Edited Date/Time
4/17/2026 11:37am
We'll see how the next few months go and how we pull out the enriched Uranium. BUT, I also just read an Iranian proxy is claiming responsibility for a radioactive bomb in the UK? If this is true, Iran better get control of it's proxies and quick. Iran used to be a prosperous place that women could openly roam the streets in "normal clothing". Let's see if they can evolve to be a thriving nation once again that treats women properly.
TM
Well I hope its true and lasts longer than the ceasefire did, I have doubts but I hope I'm wrong and it is really over and something good comes of the money spent and lives lost. I really hope its not just a " Mission Accomplished " banner style win. And that something more than things just being same as they were before has been accomplished. Like something real, not something like the hyped up obliterated nuclear program BS that came out last year after the bombing.
I doubt they would use nukes if they had them, not that I really know what I'm talking about. Every country that has them knows that if they use them there is a really good chance that things do not end well for them. Especially if they attacked another country that has their own. It seems obvious to me that the power comes from NOT using them, just having them and others knowing that You could defend Yourself with them if provoked. But using them in an unprovoked attack would likely mean the end for that country. Or the beginning of an all out war, either way it would be a suicide mission by a country like Iran to build and use any type of nuke.
You talking about people who strap bombs to them selfs and blow it out ,( because if they kill infidels ) they go to heaven to 72 virgins won't do anything stupid? Genius !!!
If there is one thing we all know we can count on it's the things that President Trump says being 100% truthful and not embellished or exaggerated at all.
Well, that’s not very “woke” of you! 🤣
But, sadly, you’re not wrong.
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Why make a deal at all? If they cant be trusted and would use a nuke if they had one. Its unlikly they will stop working on one if they have been right? If they are willing to take down their entire civilization by using one. How do you know they are not secretly working on one someplace else . We wouldnt until its too late . if they would use it than it really seems like there is only one way to stop that from happening.
They have had missles that can strike places farther away than alot of people thought they could. Im no expert on it. But Trump didnt listen to the US experts that advised him there was no nuclear threat from Iran and that they would close the straight and choke off the oil supply. I would feel better if he listened to the people that advised him instead of Israel.
But really I hope that im wrong on everything and it really ends and results in something better than just going back to how it was before.
Let’s hope that bomb does something useful like blow up the houses of parliament while it’s in session.
That’s a treasonous statement.
meh, stick my head on Tower Bridge. As long as kier Starmer dies of radiation poisoning I’ll die a happy man.
Someone erase this shit before they put Georgie in Belmarsh! 🤣
You don't have to hope you're wrong, you just are wrong. Mostly because you get your talking points from Matti. Your replies are so predictable, instead of addressing the issue it's always a deflection like "I just hope it doesn't go like XYZ", "I just hope he doesn't do what he did over at XYZ", "why does he always talk a big game and then not get what he wants" You have been so programmed by the likes of the coffee crowd, you can't even see progress when it slaps you up side the head. Oddly enough, I think you will eventually see the group you're following in their footsteps are just out of step. But that day is not today.
So who is this "expert" you wanted Trump to take advice from? Are these the same "experts" that got nothing done for half a century with their immense wisdom? Your point about them not being trusted? That's exactly why we got out of Obamas bad deal. THEY CAN'T BE TRUSTED. Now we have new leaders over there, maybe, just maybe they will play ball. As Reagan said "trust but verify"
TM
My local police force have left their Friday night job of wanking off illegal immigrants at the local hotel and are already on their way to arrest me 😂
the thing about them virgins... they're not 21 year old women virgins.
I'm going to assume some of the people involved with the intell now, also gave him the Intell that they had obliterated everything last year, so I guess You are right we can't trust anything they say.
As far as not listening to people about going after Iran now , The people that he picked to be his advisors are the people he didn't listen to. The one that resigned and put it in the letter that Trump was convinced by Israel even though all of the US intel said the threat didn't exist. Vance , and the other people that have been interviewed or made statements saying they were against it. That were not a part of anything Obama.
Listen up you dum dums
hopefully the truce holds, diesel down 40 cents a litre today so thats a good sign,
What are the terms of the deal?
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Short version is They are meeting to negociate the deal and try to finalize the terms. From what ive found online there are conflicting reports of what is agreed to and what still is not agreed to. So nothing is finialized and everything could still change.
Us reportedly proposed unfreezing $6 billion of irans money in return for all or the uranium. And a 20 year stop on enrichment other than for medical use. Iran would also be limited on how they spend that money. Medical ,food and similar humanitarian like things were one thing I saw proppsed.
