to have been faster. Look at the links. http://results.amasupercross.com/data/2011/03/sxm1ovr.pdf and http://results.amasupercross.com/data/2011/01/sxm1ovr.pdf
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Outsider 1/23/2011 2:36pm
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silvershoes wrote:
No they're not, look again at the "facts" In two out of three races, James Stewart was faster than Ryan Villopoto. There are 20 laps, not...
No they're not, look again at the "facts" In two out of three races, James Stewart was faster than Ryan Villopoto. There are 20 laps, not one lap. Look at the laptime average for 20 laps and you will see that James Stewart was faster.
I'll take your word for it on that.

If you look at the race results, you'd swear RV was faster with 2 out of 3 wins, but, then I keep forgetting that doesn't count for anything here.
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silvershoes 1/23/2011 2:44pm
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Outsider wrote:
Thank you! I was going to post this as well... facts are hard for some people to deal with.
silvershoes wrote:
No they're not, look again at the "facts" In two out of three races, James Stewart was faster than Ryan Villopoto. There are 20 laps, not...
No they're not, look again at the "facts" In two out of three races, James Stewart was faster than Ryan Villopoto. There are 20 laps, not one lap. Look at the laptime average for 20 laps and you will see that James Stewart was faster.
mxr300ex wrote:
If you want to look at all 20 laps of all 3 races then RV was clearly faster at A1 and LA because he won both...
If you want to look at all 20 laps of all 3 races then RV was clearly faster at A1 and LA because he won both and they started at the same time so his average for both races had to have been faster. Look at the links. http://results.amasupercross.com/data/2011/03/sxm1ovr.pdf and http://results.amasupercross.com/data/2011/01/sxm1ovr.pdf
RV was not faster. RV won, which as I mentioned, is better than having faster laps. But RV was not faster over 20 laps:



Anaheim I:



J. Stewart: 59.881



R. Villopoto: 59.894



Phoenix:



J. Stewart: 50.156



R. Villopoto: 50.302



I'm not splitting hairs here. Ryan won two out of three and they don't award points for being faster. But I am disputing all the nonsense about Ryan being faster when he isn't. I swear you Villopoto fans are the worse...it's embarrassing.
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silvershoes 1/23/2011 2:48pm
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silvershoes wrote:
No they're not, look again at the "facts" In two out of three races, James Stewart was faster than Ryan Villopoto. There are 20 laps, not...
No they're not, look again at the "facts" In two out of three races, James Stewart was faster than Ryan Villopoto. There are 20 laps, not one lap. Look at the laptime average for 20 laps and you will see that James Stewart was faster.
Outsider wrote:
I'll take your word for it on that. If you look at the race results, you'd swear RV was faster with 2 out of 3 wins...
I'll take your word for it on that.

If you look at the race results, you'd swear RV was faster with 2 out of 3 wins, but, then I keep forgetting that doesn't count for anything here.
A few posts above you were talking about people ignoring "facts", with "facts" being laptimes, and when the "facts" were shown to you, you are now not so much concerned with "facts" but with overall results of a race. That's interesting.
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mxr300ex 1/23/2011 2:50pm
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silvershoes wrote:
No they're not, look again at the "facts" In two out of three races, James Stewart was faster than Ryan Villopoto. There are 20 laps, not...
No they're not, look again at the "facts" In two out of three races, James Stewart was faster than Ryan Villopoto. There are 20 laps, not one lap. Look at the laptime average for 20 laps and you will see that James Stewart was faster.
mxr300ex wrote:
If you want to look at all 20 laps of all 3 races then RV was clearly faster at A1 and LA because he won both...
If you want to look at all 20 laps of all 3 races then RV was clearly faster at A1 and LA because he won both and they started at the same time so his average for both races had to have been faster. Look at the links. http://results.amasupercross.com/data/2011/03/sxm1ovr.pdf and http://results.amasupercross.com/data/2011/01/sxm1ovr.pdf
silvershoes wrote:
RV was not faster. RV won, which as I mentioned, is better than having faster laps. But RV was not faster over 20 laps: Anaheim I:...
RV was not faster. RV won, which as I mentioned, is better than having faster laps. But RV was not faster over 20 laps:



Anaheim I:



J. Stewart: 59.881



R. Villopoto: 59.894



Phoenix:



