Not sure why the Minnesota Ice and Run thread got locked by the originator but.....

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2/3/2026 7:24pm Edited Date/Time 2/3/2026 7:27pm
Freddy99 wrote:

28 pages of people defending the president's personal military murdering citizens

 

to deflect from the president fucking kids

 

and you'd vote for him again 🤣

Meanwhile, I’m laughing at your 16 of 18 page posting history arguing your point.  IMG 3641 5.jpeg?VersionId=oHCXxZddXZ7nVBloUQXXyoE

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Protestors created checkpoints and, are asking for ID’s to see who people are in Minneapolis neighborhoods. 
It’s been cleared out by police since but, 

BORderz Ar baD. 

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Chance1216 wrote:
Protestors created checkpoints and, are asking for ID’s to see who people are in Minneapolis neighborhoods. It’s been cleared out by police since but, BORderz Ar baD.   

Protestors created checkpoints and, are asking for ID’s to see who people are in Minneapolis neighborhoods. 
It’s been cleared out by police since but, 

BORderz Ar baD. 

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So the people screaming that ICE agents are nazis, set up checkpoints where you have to show your papers ???

Okay, got it.

🤔

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Chance1216 wrote:
Protestors created checkpoints and, are asking for ID’s to see who people are in Minneapolis neighborhoods. It’s been cleared out by police since but, BORderz Ar baD.   

Protestors created checkpoints and, are asking for ID’s to see who people are in Minneapolis neighborhoods. 
It’s been cleared out by police since but, 

BORderz Ar baD. 

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So the people screaming that ICE agents are nazis, set up checkpoints where you have to show your papers ???

Okay, got it.

🤔

But, but, but. They’re just keeping their communities safe 😂 

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Chance1216 wrote:
Protestors created checkpoints and, are asking for ID’s to see who people are in Minneapolis neighborhoods. It’s been cleared out by police since but, BORderz Ar baD.   

Protestors created checkpoints and, are asking for ID’s to see who people are in Minneapolis neighborhoods. 
It’s been cleared out by police since but, 

BORderz Ar baD. 

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So the people screaming that ICE agents are nazis, set up checkpoints where you have to show your papers ???

Okay, got it.

🤔

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My favorite part is these kooks calling ANYONE “Fascist”. 🤣

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Chance1216 wrote:
Protestors created checkpoints and, are asking for ID’s to see who people are in Minneapolis neighborhoods. It’s been cleared out by police since but, BORderz Ar baD.   

Protestors created checkpoints and, are asking for ID’s to see who people are in Minneapolis neighborhoods. 
It’s been cleared out by police since but, 

BORderz Ar baD. 

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So the people screaming that ICE agents are nazis, set up checkpoints where you have to show your papers ???

Okay, got it.

🤔

If a group of 5 or 10 people that are doing something means that the entire party  they voted for approves of it, that would make both parties guilty of some pretty messed up ideals. 

 It is hypocritical of that small group to be doing what they are doing to a degree. But the issue that most protesters have  that Ive heard interviewed isnt that they are enforceing immigration.  Its how they are doing it. 

 The larger groups came out to protest after ice had shot and killed 2 protesters . Its the violent and sloppy and random way they are doing it.   

The majority of people were for getting the worst of the worst out. But that not always what is happening now. With  US citizens being taken in and people without a criminal history. I get it that crossing the boarder illegally is a crime. But that hardly makes you the worst of the worst criminals. And the majority of people voted for the worst of the worst to be cleared out. 

It seems clear that most people didnt want ICE to be going to elementary schools and rippping random people  out of their cars  through broken windows .  They voted for targeted deportation of gang members killers etc. 

 

The other reason i hear people give for protesting . Is the lack of due process that was going on at first and could still be . Asking for a day in court for the goverment to proove they have the right person before they remove them from the country. Is NOT defending killers and rapist like many on the right claim. See how I didnt group all of them into that same group after seeing some of them say those things.  

The big bold claims made by both parties about the other party being all for something that a minority of the people in that party are for or doing is feeding the division . It is  hurting the country . 

 Its making people think they are further apart in the way they think and what they believe is good. When that is not reality. The majority of people all want similar things. Just read through this entire thread and look for commonalities amung the posts and you can see it.