Iran countered asking for $27b and a 5 year agreement on enriching uranium. They want to keep some and dilute it down to be weaker and send some out.
Axios is reporting that there is an agreement for $20b to be unfreezed and iran would keep some of what they have and weaken it and ship the rest to the us or a third party.
Trump claims they agreed to giving up all the uranium and never making a nuclear weapon and that no money will be paid to iran. Unfreezing billions would technically not be paying them. So who knows if hes speaking of the money involved in a literal sense or the technicalaity of it already being irans money. They just cant use it while its frozen.
Who knows what the end deal will be or if there will be one. It sounds like they are close on some stuff. But iran has not publically said they agreed to everything . And im sure there are tons of othe details that have not been made public.
Since nothing is finalized Who knows what the final details will be . So Im going to hold off on my opinion of if it makes things better ,the same or worse than before. All of the public stuff could change or be either side bluffing to try and work a better deal for themselves .
Edited after I noticed I spelt Trump Tumo. Big thumbs on a cellphone typeing . Wasnt intensional.
Thanks dude. Now i know im not a total idiot because I cant find a stright answer myself.
I find this very frustrating.
There won't be any "straight" answers, because the deal isn't done.
All we will find is opinions, and "leaked" details of what each side is hoping to get. Of course each side is going to spin it like they are getting the better end of the deal, that is the public negotiation part but it doesn't mean shit in reality. Just posturing and trying to look like your side is winning.
In reality, no one ever comes out with everything they wanted. There is always some form of giving to get something in return. But whoever is in the stronger position obviously has the stronger hand to play. And there are only a few dumb dumbs that think Iran has the stronger hand.
But Trump will have to give Iran some things, they have to save face too and not look like they gave away the farm for nothing.
Edit to add- Iran might hold up their end of the deal for a few years, but as soon as they have a POTUS they view as weak they will get right back to their same bullshit.
I had only seen the info on this thread when I had made my first posts and it sounded like everything was all settled and signed. But after some looking around for details I found that its still in the works .
The meeting is set for Monday I dont think i put that in my reply i had seen some stuff saying the us was not confirming the day in one thing I read . But others said people would be ariving over the weekend and talks would happen Monday.
Hopefully they can come to an agreement that results in lasting peace.
These terms—tremendous terms, really—are the best terms anyone’s ever seen, incredibly strong, incredibly smart, people are saying they’ve never seen terms like this before, and frankly, they’re just absolutely fantastic.
Everything he says is a lie. He is not capable of speaking the truth.
And as Billy Connoly said why 72 virgins, better with hooers
A framework of a thing.
Sounds this morning like strait is closed? Shots fired?
I think we're seeing the end of American/Anglosphere (whatever you want to call it) etc dominance. We chucked it all in the bin for 20+ yrs of missteps...
Is he correct? @ 31:40 to 35:20
He's being lead by Netanyahu, who wants the Greater Israel...
https://www.eurasiantimes.com/netanyahus-greater-israel-remarks/
One thing I find interesting, assuming the reports of the enrichment part of the deal are accurate. They are NOT restricted from enriching for medical purposes ever. So does that mean that Iran wants to be able to build nuclear weapon's in 5 years and the Trump admin is asking for 20? Basically giving them permission and approval to do the thing this entire operation was supposed to bring to an end forever. I know that there are not enough details out to truly answer this question.
I'm no expert on uranium, but from google it looks like the only reason You would need to enrich it beyond the levels needed for medical use is for weapons. Medical use is enriched to a higher level than what would be used for power generation. I guess what its allowed to be used for could be the stipulation with not allowing it to be used for power generation until 5or 20 years from now? It seems odd since it doesn't need to be stronger for energy production. I have only spent a short amount of time researching it to try and answer my own questions of what else they would want to use uranium for.
It will be interesting to see what the details are of the deal. Iran having an agreement that gives them the OK for a nuclear weapons program at anytime seems like a big win......... for Iran .
Perhaps somebody that knows more about uranium can provide clarity on what the deal could be as far as the enrichment limitations Iran is asking for. What the reports of the US wanting them to wait 20 years could mean they would be able to do at the end of the 20 years. Since medical enrichment is not being talked about being restricted at all, and use for electric generation seems to require enrichment to a lower level than medical. Or maybe we just wait and find out . I guess if they really were weeks or months from building a useable nuclear weapon, a 20 year extension to that timeframe would provide a lot of time to work out some deal to change what happens in the future. So if they were that close and this mess extends it to 20 years from now, is that a success ?
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