J. Stewart: 50.156



R. Villopoto: 50.302



I'm not splitting hairs here. Ryan won two out of three and they don't award points for being faster. But I am disputing all the nonsense about Ryan being faster when he isn't. I swear you Villopoto fans are the worse...it's embarrassing.
Your only taking laps 2-20 in to account, they ran 20 laps so it would be impossible for Stewart to have a faster average from start to finish. If you look at the the overall from A1 you will see Stewart finished 9.371 seconds behind Villopoto, over 20 laps thats .46855 seconds a lap slower then Villopoto.
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Outsider 1/23/2011 2:58pm
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silvershoes wrote:
A few posts above you were talking about people ignoring "facts", with "facts" being laptimes, and when the "facts" were shown to you, you are now...
A few posts above you were talking about people ignoring "facts", with "facts" being laptimes, and when the "facts" were shown to you, you are now not so much concerned with "facts" but with overall results of a race. That's interesting.
This argument is ridiculous, however, the fact is the fastest time in 2 out of 3 races was set by RV.

The other "fact", is that James was given that stupid moniker, while often losing championships. Which, is "embarrassing".

And it's "worst", not "worse".

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silvershoes 1/23/2011 3:16pm
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mxr300ex wrote:
If you want to look at all 20 laps of all 3 races then RV was clearly faster at A1 and LA because he won both...
If you want to look at all 20 laps of all 3 races then RV was clearly faster at A1 and LA because he won both and they started at the same time so his average for both races had to have been faster. Look at the links. http://results.amasupercross.com/data/2011/03/sxm1ovr.pdf and http://results.amasupercross.com/data/2011/01/sxm1ovr.pdf
silvershoes wrote:
RV was not faster. RV won, which as I mentioned, is better than having faster laps. But RV was not faster over 20 laps: Anaheim I:...
RV was not faster. RV won, which as I mentioned, is better than having faster laps. But RV was not faster over 20 laps:



Anaheim I:



J. Stewart: 59.881



R. Villopoto: 59.894



Phoenix:



J. Stewart: 50.156



R. Villopoto: 50.302



I'm not splitting hairs here. Ryan won two out of three and they don't award points for being faster. But I am disputing all the nonsense about Ryan being faster when he isn't. I swear you Villopoto fans are the worse...it's embarrassing.
mxr300ex wrote:
Your only taking laps 2-20 in to account, they ran 20 laps so it would be impossible for Stewart to have a faster average from start...
Your only taking laps 2-20 in to account, they ran 20 laps so it would be impossible for Stewart to have a faster average from start to finish. If you look at the the overall from A1 you will see Stewart finished 9.371 seconds behind Villopoto, over 20 laps thats .46855 seconds a lap slower then Villopoto.
Do the math; Stewart has an overall faster average over 20 Laps at Anaheim 1 and Phoenix. I must be going insane.
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mxr300ex 1/23/2011 3:23pm
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silvershoes wrote:
RV was not faster. RV won, which as I mentioned, is better than having faster laps. But RV was not faster over 20 laps: Anaheim I:...
RV was not faster. RV won, which as I mentioned, is better than having faster laps. But RV was not faster over 20 laps:



Anaheim I:



J. Stewart: 59.881



R. Villopoto: 59.894



Phoenix:



J. Stewart: 50.156



R. Villopoto: 50.302



I'm not splitting hairs here. Ryan won two out of three and they don't award points for being faster. But I am disputing all the nonsense about Ryan being faster when he isn't. I swear you Villopoto fans are the worse...it's embarrassing.
mxr300ex wrote:
Your only taking laps 2-20 in to account, they ran 20 laps so it would be impossible for Stewart to have a faster average from start...
Your only taking laps 2-20 in to account, they ran 20 laps so it would be impossible for Stewart to have a faster average from start to finish. If you look at the the overall from A1 you will see Stewart finished 9.371 seconds behind Villopoto, over 20 laps thats .46855 seconds a lap slower then Villopoto.
silvershoes wrote:
Do the math; Stewart has an overall faster average over 20 Laps at Anaheim 1 and Phoenix. I must be going insane.
Dude how is that even possible? They started at the same time and RV finished over 9 seconds before Stewart. You do the math.
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silvershoes wrote:
RV was not faster. RV won, which as I mentioned, is better than having faster laps. But RV was not faster over 20 laps: Anaheim I:...
RV was not faster. RV won, which as I mentioned, is better than having faster laps. But RV was not faster over 20 laps:



Anaheim I:



J. Stewart: 59.881



R. Villopoto: 59.894



Phoenix:



J. Stewart: 50.156



R. Villopoto: 50.302



I'm not splitting hairs here. Ryan won two out of three and they don't award points for being faster. But I am disputing all the nonsense about Ryan being faster when he isn't. I swear you Villopoto fans are the worse...it's embarrassing.
mxr300ex wrote:
Your only taking laps 2-20 in to account, they ran 20 laps so it would be impossible for Stewart to have a faster average from start...
Your only taking laps 2-20 in to account, they ran 20 laps so it would be impossible for Stewart to have a faster average from start to finish. If you look at the the overall from A1 you will see Stewart finished 9.371 seconds behind Villopoto, over 20 laps thats .46855 seconds a lap slower then Villopoto.
silvershoes wrote:
Do the math; Stewart has an overall faster average over 20 Laps at Anaheim 1 and Phoenix. I must be going insane.
You gotta take a god damn county college math lesson.....that's what you gotta do.......a higher average lap time over 20 laps can not possibly win as the overall time would be longer.....fool....
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mxr300ex 1/23/2011 3:30pm
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mxr300ex wrote:
Your only taking laps 2-20 in to account, they ran 20 laps so it would be impossible for Stewart to have a faster average from start...
Your only taking laps 2-20 in to account, they ran 20 laps so it would be impossible for Stewart to have a faster average from start to finish. If you look at the the overall from A1 you will see Stewart finished 9.371 seconds behind Villopoto, over 20 laps thats .46855 seconds a lap slower then Villopoto.
silvershoes wrote:
Do the math; Stewart has an overall faster average over 20 Laps at Anaheim 1 and Phoenix. I must be going insane.
TeamPropainTurbo38t wrote:
You gotta take a god damn county college math lesson.....that's what you gotta do.......a higher average lap time over 20 laps can not possibly win as...
You gotta take a god damn county college math lesson.....that's what you gotta do.......a higher average lap time over 20 laps can not possibly win as the overall time would be longer.....fool....
I know right. I feel like im talking to a 4 year old. This guy has no math understanding what so ever!

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mxr300ex wrote:
Your only taking laps 2-20 in to account, they ran 20 laps so it would be impossible for Stewart to have a faster average from start...
Your only taking laps 2-20 in to account, they ran 20 laps so it would be impossible for Stewart to have a faster average from start to finish. If you look at the the overall from A1 you will see Stewart finished 9.371 seconds behind Villopoto, over 20 laps thats .46855 seconds a lap slower then Villopoto.
silvershoes wrote:
Do the math; Stewart has an overall faster average over 20 Laps at Anaheim 1 and Phoenix. I must be going insane.
TeamPropainTurbo38t wrote:
You gotta take a god damn county college math lesson.....that's what you gotta do.......a higher average lap time over 20 laps can not possibly win as...
You gotta take a god damn county college math lesson.....that's what you gotta do.......a higher average lap time over 20 laps can not possibly win as the overall time would be longer.....fool....
actually, that's 3rd grade math.

As was pointed out above, for whatever reason, the lap chart doesn't provide a time for when they complete the first lap, so it APPEARS that James had a faster average time for A1...however, as noted, that is impossible because he did not win the race.

TeamPropainTurbo38t 1/23/2011 3:31pm
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silvershoes wrote:
Do the math; Stewart has an overall faster average over 20 Laps at Anaheim 1 and Phoenix. I must be going insane.
TeamPropainTurbo38t wrote:
You gotta take a god damn county college math lesson.....that's what you gotta do.......a higher average lap time over 20 laps can not possibly win as...
You gotta take a god damn county college math lesson.....that's what you gotta do.......a higher average lap time over 20 laps can not possibly win as the overall time would be longer.....fool....
mxr300ex wrote:
I know right. I feel like im talking to a 4 year old. This guy has no math understanding what so ever!
I was giving the benefit of the doubt...
TeamPropainTurbo38t 1/23/2011 3:32pm
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silvershoes wrote:
Do the math; Stewart has an overall faster average over 20 Laps at Anaheim 1 and Phoenix. I must be going insane.
TeamPropainTurbo38t wrote:
You gotta take a god damn county college math lesson.....that's what you gotta do.......a higher average lap time over 20 laps can not possibly win as...
You gotta take a god damn county college math lesson.....that's what you gotta do.......a higher average lap time over 20 laps can not possibly win as the overall time would be longer.....fool....
txmxer wrote:
actually, that's 3rd grade math. As was pointed out above, for whatever reason, the lap chart doesn't provide a time for when they complete the first...
actually, that's 3rd grade math.