 

 Its the details on stuff that people start to disagree on.  I would think that of all places people on a motocross forum could see how one comon thing can bring people together and get people hanging out and working towards a common goal ,even if the dissagree on a lot.  

As a teenager I was riding with people of all ages and I loved how motocross brought people together that would normally not be friends. And we would all work to build tracks on friends property.  And to help injuried riders ,etc.

If only the majority of people in the us could come together on a common love and work together on the things they agree on before tackling the ones they dissagree on. Instead of allowing to be divided by people who are using the division to their advantage. I felt like the people on a motocross board could see things that way and be able to come together on more. I think that some of us are. But some might just enjoy getting people riled up or enjoy the fight. 

Overall im sad that the people I had the most confidence of being able to see how people working together is better than being divided are for the most part just playing the same game .

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"Before allowing people to pass".

Hahaha!!! That's shit's funny right there.

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"Before allowing people to pass".

Hahaha!!! That's shit's funny right there.

Let Broc bye!

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Chance1216 wrote:
Protestors created checkpoints and, are asking for ID’s to see who people are in Minneapolis neighborhoods. It’s been cleared out by police since but, BORderz Ar baD.   

Protestors created checkpoints and, are asking for ID’s to see who people are in Minneapolis neighborhoods. 
It’s been cleared out by police since but, 

BORderz Ar baD. 

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So the people screaming that ICE agents are nazis, set up checkpoints where you have to show your papers ???

Okay, got it.

🤔

If a group of 5 or 10 people that are doing something means that the entire party  they voted for approves of it, that would make...

If a group of 5 or 10 people that are doing something means that the entire party  they voted for approves of it, that would make both parties guilty of some pretty messed up ideals. 

 It is hypocritical of that small group to be doing what they are doing to a degree. But the issue that most protesters have  that Ive heard interviewed isnt that they are enforceing immigration.  Its how they are doing it. 

 The larger groups came out to protest after ice had shot and killed 2 protesters . Its the violent and sloppy and random way they are doing it.   

The majority of people were for getting the worst of the worst out. But that not always what is happening now. With  US citizens being taken in and people without a criminal history. I get it that crossing the boarder illegally is a crime. But that hardly makes you the worst of the worst criminals. And the majority of people voted for the worst of the worst to be cleared out. 

It seems clear that most people didnt want ICE to be going to elementary schools and rippping random people  out of their cars  through broken windows .  They voted for targeted deportation of gang members killers etc. 

 

The other reason i hear people give for protesting . Is the lack of due process that was going on at first and could still be . Asking for a day in court for the goverment to proove they have the right person before they remove them from the country. Is NOT defending killers and rapist like many on the right claim. See how I didnt group all of them into that same group after seeing some of them say those things.  

The big bold claims made by both parties about the other party being all for something that a minority of the people in that party are for or doing is feeding the division . It is  hurting the country . 

 Its making people think they are further apart in the way they think and what they believe is good. When that is not reality. The majority of people all want similar things. Just read through this entire thread and look for commonalities amung the posts and you can see it.

 

 Its the details on stuff that people start to disagree on.  I would think that of all places people on a motocross forum could see how one comon thing can bring people together and get people hanging out and working towards a common goal ,even if the dissagree on a lot.  

As a teenager I was riding with people of all ages and I loved how motocross brought people together that would normally not be friends. And we would all work to build tracks on friends property.  And to help injuried riders ,etc.

If only the majority of people in the us could come together on a common love and work together on the things they agree on before tackling the ones they dissagree on. Instead of allowing to be divided by people who are using the division to their advantage. I felt like the people on a motocross board could see things that way and be able to come together on more. I think that some of us are. But some might just enjoy getting people riled up or enjoy the fight. 

Overall im sad that the people I had the most confidence of being able to see how people working together is better than being divided are for the most part just playing the same game .

Good post squatch. Although I do disagree with some of it, it’s a balanced view/opinion . Something these political threads could use more of. 👍🏻

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Imagine the amount of propaganda it took to convince people that 

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Chance1216 wrote:
Imagine the amount of propaganda it took to convince people that   

Imagine the amount of propaganda it took to convince people that 

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Imagine if they were really just convincing republicans  that democrats thought that was normal......

