Hi all, I've got a new (to me) as of last fall 2016 TE 125 that I've put some decent hours on. It's still got the stock top end in it around 70 hours, and I'm planning on switching that out very soon. I went to do some work after a recent ride, and found a small gap in the air filter. The air boot has a decent amount of small, granular desert dust in it, but nothing pooled up. Just looking through the exhaust port, the cylinder is just fine, and the piston has all the normal wear.
In these situations, is the crank in danger of premature wear and failure? Is it worth doing anything more than a heavy overhauled top end? I'd love to hear opinions on what might be the best options for preventive maintenance.
Cheers
If you have the budget then rebuild the whole motor. New main bearings and seals, new big end and small end bearings, new piston kit and then you'll have pretty much a new motor that you can rely on. Also freshen up the water pump ( impeller) seal and shifter seal and all relevan o'rings/ seals whilst the motor is open.
You are already asking if there can be "premature" wear on the crank (all moving parts)
The answer is yes. If there was dirt (dust) sucked in from the faulty filter then I have no doubt that some damage occurred. To what extent you'll never know until the motor is open.
If you don"t have the budget for a rebuild, then flush the motor out with some gasoline to get rid of any foreign matter that could be in there as a result from that air filter. Check for wear on the big end bearing and conrod if /when you freshing up the top end, if you opt for that route.
You also mention wanting to freshing the top end up, that's good, but now you'll have new compression again on a tired bottom end.
Like I said, if you can get the $$$ together for a full rebuild, then do it. It will save you $$$ in the long run. Furthermore, there is the safety issue to consider...a motor shitting itself whilst riding...or even worse, on a face of a jump is never good.
Preventative maintainence is extremely important. Buy a bunch of air filters and always ride the bike with a clean one. If you do that, you'll get more quality life out of your motor.
Good luck, mate.
Thanks for the excellent advice! For the sake of budget, I’ll try and get away with just cleaning out any of the grit. Hopefully I can save up and get the crank rebuilt later this season. Since there’s only 70 total hours of very easy riding by the prior owner, I’m not too worried about the rest of the bottom end needing immediate repair.
Try and run what comes out of that motor through a fine screen or filter of some sort and then you can see what was floating around in there. Might give you some idea as to what kind of damage was done.
Not sure what the point is of looking up the exhaust port as no way to tell if everything looks fine. If you passed dirt through the motor it did accelerate the wear on everything, so rebuild it now before it blows up and ruins the cylinder.
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Do yourself a favor too if you haven't done the carb mod with the slide and everything it will make that bike run so much better.
Just looking to see if the cross hatching is fine, and what the skirt of the piston is like. It’s just a rough way of getting the lay of the land on an engine than I’ve never personally opened up. I’m definitely not going to ride the bike until it’s been rebuilt.
Notching the slide? That's the only mod my googling found out. I'd be very interested in trying that out. Idle has been fine so far, but I've been hunting after a mystery low end bog, so maybe that could help.
That's definitely a good way to go! Fingers crossed for the best, though I'll probably have the crank rebuilt soon regardless.
We put a 150 kit in ours there was a thread I think on KTMtalk or here that gave all the mods with the slide change and notch and jetting specs ours has been great since.
That’s great to know! I’m still gleaning all the archived info regarding the bike, so learning all this is great. How have you liked the 150 kit? I rode a 200 for a while, but I think I still like the 125 for the lively power
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