GSP v. Kos

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I predict Le Pain! Hope GSP dismantles Kos's face.

Its a pretty good card:


Main Bouts:

Georges St-Pierre (170) vs. Josh Koscheck (169)
Stefan Struve (253) vs. Sean McCorkle (264)
Jim Miller (155) vs. Charles Oliveira (153.5)
Joe Stevenson (155.5) vs. Mac Danzig (156)
Thiago Alves (171) vs. John Howard (171)

Preliminary Bouts:

Dustin Hazelett (155) vs. Mark Bocek (155.5)
Rafael Natal (185) vs. Jesse Bongfeldt (180.5)
Matt Riddle (170.5) vs. Sean Pierson (170.5)
Dan Miller (184.5) vs. Joe Doerksen (185.5)
Ricardo Almeida (170.5lbs) vs. T.J. Grant (170lbs)
John Makdessi (155lbs) vs. Pat Audinwood (156lbs)
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Here's link if anyone wants to watch. hope i don't get in trouble posting this..Sad



Watch here!
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12/11/2010 9:52pm
ocscottie wrote:
I predict Le Pain! Hope GSP dismantles Kos's face. Its a pretty good card: Main Bouts: Georges St-Pierre (170) vs. Josh Koscheck (169) Stefan Struve (253)...
I predict Le Pain! Hope GSP dismantles Kos's face.

Its a pretty good card:


Main Bouts:

Georges St-Pierre (170) vs. Josh Koscheck (169)
Stefan Struve (253) vs. Sean McCorkle (264)
Jim Miller (155) vs. Charles Oliveira (153.5)
Joe Stevenson (155.5) vs. Mac Danzig (156)
Thiago Alves (171) vs. John Howard (171)

Preliminary Bouts:

Dustin Hazelett (155) vs. Mark Bocek (155.5)
Rafael Natal (185) vs. Jesse Bongfeldt (180.5)
Matt Riddle (170.5) vs. Sean Pierson (170.5)
Dan Miller (184.5) vs. Joe Doerksen (185.5)
Ricardo Almeida (170.5lbs) vs. T.J. Grant (170lbs)
John Makdessi (155lbs) vs. Pat Audinwood (156lbs)
You called it.
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12/11/2010 9:54pm
How in the world could anyone doubt GSP's dominance?

Dude is simply the baddest mofo on the planet.

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He picked his face apart with that jab. I know GSP was bummed he didnt get to finish him, but that was about as dominant as you can be w/o finishing him. Got to give credit where credit is due though, Kos is one tough SOB.

Some good fights, the Skyscraper Struve fight was awesome, he was in some serious danger from that kimura, but turned it around and finished him.

Good night of fighting. And how about that crowd! that was the loudest UFC crowd i have ever heard, they were going OFF for their boy GSP.
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12/11/2010 10:02pm
TerryK wrote:
How in the world could anyone doubt GSP's dominance?

Dude is simply the baddest mofo on the planet.
You Great White Northerners know how to bring for the hometown! They (the crowd) were awesome and had that place rocking!
12/11/2010 10:21pm
So happy koscheck got made look stupid, he was a complete douche the whole TUF

and before anyone says he was classy and humble in defeat. most people are when they get tooled as bad as him.
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12/12/2010 2:48am
Freddie Roach probably had a lot to do with that eye of Koscheck.
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So happy koscheck got made look stupid, he was a complete douche the whole TUF and before anyone says he was classy and humble in defeat...
So happy koscheck got made look stupid, he was a complete douche the whole TUF

and before anyone says he was classy and humble in defeat. most people are when they get tooled as bad as him.
X2. Wish I could have watched it.
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txmxer wrote:
X2. Wish I could have watched it.
I put a link up for people to watch,guess some didn't catch it in time. I'll throw the link up for UFC 125 the night of the fight.
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So happy koscheck got made look stupid, he was a complete douche the whole TUF and before anyone says he was classy and humble in defeat...
So happy koscheck got made look stupid, he was a complete douche the whole TUF

and before anyone says he was classy and humble in defeat. most people are when they get tooled as bad as him.
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X2. Wish I could have watched it.
You can re watch all the fights here: http://www.pancrase.org/

They have them all split up into individual clips
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ocscottie wrote:
You can re watch all the fights here: http://www.pancrase.org/

They have them all split up into individual clips
Thx for the link.
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12/12/2010 11:46am Edited Date/Time 12/12/2010 12:44pm
To me it is unbelievable that Kos thought he could win, he seemed to honestly think he could do it. Good thing he failed but very expected. Gotta love how GSP comes to the post fight press conf in a suit and tie, instead of in a cap and crappy t-shirt. GSP is a very good ambassador for the sport.
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12/12/2010 12:30pm
GSP is the definition of pure class.