 

Often when I put fox news on i see them telling everybody how crazy democrats are.  How you should think and feel about them, while they tell you that democrats are always telling people what to think.

 

I was wondering where people were being told what to think and feel by media and democrats. My mom was an avid msnow and cnn viewer  with a little fox thrown in to see a different point of view. Shes an independent but was more left than right.  I never noticed anybody on those channels telling me how to feel. Dont get me wrong everybody has an agenda. And there were plenty of hosts and guests  saying how they felt

Then I saw the segment on fox  and another and another. And thats when I started looking for the lies from the more left leaning media and they do more selective truths than outright lies disguised as opinions like what Ive seen on Fox. They are not totally inocint in the games

 

   I came to the conclusion that Republican politician  often seem to either think or assume their voters are going to blindy follow them. While democrat politician  learned their voters will not blindly follow after wrongly assuming they had certain demographics on lock. 

Well other than the small group of loyal diehard voters that will always vote for their favorite party. But neither party has enough of those. 

 

And the crazy bs that each side is selling you that the other side is all in for. Is an even smaller segment of people in each party. 

Although its looking more like the small segment of republicans that are pro little kid fluffers is the group of people that are leading the party.  While the more fringe beliefs on the democrat side are more random people on social media. 

 

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Chance1216 wrote:
Imagine the amount of propaganda it took to convince people that   

Imagine the amount of propaganda it took to convince people that 

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Bravo!🔥👊🏻

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Honestly. I don’t even watch the news much unless I’m looking for weather updates. I very rarely read the news .

Id prefer to watch the world burn from a section of river I’m fishing. 

When it comes to people trying to force their opinions down our throats, that’s where I have a problem. 
I’m not biased towards any news source. Though, it’s fun posting links  that contradict some opinions when I’m trolling. 

Sometimes, it’s easier to watch the news, turn the volume off and, form your own opinion based on what it is you’re seeing rather than hearing. 

 

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Chance1216 wrote:
Imagine the amount of propaganda it took to convince people that   

Imagine the amount of propaganda it took to convince people that 

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To those that downvoted this. Was this downvoted because it was myself who posted this or, was it because you’re supportive of Trump getting shot? Protests while destroying property and, men with breasts in women’s restrooms? Don’t like the US? 

Don’t be anonymous. What’s the reason? 

Genuinely curious. 

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Chance1216 wrote:
Imagine the amount of propaganda it took to convince people that   

Imagine the amount of propaganda it took to convince people that 

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Chance1216 wrote:
To those that downvoted this. Was this downvoted because it was myself who posted this or, was it because you’re supportive of Trump getting shot? Protests...

To those that downvoted this. Was this downvoted because it was myself who posted this or, was it because you’re supportive of Trump getting shot? Protests while destroying property and, men with breasts in women’s restrooms? Don’t like the US? 

Don’t be anonymous. What’s the reason? 

Genuinely curious. 

That's a really good question, but one that I doubt you'll get answers to. 

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Chance1216 wrote:
Honestly. I don’t even watch the news much unless I’m looking for weather updates. I very rarely read the news .Id prefer to watch the world...

Honestly. I don’t even watch the news much unless I’m looking for weather updates. I very rarely read the news .

Id prefer to watch the world burn from a section of river I’m fishing. 

When it comes to people trying to force their opinions down our throats, that’s where I have a problem. 
I’m not biased towards any news source. Though, it’s fun posting links  that contradict some opinions when I’m trolling. 

Sometimes, it’s easier to watch the news, turn the volume off and, form your own opinion based on what it is you’re seeing rather than hearing. 

 

So who has told you those are "normal" democrat thoughts or things? And that democrats are against the other things? 

I see social media full of the same fox new style claims of people telling people what to think. I had thought that people got that thought from hearing it on the news. But maybe it started as an assumption or some random person that calls the.self a democrat has posted stuff that republicans grabbed and attached to the entire party.

 

Ive only down vote  one post without posting that I had done it. And it wasnt any of yours. I prefer to post my opinions in long wordy posts instead of just hitting the dislike. 

