James Js7 and The "O show"

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12/24/2010 3:58am Edited Date/Time 12/24/2010 4:01am
AndrewM3 wrote:
What is the deal with James leaving aldon? Ricky left "o show" because he wanted a higher level of training, then james uses aldon for a...
What is the deal with James leaving aldon? Ricky left "o show" because he wanted a higher level of training, then james uses aldon for a few season's, now he jumps ship to O show.
Baker/O show. Does it really matter??

When Baker and the O show take a no talent to the promise land/Championship then I will buy into there awsome book of knowledge. Until then they are just high paid man friends.
12/24/2010 7:00am
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if theres anyone here who thinks there hero's are not doping....go punch yourself in the face for being stupid. you probably believe that politicians dont lie...
if theres anyone here who thinks there hero's are not doping....go punch yourself in the face for being stupid. you probably believe that politicians dont lie. santas real. and elvis is still alive.

people are dumb as shit. nobody believed it was in baseball even when canseco was telling anyone who'd listen.

nobody here has the slightest clue what it means to be as competitive as a professional athlete. when you are than competitive, you will do whatever it takes to win.

the bikes arent legal, so what makes you think their bodies are? shit, the very nature of the sport of motocross is FAR more dangerous than any PED's so who gives a fuck. nobody here is in any position to judge. if you could walk a day in their shoes, and have to deal with the pressure you put on yourself let alone the pressure that comes from friends, family, team, sponsors, etc....you'd be doing anything and everything to get an advantage.

im not implicating anyone specifically. and im not here to judge. as it was said earlier, the PED's are only helpful for those who are already training at their bodies max potential. taking PED's only shows you are that much more competitive than the next guy. the most competitive guy should win.

until youve hired a trainer of aldons ability....better yet, until youve actually needed and been able to handle a trainer of aldons ability, you really should keep your judgement and opinions to your ignorant self.


shit....its unreal how much the "fans" here demand of their riders, then get upset when its suggested that these riders do steroids to live up to your expectations or that they "party" to cope with the pressures of your expectations. theyre human. extraordinary humans, but human nonetheless.
jeffro go punch yourself in the face. PED's are in every major sport known, moto is the most demanding sport in the world where they have the most benefit and people think this sport is clean. ANYBODY who has went out and honestly tried to do a 20min moto balls out knows. these guys are doing 30+2. being able to run your lap times at the end of a moto is HUGE. get real. btw were not talking about steroids they have very little benefit in moto.
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12/24/2010 7:55am
If you are speaking of "Blood doping".....then that may be more common. Injecting of EPO's is another way , but detectable in ways also.

Look , I'm not saying that "ALL" these guys are clean. In fact , I bet quite a few of them may get into things that are perfectly legal to buy , but banned in most sports.

What Jim mentioned a few posts back , was that where ever Aldon goes...the drugs follow. At least that is what he is implying. Everyone can have their own opinion on the matter.

My point is.....there are guys ( especially some of the younger to mid 20 guys ) that are healthy as hell. And building strength and endurance for two 30 min+2 lap motos is

My point was also....why point the finger at just RC? Stewart is in Phenomenal shape as well ( look back at the 2005 and 2008 nationals ). I don't see the finger being pointed at him. Yeah....he passed a blood test.....1 blood test that I know of.

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12/24/2010 8:06am
jeffro503 wrote:
I have way more knowledge on this subject than you could possibly understand my friend. There is a small percentage of people out there that just...
I have way more knowledge on this subject than you could possibly understand my friend.



There is a small percentage of people out there that just plain and simple have the genetics to do well at what they compete in.



There were a couple friends of mine i went to hi-school with that fit the exact same stereotypical "drug users" you guys are trying to find. And you know what.....they were not!



At least not the type of drugs you guys are implying. One example is a buddy of mine named Alan. The dude had started smoking weed when he was in 8th grade. And still to this day.....he smokes weed. All the years of growing up around this guy , he never visited a gym to save his life. what pissed me off about him was....he was built like fucking Tarzan! I worked out all the time , and couldn't get myself to even come close to what he looked like. He was strong as a friggin' ox on top of it.



OR....the 3 pense brothers I grew up with. all three of those guys had mutant strength....and all 3 almost made it into the NFL out of college. All three of them were benching over 380lbs in hi-school. Mike....the youngest one , put up 440lbs his senior year.



Genetics.



Am I saying that some riders don't dope? NO.....I know some of them probably do. But you can't accuse someone of doing it , unless you have proof.