As was pointed out above, for whatever reason, the lap chart doesn't provide a time for when they complete the first lap, so it APPEARS that James had a faster average time for A1...however, as noted, that is impossible because he did not win the race.

He should be able to put 2 and 2 together.....
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I was there and stewart looked faster than anyone and passed RD twice with ease
Too bad for you and the other JS fans, looking fast doesn't mean crap. Lap times and results are all that matter.
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Motodork wrote:
I was there and stewart looked faster than anyone and passed RD twice with ease
Weeks381fan wrote:
Too bad for you and the other JS fans, looking fast doesn't mean crap. Lap times and results are all that matter.
If you were to take a guess, what airplane do you think is the fastest in the world from zero to 500 mph? F-15, F-16, F-18, F-22?

Answer: It's the Harrier, which doesn't "look" fast at all.
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It is funny to watch James fans try to do Math, that's for damn sure. You guys are missing one line that stood out of this entire thread and I think was the point of it all, and was true. RV HAS MORE RAW SPEED THAN JAMES STEWART!!!! He came from 9th+ and caught him, then passed him. You Bubba Luvas can't stomach that can you? Some of you are making up Math problems that my 5 year old will tell you is wrong. Just to make this easier for you dumb fucks.
1 min per lap average over 20 laps would be 20 minutes
1.01 minute average lap over 20 laps would be 20 minutes and 20 seconds.

How can a guy that has a slower average lap finish ahead of the guy with a faster average lap? Did James find a worm hole?
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Motodork wrote:
I was there and stewart looked faster than anyone and passed RD twice with ease
Weeks381fan wrote:
Too bad for you and the other JS fans, looking fast doesn't mean crap. Lap times and results are all that matter.
pilotdude wrote:
If you were to take a guess, what airplane do you think is the fastest in the world from zero to 500 mph? F-15, F-16, F-18...
If you were to take a guess, what airplane do you think is the fastest in the world from zero to 500 mph? F-15, F-16, F-18, F-22?

Answer: It's the Harrier, which doesn't "look" fast at all.
For real? From 0 to 500?
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silvershoes 1/23/2011 5:10pm
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mxr300ex wrote:
Your only taking laps 2-20 in to account, they ran 20 laps so it would be impossible for Stewart to have a faster average from start...
Your only taking laps 2-20 in to account, they ran 20 laps so it would be impossible for Stewart to have a faster average from start to finish. If you look at the the overall from A1 you will see Stewart finished 9.371 seconds behind Villopoto, over 20 laps thats .46855 seconds a lap slower then Villopoto.
silvershoes wrote:
Do the math; Stewart has an overall faster average over 20 Laps at Anaheim 1 and Phoenix. I must be going insane.
TeamPropainTurbo38t wrote:
You gotta take a god damn county college math lesson.....that's what you gotta do.......a higher average lap time over 20 laps can not possibly win as...
You gotta take a god damn county college math lesson.....that's what you gotta do.......a higher average lap time over 20 laps can not possibly win as the overall time would be longer.....fool....
Please tell me that our educational standards have not slipped this far. Here, I will go step by step so there are no misunderstandings.



Step 1: Get a calculator.



Step 2: Sit down at computer and go on the internet.



Step 3: Visit the following two links which give each laptime by each rider for all 20 laps.



Anaheim 1



Phoenix



Step 4: Look at the individual laptimes for Ryan Villopoto and James Stewart.



Step 5: Add up the total time x 60 and then divide by twenty.



For example, if you add up Ryan Villopoto's 20 individual laptimes and his time is19.65, then you multiply 19.65 x 60 for 1179 and you then divide 1179 by the total number of laps (20) you will get an average laptime of 58.95.



Follow the above pattern for both Ryan Villopoto's times and James Stewart's times and you will see /gasp/ that Stewart has faster laptimes than Ryan Villopoto. The math doesn't lie.



Remember, these are individual laptime totals.
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*along with 90% of the threads that get posted here every Sunday after a great night of racing.
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C'mon people - you're arguing over a few hundreths of a second. They're going the same speed, OK?

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