My thoughts on the downvotes are. Some people will just downvote anything posted by certain people. But the other thought was that people could downvote because they dissagree that democrats think that way. 

And another was that theres always something that somebody else might think of that you didn't.  And there are many reasons people would dislike it other than the few you listed.  Your options are a typical biased way of trying to get a point across by assuming there are only the options you listed as the answer.  

When the reality is, that it is just as likley a differnt reason that is not listed.  Opinions are not a multiple choice test with only limited options being available as the acceptable answers. And an opinion you agree with is still an opinion . Just because you agree doesn't change it into a fact. 

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Chance1216 wrote:
Honestly. I don’t even watch the news much unless I’m looking for weather updates. I very rarely read the news .Id prefer to watch the world...

Honestly. I don’t even watch the news much unless I’m looking for weather updates. I very rarely read the news .

Id prefer to watch the world burn from a section of river I’m fishing. 

When it comes to people trying to force their opinions down our throats, that’s where I have a problem. 
I’m not biased towards any news source. Though, it’s fun posting links  that contradict some opinions when I’m trolling. 

Sometimes, it’s easier to watch the news, turn the volume off and, form your own opinion based on what it is you’re seeing rather than hearing. 

 

Every once in a while I'll switch back over to cable television. 

Turn on to the news, any news, and think to myself, "yep, that's the same shit they were talking about last month"

Then switch back over to the streaming stick.

As far as weather forecast, Max Velocity on YouTube does a great job of telling you what's going to happen and why.

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The fatigue is real here....  Really getting old and depressing.  
I really like the "big push" to inspect medical providers... Everyone KNEW what was going on for 6 years!!!

Look at the headlines!
https://bringmethenews.com/

 

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You guys really don't see the difference between wanting immigration enforced, immigration laws changed to close asylum loopholes, labor laws changed to punish employers who hire illegals, versus having a standing domestic army terrorize the streets of American cities and not wanting people that have not been convicted of any crimes sent to foreign prisons?

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Chance1216 wrote:
Imagine the amount of propaganda it took to convince people that   

Imagine the amount of propaganda it took to convince people that 

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Imagine if they were really just convincing republicans  that democrats thought that was normal...... Often when I put fox news on i see them telling everybody how...

Imagine if they were really just convincing republicans  that democrats thought that was normal......

 

Often when I put fox news on i see them telling everybody how crazy democrats are.  How you should think and feel about them, while they tell you that democrats are always telling people what to think.

 

I was wondering where people were being told what to think and feel by media and democrats. My mom was an avid msnow and cnn viewer  with a little fox thrown in to see a different point of view. Shes an independent but was more left than right.  I never noticed anybody on those channels telling me how to feel. Dont get me wrong everybody has an agenda. And there were plenty of hosts and guests  saying how they felt

Then I saw the segment on fox  and another and another. And thats when I started looking for the lies from the more left leaning media and they do more selective truths than outright lies disguised as opinions like what Ive seen on Fox. They are not totally inocint in the games

 

   I came to the conclusion that Republican politician  often seem to either think or assume their voters are going to blindy follow them. While democrat politician  learned their voters will not blindly follow after wrongly assuming they had certain demographics on lock. 

Well other than the small group of loyal diehard voters that will always vote for their favorite party. But neither party has enough of those. 

 

And the crazy bs that each side is selling you that the other side is all in for. Is an even smaller segment of people in each party. 

Although its looking more like the small segment of republicans that are pro little kid fluffers is the group of people that are leading the party.  While the more fringe beliefs on the democrat side are more random people on social media. 

 

Democrats not only told us this was normal…they made laws to prosecute those that didn’t support this insanity…and continue to try to keep this insanity as part of their narrative. I’m pretty sure you know this?!

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Democrat podcasters were just spewing that this was all “not real” and that DJT orchestrated it…just as I’m sure he orchestrated Biden’s instructions to NOT PROVIDE the add’l coverage for DJT & it was Dem’s that put this moron in-charge due to her “alternate lifestyle” being a part of their narrative…(2nd pic of said Moron)

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Democrat Mayor and Democrat Governor DID NOTHING TO STOP WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS PICTURE. In-fact, they fostered it. Meanwhile, hilariously, some call this shit “Mostly Peaceful” and too many fools run with it.