Bottom line.....if you were any kind of an athlete in school and up to your mid to later 20's.....how did you feel? i don't know about you , but i felt indestructible! i didn't need any drugs to make me feel that way.....and some of these guys that are being accused of doping.....live a hell of a lot cleaner life than I ever did. + they have a shit load of talent on top of it.



I also come to realize , that "most" of the guys that start throwing accusations around like that , are guys that had no hope at all making it in this sport. They were born with shitty genetics.........so "they" think , in "their" mind.......another person couldn't possibly achieve better....without doping!



Sorry....but I have some fat friends , some short friends , some tall and lanky friends , and some friends that are built like a sherman tank. We all have different genetics.



It's always easy to throw in the "doping" thing.......when someone else passes you up 10X in the sport you love. learn to deal with it.



I'm done.
The part that your missing is that when the pense brothers didn't make it to the NFL, what seperated them from the other mutants?
When you have equality in strength you have to find an edge. When your genetic gifts don't get the job done what do you do next?

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12/24/2010 8:08am
jeffro503 wrote:
If you are speaking of "Blood doping".....then that may be more common. Injecting of EPO's is another way , but detectable in ways also. Look...
If you are speaking of "Blood doping".....then that may be more common. Injecting of EPO's is another way , but detectable in ways also.

Look , I'm not saying that "ALL" these guys are clean. In fact , I bet quite a few of them may get into things that are perfectly legal to buy , but banned in most sports.

What Jim mentioned a few posts back , was that where ever Aldon goes...the drugs follow. At least that is what he is implying. Everyone can have their own opinion on the matter.

My point is.....there are guys ( especially some of the younger to mid 20 guys ) that are healthy as hell. And building strength and endurance for two 30 min+2 lap motos is

My point was also....why point the finger at just RC? Stewart is in Phenomenal shape as well ( look back at the 2005 and 2008 nationals ). I don't see the finger being pointed at him. Yeah....he passed a blood test.....1 blood test that I know of.

Jim didn't point the finger at anyone other than Aldon.
12/24/2010 8:14am
Mid 2000 Rc already had become one of the winningest riders in the sport.

Taking down McGrath a year later was just evolution of sports, all things equal the younger man will eventually gain the experience to win and not look back.

Stewart then got there and RC moved on.

Now before we expected it it may be Stewart who gets moved on by the talent and outside interests / opportunities

And sme say they are all on dope. If so how far back?
Does the dope keep you consistent? When will the riders stop talking about set up and blame their cocktails?

What do the riders who occasionally beat the dopers take?

And is McGrath the last clean champ. ( minus maybe some weed)
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12/24/2010 8:21am
Mid 2000 Rc already had become one of the winningest riders in the sport. Taking down McGrath a year later was just evolution of sports, all...
Mid 2000 Rc already had become one of the winningest riders in the sport.

Taking down McGrath a year later was just evolution of sports, all things equal the younger man will eventually gain the experience to win and not look back.

Stewart then got there and RC moved on.

Now before we expected it it may be Stewart who gets moved on by the talent and outside interests / opportunities

And sme say they are all on dope. If so how far back?
Does the dope keep you consistent? When will the riders stop talking about set up and blame their cocktails?

What do the riders who occasionally beat the dopers take?

And is McGrath the last clean champ. ( minus maybe some weed)
Winning and taking PEDs have nothing to do with each other. The PEDs are a training tool. It allows for a faster recovery time, which in turn allows for better training.
A pro level racer can over train, and it damages the body, which in turn hampers a riders performance rather than helping it.
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12/24/2010 8:25am
BTW Guys:

I don't believe that PEDs were illegal with RC was riding, but they are today.

Please someone feel free to correct me, because I haven't pick up a rule book in years so I could be wrong.
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12/24/2010 8:29am
Listening to you guys talk about doping is like a 10 year old finding his dad's playboy and explaining sex to his friends.
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12/24/2010 8:31am
Matt414 wrote:
Listening to you guys talk about doping is like a 10 year old finding his dad's playboy and explaining sex to his friends.
They all seem to take it as a personal attack on their heroes.
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12/24/2010 8:38am
Matt414 wrote:
Listening to you guys talk about doping is like a 10 year old finding his dad's playboy and explaining sex to his friends.
jmar wrote:
They all seem to take it as a personal attack on their heroes.
Yes, yes they do. I am sure I'll get blasted for this. But most of these people here have no clue how any professional sport works. What people think and what is reality are two different things. This is no different.
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12/24/2010 8:42am
Mod Killer wrote:
if theres anyone here who thinks there hero's are not doping....go punch yourself in the face for being stupid. you probably believe that politicians dont lie...
if theres anyone here who thinks there hero's are not doping....go punch yourself in the face for being stupid. you probably believe that politicians dont lie. santas real. and elvis is still alive.