His jab last night was so spot on he could of won that fight with his other hand tied behind his back.
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12/12/2010 12:39pm
ocscottie wrote:
You can re watch all the fights here: http://www.pancrase.org/

They have them all split up into individual clips
Cigaro wrote:
Thx for the link.
Hey Cig, have you ever heard of

http://www.mma-tv.net

They are THE place to go for MMA vids/streams. Their stream is up 100% of the time and you can donate like $10 through paypal and become a PRO member and get a HQ stream. I have been using it for years. they cover everything MMA, not just UFC. Check it out of you havent.
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12/12/2010 12:43pm
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GSP is the definition of pure class. His jab last night was so spot on he could of won that fight with his other hand tied...
GSP is the definition of pure class.

His jab last night was so spot on he could of won that fight with his other hand tied behind his back.
masterful performance. He talked about being disappointed because he did not knock Kos out. But, he showed world class discipline and didn't give Kos a single opportunity to do much of anything.

If it were an MX race, he lapped Kos...several times.
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Did you watch the Skyscraper Struve fight? (Sean McCorkle vs. Stefan Struve) That was an awesome fight, i dig the Skyscraper, the dude is 6'11"!! he had a helluva comeback, i thought he was done with the gnarly kimura he was in, but reversed it and put the hammer down.
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12/12/2010 12:58pm
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Did you watch the Skyscraper Struve fight? [url=http://www.pancrase.org/sean-mccorkle-vs-stefan-struve-ufc-124/12-12-2010/](Sean McCorkle vs. Stefan Struve)[/url] That was an awesome fight, i dig the Skyscraper, the dude is 6'11"!! he...
Did you watch the Skyscraper Struve fight? (Sean McCorkle vs. Stefan Struve) That was an awesome fight, i dig the Skyscraper, the dude is 6'11"!! he had a helluva comeback, i thought he was done with the gnarly kimura he was in, but reversed it and put the hammer down.
I haven't seen it. Which one did all the talking before the fight?
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12/12/2010 1:11pm
Both of them, but the other dude really initiated it.
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struve has had a couple of awesome comebacks from what i can remember.... i would not like that guy in full mount raining down bombs in my face, shit's gonna leave a mark

that GSP fight reminded me of Lennox Lewis vs Mike Tyson.... jab jab jab jab.... nothing Kos could about it

couldn't happen to a nicer guy haha
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12/12/2010 2:32pm Edited Date/Time 12/12/2010 2:33pm
ocscottie wrote:
Hey Cig, have you ever heard of http://www.mma-tv.net They are THE place to go for MMA vids/streams. Their stream is up 100% of the time and...
Hey Cig, have you ever heard of

http://www.mma-tv.net

They are THE place to go for MMA vids/streams. Their stream is up 100% of the time and you can donate like $10 through paypal and become a PRO member and get a HQ stream. I have been using it for years. they cover everything MMA, not just UFC. Check it out of you havent.
No, I haven't heard of it. I'm a little hesitant when it comes to having to sign up for sites that leak fights or movies for certain reasons. I was using http://mmahits.com/ for a while but Dana Whites parade to shut down all these streaming sites or next day post fight sites have run my list dry.



Another one I use is http://www.mmashare.info/

But I'm all ears for new sites so keep em coming.
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Cig, a lot of sites have come and gone, but MMA-TV has been there from the beginning. I have been with them for going on 6 years...hope i didnt just jinx them Cool
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ocscottie wrote:
You can re watch all the fights here: http://www.pancrase.org/

They have them all split up into individual clips
Cigaro wrote:
Thx for the link.
ocscottie wrote:
Hey Cig, have you ever heard of http://www.mma-tv.net They are THE place to go for MMA vids/streams. Their stream is up 100% of the time and...
Hey Cig, have you ever heard of

http://www.mma-tv.net

They are THE place to go for MMA vids/streams. Their stream is up 100% of the time and you can donate like $10 through paypal and become a PRO member and get a HQ stream. I have been using it for years. they cover everything MMA, not just UFC. Check it out of you havent.
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i dont know about you guys, but i found the fight extremely boring.

dont get me wrong, GSP is a great fighter and athlete. but he took no chances whatsoever.

imo, if there isnt a knockout or submission, the fight should be a draw. no winners bonus.

it would force the more dominant fighter (gsp) to have to take some sort of risk and actually fight the guy rather than play the safe tactitian. the one time GSP tried to go in for the kill, koscheck almost got his leg and could have really turned the fight.

did GSP dominate? yes. did he do more damage, of course. but did he win the fight? i dont think so. koscheck was still standing at the end and willing to fight back.