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You guys really don't see the difference between wanting immigration enforced, immigration laws changed to close asylum loopholes, labor laws changed to punish employers who hire...

You guys really don't see the difference between wanting immigration enforced, immigration laws changed to close asylum loopholes, labor laws changed to punish employers who hire illegals, versus having a standing domestic army terrorize the streets of American cities and not wanting people that have not been convicted of any crimes sent to foreign prisons?

“…standing domestic army terrorize the streets of American cities…”

Well, for starters, I’m not gonna sit here and go with your insanity…I’m not gonna a ignore the fact that ICE is enforcing the law and is doing so within the jurisdiction of the U.S. government as defined in The Supremacy Clause of the Constitution while you sit there and write shit like that. 

”…not been convicted of any crimes…”

You’ll have to forgive some of us for not falling for your Maryland Dad narrative…🤣

Meanwhile, you go boy! You keep telling us who the bad guys are and what the law is. 🤨

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Chance1216 wrote:
Imagine the amount of propaganda it took to convince people that   

Imagine the amount of propaganda it took to convince people that 

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Imagine if they were really just convincing republicans  that democrats thought that was normal...... Often when I put fox news on i see them telling everybody how...

Imagine if they were really just convincing republicans  that democrats thought that was normal......

 

Often when I put fox news on i see them telling everybody how crazy democrats are.  How you should think and feel about them, while they tell you that democrats are always telling people what to think.

 

I was wondering where people were being told what to think and feel by media and democrats. My mom was an avid msnow and cnn viewer  with a little fox thrown in to see a different point of view. Shes an independent but was more left than right.  I never noticed anybody on those channels telling me how to feel. Dont get me wrong everybody has an agenda. And there were plenty of hosts and guests  saying how they felt

Then I saw the segment on fox  and another and another. And thats when I started looking for the lies from the more left leaning media and they do more selective truths than outright lies disguised as opinions like what Ive seen on Fox. They are not totally inocint in the games

 

   I came to the conclusion that Republican politician  often seem to either think or assume their voters are going to blindy follow them. While democrat politician  learned their voters will not blindly follow after wrongly assuming they had certain demographics on lock. 

Well other than the small group of loyal diehard voters that will always vote for their favorite party. But neither party has enough of those. 

 

And the crazy bs that each side is selling you that the other side is all in for. Is an even smaller segment of people in each party. 

Although its looking more like the small segment of republicans that are pro little kid fluffers is the group of people that are leading the party.  While the more fringe beliefs on the democrat side are more random people on social media. 

 

And yet you have thousands of liberals marching in the streets doing what the liberal politicians tell them and then you look for right leaning protests and where to you find them? They seem to be pretty nonexistent. You get some pretty big Trump events, but not like people out blocking roads, getting in the way of Law Enforcement. And who's telling them to do that? The traditional media, you can turn on any channel and they'll use the same dog whistle words. What's surprising is that you deny it, or worse yet don't even know it. But that was in jest, it's really no surprise.

TM

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early wrote:
You guys really don't see the difference between wanting immigration enforced, immigration laws changed to close asylum loopholes, labor laws changed to punish employers who hire...

You guys really don't see the difference between wanting immigration enforced, immigration laws changed to close asylum loopholes, labor laws changed to punish employers who hire illegals, versus having a standing domestic army terrorize the streets of American cities and not wanting people that have not been convicted of any crimes sent to foreign prisons?

Lame, it's always more work to clean up the spilled mild than not spill it. The fact that the illegal immigration is almost stopped tells yo the law just needed to be followed. The laws didn't change between Trump and Biden. They just got enforced. So  lets not believe our eyes but the early propaganda. It's all because the laws are bad.

Funny thing is, I look at the border stats and think, I kind of like the laws as they are.

TM

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Honestly. I don’t even watch the news much unless I’m looking for weather updates. I very rarely read the news .Id prefer to watch the world...

Honestly. I don’t even watch the news much unless I’m looking for weather updates. I very rarely read the news .

