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My suspicion is because a group of people wanted him on that roof top. Is anybody really going to be surprised to find there are splinter groups in our government that influence bad behavior? And who knows how high the real orders come down from? Just look at the operation they ran to get Gretchen Whitmer kidnapped. Not that they would actually let get kidnapped, but for the operation to happen.
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Ain't that the truth 🤣🤣🤣
The campus police chief is a very good friend of a very good friend of mine...(I've met him, but I don't know him)....I also no many people that work at UVU, and who know him...that dude is feeling entirely responsible for this, and is REALLY struggling working through it. No part of be believes he is involved in some conspiracy to allow the shooter on the roof (Like I've seen mentioned online over and over again).
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It's pretty cool to see people step up for someone when they are getting shit on knowing that you might walk away with shit on your own shoes. 👍
And I should clarify, that I don't mean because you might be wrong but because people's minds might already be made up and dislike you for the endorsement.
i appreciate that....and to be clear...I don't know the guy personally (I've met him twice...seemed like a nice guy but I don't personally know him enough to have a dog in the fight)...but I do know my very good friend that knows him VERY well...and I trust him and his opinion of him on this. They've spoken at length about it, multiple times...He's heard (directly from the source...not second hand, not through the media) the securities "side of the story"...So I'm very inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt when he says the guy isn't part of a conspiracy...yes, he allowed a huge mistake to be made, that likely cost Kirk his life (by not covering that roof), and is absolutely devastated by it. But he's not part of some conspiracy where "big government" (or whomever) told him/paid him/threatened him to not cover the roof so they could assassinate Kirk.
Sorry to resurrect an old thread...but my daughter was in a dance competition at UVU, and between her dances, I went and checked out the assassination site, and then retraced the shooters steps all the way back into the neighborhood....A few observations:
1) I was able to get on the roof of the building (they now have temporary chain link fence, and a bunch of surveillance cameras blocking access to the exact spot the shot was fired from...but its still public access on to the roof)...but it was VERY easy to get on that roof with a direct line of site to where Charlie was sitting. Literally walk up three short flights of stairs, and hop over a 3 foot rail fence. I point that out because I've seen some speculate that it would take specialized training to get on the roof, or select that exact spot. Massive security failure in not securing that roof top with the easy access and a direct line of sight at such a close range. I've heard that after getting on the roof he hid behind a half or 3/4 height wall type of thing and assembled his rifle...I don't know how that would work-at least without being discovered-that wall isn't high enough to completely conceal himself while assembling the rifle. Not saying he couldn't have done that...but if he did assemble the rifle there, he certainly wasn't hidden while he did it.
2) On TV and in illustrations of where the shot came from, it looks WAY further than it actually is. Anyone near Charlie would have been able to CLEARLY see him on that roof, and laying on that roof (not a vague silhouette holding a stick, but clearly see a person with a gun). I have no idea how his security team, behind him looking toward the crowd, didn't see him on that roof...it seems almost impossible that he wouldn't have been seen. Anyone with any shooting experience and a sighted-in rifle could have hit a human sized target at that range, no need for any type of sniper training or anything. Though I do believe he was aiming for center mass and missed and got lucky and got his neck.
3) That drop off the roof after making the shot was higher than it looks. I'd guess it was really closer to 15 feet from the roof to the ground.
4) The path he took from his car in the neighborhood, to the roof top wasn't out of the ordinary...walking it yesterday it was full of people...anyone of college age would blend right in.
Anyway...not really a point to this other than it was interesting to be able to go there.
Interesting insight, thank you for sharing.
The bullet that killed Charlie Kirk may not match the rifle allegedly used by defendant Tyler Robinson, new court documents claim.- Source Fox6
I’ve thought from the beginning, that some things didn’t add up. Now this is just another thing. I’m not all that sure that the video of the person hang dropping off the roof and running off is even Tyler Robinson.
New headline. Bullet may match the dip shits rifle. Same thing as may not match. I think they call it inconclusive.
I’ve never actually heard of , not being able to match ballistics with a firearm. But I’m far from being an Authority on this type of thing.
Yet another "you don't hate the media enough" headline.
Lead is soft, if it hits anything remotely hard like bone it gets too deformed to look at the microscopic grooves that get left in the bullet as it is fired. If you have the gun you can test fire similar bullet into water and have perfect example for comparison. The story here is that the round that killed him was too deformed for comparison, not that it doesn't match. This is not at all surprising. Headlines are total bullshit.
The guardian, specifically.
A pure clickbait headline, and speculative story.
But scroll back up and, again, see who couldn't wait to jump in here with yet, another one of his AHA!!! moments.
Hook, line, and sinker.
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Agree 100%. Such BS.
Yeah, I was about to ask him how many times he's fired 30 caliber high powered rifles into things, but I already know by reading his headline.
Prosecutors reveal what analysis of Charlie Kirk bullet and Tyler Robinson’s gun really found
The bullet that killed Charlie Kirk was so damaged that investigators could not confirm that it was fired from Tyler Robinson’s gun — but that also doesn’t mean it came from a different rifle, prosecutors said Tuesday.
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NOTE: Really don't get it that people are down voting this news, or getting mad about this news or just news in general like we see. In this case we see that the prosecutors are saying it is true what the news outlet is saying. There are probably many theories why it is that way, it is also logical that the legal defense team are wanting to look further into this. Just like the FBI is also looking further into this. Maybe he used hollow point bullets, they crumble easier if I'm informed correctly.
To @Joey Bridges this is a clear case of don't shoot the messenger. Nowhere will you see any intent of "Aha", I've posted the title and the storyline with the source. That you're reading this much into things and show signs of being delusional worries me about your wellbeing. Also I've posted "Fox6" as source not "The Guardian". Because some of you are known for hating the media and only trusting FOX and OAN I search what I've read on the MSM on those websites and post the link here.
"Kanekoa The Great:
FOX6 has rewritten their article to make it more clear.
They edited the article to make it factual instead of a sensational lie. This is an edit they never would have had to make if they had done 30 seconds of investigation instead of blasting out the headline ASAP. Usually they don't even bother with the clarification but in this case it was too blatant to ignore. They choose to do it this way because too many people will engage with content that validates them with no concern for whether it's true or not. Some people..... not naming names...... are literally addicted to this kind of content and need to put their crack pipe phone down occasionally.
Yeah, shoot a high powered rifle at a 30mm bone into a bullet catch, and see what you get. It isn't like the TV shows.
And with the rifle he was shooting, or readily available ammunition for it, it's more than likely a soft tipped bullet that promotes fragmentation.
So, as TM's post suggests, metallurgical tests could be done to compare with unfired rounds found with the rifle.
But I just read headlines, so what do I know?
Or seen what happens when the bullet hits bone…
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