people are dumb as shit. nobody believed it was in baseball even when canseco was telling anyone who'd listen.

nobody here has the slightest clue what it means to be as competitive as a professional athlete. when you are than competitive, you will do whatever it takes to win.

the bikes arent legal, so what makes you think their bodies are? shit, the very nature of the sport of motocross is FAR more dangerous than any PED's so who gives a fuck. nobody here is in any position to judge. if you could walk a day in their shoes, and have to deal with the pressure you put on yourself let alone the pressure that comes from friends, family, team, sponsors, etc....you'd be doing anything and everything to get an advantage.

im not implicating anyone specifically. and im not here to judge. as it was said earlier, the PED's are only helpful for those who are already training at their bodies max potential. taking PED's only shows you are that much more competitive than the next guy. the most competitive guy should win.

until youve hired a trainer of aldons ability....better yet, until youve actually needed and been able to handle a trainer of aldons ability, you really should keep your judgement and opinions to your ignorant self.


shit....its unreal how much the "fans" here demand of their riders, then get upset when its suggested that these riders do steroids to live up to your expectations or that they "party" to cope with the pressures of your expectations. theyre human. extraordinary humans, but human nonetheless.
FWIW, I agree with this.

Honestly, I could care less whether somebody uses or not. If it was me, I would do whatever I had to to be the best, as long as it was safe. And, with the exception of EPO, I know that these compounds, when used properly are safe and effective.

No judging here.

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12/24/2010 8:42am
And is McGrath the last clean champ. ( minus maybe some weed)

Don't forget the blow...
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12/24/2010 1:29pm
TerryB wrote:
And is McGrath the last clean champ. ( minus maybe some weed)

Don't forget the blow...
imagine railin lines with mc while fro hit a bong in the corner and bubba and rc are in the kitchen putting their blood in the refrigerator. thatd be an awesome party!
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12/24/2010 3:25pm
jmar wrote:
BTW Guys: I don't believe that PEDs were illegal with RC was riding, but they are today. Please someone feel free to correct me, because I...
BTW Guys:

I don't believe that PEDs were illegal with RC was riding, but they are today.

Please someone feel free to correct me, because I haven't pick up a rule book in years so I could be wrong.
I think you are correct Jim. Pretty sure either this year or in 09 was the first that riders had to sign a WADA waiver for the FIM to compete in SX (450 class only).
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12/25/2010 4:12pm
Mod Killer wrote:
if theres anyone here who thinks there hero's are not doping....go punch yourself in the face for being stupid. you probably believe that politicians dont lie...
if theres anyone here who thinks there hero's are not doping....go punch yourself in the face for being stupid. you probably believe that politicians dont lie. santas real. and elvis is still alive.

people are dumb as shit. nobody believed it was in baseball even when canseco was telling anyone who'd listen.

nobody here has the slightest clue what it means to be as competitive as a professional athlete. when you are than competitive, you will do whatever it takes to win.

the bikes arent legal, so what makes you think their bodies are? shit, the very nature of the sport of motocross is FAR more dangerous than any PED's so who gives a fuck. nobody here is in any position to judge. if you could walk a day in their shoes, and have to deal with the pressure you put on yourself let alone the pressure that comes from friends, family, team, sponsors, etc....you'd be doing anything and everything to get an advantage.

im not implicating anyone specifically. and im not here to judge. as it was said earlier, the PED's are only helpful for those who are already training at their bodies max potential. taking PED's only shows you are that much more competitive than the next guy. the most competitive guy should win.

until youve hired a trainer of aldons ability....better yet, until youve actually needed and been able to handle a trainer of aldons ability, you really should keep your judgement and opinions to your ignorant self.


shit....its unreal how much the "fans" here demand of their riders, then get upset when its suggested that these riders do steroids to live up to your expectations or that they "party" to cope with the pressures of your expectations. theyre human. extraordinary humans, but human nonetheless.
Dear Mod Killer,

relax.............. easy on the name calling.... easy does it Smile

So based on what you said does that make JS7 and the O'Show " The Dope Show."

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12/25/2010 9:27pm
What is the best ped out there and where can I buy it?
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Who am I kidding? I'm not going to work out! I'll just score a 20 sack and a pepporoni pizza for A1's broadcast.Silly

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