Id prefer to watch the world burn from a section of river I’m fishing. 

When it comes to people trying to force their opinions down our throats, that’s where I have a problem. 
I’m not biased towards any news source. Though, it’s fun posting links  that contradict some opinions when I’m trolling. 

Sometimes, it’s easier to watch the news, turn the volume off and, form your own opinion based on what it is you’re seeing rather than hearing. 

 

So who has told you those are "normal" democrat thoughts or things? And that democrats are against the other things? I see social media full of the...

So who has told you those are "normal" democrat thoughts or things? And that democrats are against the other things? 

I see social media full of the same fox new style claims of people telling people what to think. I had thought that people got that thought from hearing it on the news. But maybe it started as an assumption or some random person that calls the.self a democrat has posted stuff that republicans grabbed and attached to the entire party.

 

Ive only down vote  one post without posting that I had done it. And it wasnt any of yours. I prefer to post my opinions in long wordy posts instead of just hitting the dislike. 

My thoughts on the downvotes are. Some people will just downvote anything posted by certain people. But the other thought was that people could downvote because they dissagree that democrats think that way. 

And another was that theres always something that somebody else might think of that you didn't.  And there are many reasons people would dislike it other than the few you listed.  Your options are a typical biased way of trying to get a point across by assuming there are only the options you listed as the answer.  

When the reality is, that it is just as likley a differnt reason that is not listed.  Opinions are not a multiple choice test with only limited options being available as the acceptable answers. And an opinion you agree with is still an opinion . Just because you agree doesn't change it into a fact. 

Nobody told me anything. 


But, the damaging of property at every “peaceful” protest speaks for itself. George Floyd. ICE… etc…. 

I’m sure the fall back response (not from you) is going to be, WHUDAHBOUWT JAN SIXTH. That’s the fallback because, that’s the one example. 

I’ll circle back. I’m at work. 

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Chance1216 wrote:
Imagine the amount of propaganda it took to convince people that   

Imagine the amount of propaganda it took to convince people that 

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Imagine if they were really just convincing republicans  that democrats thought that was normal...... Often when I put fox news on i see them telling everybody how...

Imagine if they were really just convincing republicans  that democrats thought that was normal......

 

Often when I put fox news on i see them telling everybody how crazy democrats are.  How you should think and feel about them, while they tell you that democrats are always telling people what to think.

 

I was wondering where people were being told what to think and feel by media and democrats. My mom was an avid msnow and cnn viewer  with a little fox thrown in to see a different point of view. Shes an independent but was more left than right.  I never noticed anybody on those channels telling me how to feel. Dont get me wrong everybody has an agenda. And there were plenty of hosts and guests  saying how they felt

Then I saw the segment on fox  and another and another. And thats when I started looking for the lies from the more left leaning media and they do more selective truths than outright lies disguised as opinions like what Ive seen on Fox. They are not totally inocint in the games

 

   I came to the conclusion that Republican politician  often seem to either think or assume their voters are going to blindy follow them. While democrat politician  learned their voters will not blindly follow after wrongly assuming they had certain demographics on lock. 

Well other than the small group of loyal diehard voters that will always vote for their favorite party. But neither party has enough of those. 

 

And the crazy bs that each side is selling you that the other side is all in for. Is an even smaller segment of people in each party. 

Although its looking more like the small segment of republicans that are pro little kid fluffers is the group of people that are leading the party.  While the more fringe beliefs on the democrat side are more random people on social media. 

 

ToolMaker wrote:
And yet you have thousands of liberals marching in the streets doing what the liberal politicians tell them and then you look for right leaning protests...

And yet you have thousands of liberals marching in the streets doing what the liberal politicians tell them and then you look for right leaning protests and where to you find them? They seem to be pretty nonexistent. You get some pretty big Trump events, but not like people out blocking roads, getting in the way of Law Enforcement. And who's telling them to do that? The traditional media, you can turn on any channel and they'll use the same dog whistle words. What's surprising is that you deny it, or worse yet don't even know it. But that was in jest, it's really no surprise.

TM

And yet still none of that is saying anything is normal.  If they were truly listening to the Democrat leaders words they would stay peaceful. 

     I keep saying that everybody is being manipulated into arguing and fighting with each other on some level. Its not just a single party.   You might think I'm a democrat since I dislike Trump. If You read through my entire posts You would know that's not the case.   I'm unhappy with a lot of what both sides are doing. I have also liked and benefited from stuff both sides have done  at somepoint . 

Trumps just the current one in charge. If there was a Democrat in the white house that had the same accusations that Trump has I would say the same about them. If a democrat was President right now and they were allowing ICE to be so sloppy I would say the same things about ICE and their responsibility. If You replace Trump with ANY democrat , but keep everything that's happening the same , Just replace Trumps name with theirs in what I have written.

 

 The big difference I see between parties is that Republicans think they can't lose votes from their base, and Democrats know they will lose peoples votes because they have made that mistake and seen what happens.  

 I guess maybe I'm slacking on arguing when I see a Democrat Meme posted that is mischaracterizing republicans . But  I would say the same thing about them as I do about that Meme.  And if You pay attention to what I write , You should know by now that I'm an equal opportunity disliker of politicians when they are working to divide and play people against each other, which is most of them right now. Left and right. 

 

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Honestly. I don’t even watch the news much unless I’m looking for weather updates. I very rarely read the news .Id prefer to watch the world...

Honestly. I don’t even watch the news much unless I’m looking for weather updates. I very rarely read the news .

Id prefer to watch the world burn from a section of river I’m fishing. 

When it comes to people trying to force their opinions down our throats, that’s where I have a problem. 
I’m not biased towards any news source. Though, it’s fun posting links  that contradict some opinions when I’m trolling. 

Sometimes, it’s easier to watch the news, turn the volume off and, form your own opinion based on what it is you’re seeing rather than hearing. 

 

So who has told you those are "normal" democrat thoughts or things? And that democrats are against the other things? I see social media full of the...

So who has told you those are "normal" democrat thoughts or things? And that democrats are against the other things? 

I see social media full of the same fox new style claims of people telling people what to think. I had thought that people got that thought from hearing it on the news. But maybe it started as an assumption or some random person that calls the.self a democrat has posted stuff that republicans grabbed and attached to the entire party.

 

Ive only down vote  one post without posting that I had done it. And it wasnt any of yours. I prefer to post my opinions in long wordy posts instead of just hitting the dislike. 

My thoughts on the downvotes are. Some people will just downvote anything posted by certain people. But the other thought was that people could downvote because they dissagree that democrats think that way. 

And another was that theres always something that somebody else might think of that you didn't.  And there are many reasons people would dislike it other than the few you listed.  Your options are a typical biased way of trying to get a point across by assuming there are only the options you listed as the answer.  

When the reality is, that it is just as likley a differnt reason that is not listed.  Opinions are not a multiple choice test with only limited options being available as the acceptable answers. And an opinion you agree with is still an opinion . Just because you agree doesn't change it into a fact. 

Chance1216 wrote:
Nobody told me anything. But, the damaging of property at every “peaceful” protest speaks for itself. George Floyd. ICE… etc…. I’m sure the fall back response (not from...

Nobody told me anything. 


But, the damaging of property at every “peaceful” protest speaks for itself. George Floyd. ICE… etc…. 

I’m sure the fall back response (not from you) is going to be, WHUDAHBOUWT JAN SIXTH. That’s the fallback because, that’s the one example. 

I’ll circle back. I’m at work. 

Continuing I’ll say, what cities burned to the ground when Charlie Kirk was shot?  Everyone blamed the left immediately yet, there were no damages incurred. 
 

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Imagine if they were really just convincing republicans  that democrats thought that was normal...... Often when I put fox news on i see them telling everybody how...

Imagine if they were really just convincing republicans  that democrats thought that was normal......

 

Often when I put fox news on i see them telling everybody how crazy democrats are.  How you should think and feel about them, while they tell you that democrats are always telling people what to think.

 

I was wondering where people were being told what to think and feel by media and democrats. My mom was an avid msnow and cnn viewer  with a little fox thrown in to see a different point of view. Shes an independent but was more left than right.  I never noticed anybody on those channels telling me how to feel. Dont get me wrong everybody has an agenda. And there were plenty of hosts and guests  saying how they felt

Then I saw the segment on fox  and another and another. And thats when I started looking for the lies from the more left leaning media and they do more selective truths than outright lies disguised as opinions like what Ive seen on Fox. They are not totally inocint in the games

 

   I came to the conclusion that Republican politician  often seem to either think or assume their voters are going to blindy follow them. While democrat politician  learned their voters will not blindly follow after wrongly assuming they had certain demographics on lock. 

Well other than the small group of loyal diehard voters that will always vote for their favorite party. But neither party has enough of those. 

 

And the crazy bs that each side is selling you that the other side is all in for. Is an even smaller segment of people in each party. 

Although its looking more like the small segment of republicans that are pro little kid fluffers is the group of people that are leading the party.  While the more fringe beliefs on the democrat side are more random people on social media. 

 

ToolMaker wrote:
And yet you have thousands of liberals marching in the streets doing what the liberal politicians tell them and then you look for right leaning protests...

And yet you have thousands of liberals marching in the streets doing what the liberal politicians tell them and then you look for right leaning protests and where to you find them? They seem to be pretty nonexistent. You get some pretty big Trump events, but not like people out blocking roads, getting in the way of Law Enforcement. And who's telling them to do that? The traditional media, you can turn on any channel and they'll use the same dog whistle words. What's surprising is that you deny it, or worse yet don't even know it. But that was in jest, it's really no surprise.

TM

And yet still none of that is saying anything is normal.  If they were truly listening to the Democrat leaders words they would stay peaceful.    ...

And yet still none of that is saying anything is normal.  If they were truly listening to the Democrat leaders words they would stay peaceful. 

     I keep saying that everybody is being manipulated into arguing and fighting with each other on some level. Its not just a single party.   You might think I'm a democrat since I dislike Trump. If You read through my entire posts You would know that's not the case.   I'm unhappy with a lot of what both sides are doing. I have also liked and benefited from stuff both sides have done  at somepoint . 

Trumps just the current one in charge. If there was a Democrat in the white house that had the same accusations that Trump has I would say the same about them. If a democrat was President right now and they were allowing ICE to be so sloppy I would say the same things about ICE and their responsibility. If You replace Trump with ANY democrat , but keep everything that's happening the same , Just replace Trumps name with theirs in what I have written.

 

 The big difference I see between parties is that Republicans think they can't lose votes from their base, and Democrats know they will lose peoples votes because they have made that mistake and seen what happens.  

 I guess maybe I'm slacking on arguing when I see a Democrat Meme posted that is mischaracterizing republicans . But  I would say the same thing about them as I do about that Meme.  And if You pay attention to what I write , You should know by now that I'm an equal opportunity disliker of politicians when they are working to divide and play people against each other, which is most of them right now. Left and right. 

 

"And yet still none of that is saying anything is normal.  If they were truly listening to the Democrat leaders words they would stay peaceful."

Well, clearly you haven't been listening. You haven't heard the "Leaders" telling folks to "Get in thier faces"? (Which, by the way, is an excellent way to get your eye dotted) If not, you may want to broaden your searches for information.

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early wrote:
You guys really don't see the difference between wanting immigration enforced, immigration laws changed to close asylum loopholes, labor laws changed to punish employers who hire...

You guys really don't see the difference between wanting immigration enforced, immigration laws changed to close asylum loopholes, labor laws changed to punish employers who hire illegals, versus having a standing domestic army terrorize the streets of American cities and not wanting people that have not been convicted of any crimes sent to foreign prisons?

ToolMaker wrote:
Lame, it's always more work to clean up the spilled mild than not spill it. The fact that the illegal immigration is almost stopped tells yo...

Lame, it's always more work to clean up the spilled mild than not spill it. The fact that the illegal immigration is almost stopped tells yo the law just needed to be followed. The laws didn't change between Trump and Biden. They just got enforced. So  lets not believe our eyes but the early propaganda. It's all because the laws are bad.

Funny thing is, I look at the border stats and think, I kind of like the laws as they are.

TM

Propaganda lol.

Is Dan Bongino back to being your primary source of news?

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