weve seen way to many boring boxing matches in our lifetime (mayweather is notorious for playing it safe) and now its become rampant in mma. the easy fix is to eliminate the score cards and just call it a draw and force a rematch or extra rounds.
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12/13/2010 11:23pm
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i dont know about you guys, but i found the fight extremely boring. dont get me wrong, GSP is a great fighter and athlete. but he...
i dont know about you guys, but i found the fight extremely boring.

dont get me wrong, GSP is a great fighter and athlete. but he took no chances whatsoever.

imo, if there isnt a knockout or submission, the fight should be a draw. no winners bonus.

it would force the more dominant fighter (gsp) to have to take some sort of risk and actually fight the guy rather than play the safe tactitian. the one time GSP tried to go in for the kill, koscheck almost got his leg and could have really turned the fight.

did GSP dominate? yes. did he do more damage, of course. but did he win the fight? i dont think so. koscheck was still standing at the end and willing to fight back.

weve seen way to many boring boxing matches in our lifetime (mayweather is notorious for playing it safe) and now its become rampant in mma. the easy fix is to eliminate the score cards and just call it a draw and force a rematch or extra rounds.
Wow. Just wow. Might as well just have them fight to the death right? No need for these guys to have longevity in the sport and a healthy life afterwards. Its all about going broke for guys like you. Not shocked you are a Raiders fan.
12/14/2010 12:52am
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i dont know about you guys, but i found the fight extremely boring. dont get me wrong, GSP is a great fighter and athlete. but he...
i dont know about you guys, but i found the fight extremely boring.

dont get me wrong, GSP is a great fighter and athlete. but he took no chances whatsoever.

imo, if there isnt a knockout or submission, the fight should be a draw. no winners bonus.

it would force the more dominant fighter (gsp) to have to take some sort of risk and actually fight the guy rather than play the safe tactitian. the one time GSP tried to go in for the kill, koscheck almost got his leg and could have really turned the fight.

did GSP dominate? yes. did he do more damage, of course. but did he win the fight? i dont think so. koscheck was still standing at the end and willing to fight back.

weve seen way to many boring boxing matches in our lifetime (mayweather is notorious for playing it safe) and now its become rampant in mma. the easy fix is to eliminate the score cards and just call it a draw and force a rematch or extra rounds.
did gsp win the fight??? he broke josh's orbital socket, i'm pretty sure thats winning.

A lot of the fighter are becoming smarted and using game plans, GSP's game plan was to out strike Kos, he did it.

Not every fight is going to be a KO or SUB.

Koscheck is the one everyone should be pissed at, At the start of the 4th round he knew he would lose a decision, so why didn't he lay it all the on line. The last 30 seconds of the fight koscheck should of gone crazy trying to get a ko or sub, he has lost the fight so he might as well try finish it.

If you watch it again Kos wasn't willing to fight back in the last round, he wanted it over, he had been broken mentally and physically. and pretty much evaded and threw a couple every now and then.

To solve the problem we need to make a bonus for having a go, so if your losing and theres 2 minutes left, go crazy, try to pull something off.
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12/14/2010 2:01am Edited Date/Time 12/14/2010 2:03am
no aussie. they BOTH were playing it safe. koscheck for good reason, and GSP because he knew he could rely on the judges.



would you not agree that if GSP had been more agressive, he would have opened himself up a little to koscheck? would the fight have been more interesting. you'd be lying if you were to disagree. i watched the fight at a ufc party in vegas (the sports un-official hometown) and nobody was real happy with that fight (or lack thereof).



either they are going to fight or they arent. that wasnt what i'd call a fight. the crowd didnt boo cause it was their guy leading the points, but had that fight been anywhere else it wouldnt have gone over so well.



anderson silva does the same shit. granted, hes not nearly as classy an individual as GSP so fans dont let it slide.



people pay to see a fight...not two guys tip-toe'ing around each other from a distance. i want to see a clear winner. yes GSP was clearly winning the fight, but in my opinion he didnt finish it. forgive me if that comes across as barbaric, but what do you expect, its the ultimate FIGHTING championships, its not to much to ask to see a real fight. banking on the judges cards and playing it safe isnt the sole reason boxing is in the dumpster, but its definitely an epidemic that aint helping. i just think it sux that mma is going that route.
12/14/2010 3:10am
yeah i agree with fighter should open up more and be aggressive when they are able to.
GSP could of easily done it by circling to the left.

The thing i find different is.

Say at the 4th round in a fight, fighter A has been dominating fighter B, and fighter B's only real chance is to get a lucky KO or SUB,

Fighter A would be stupid to going all out crazy when he is winning, unless he has a clear opportunity.
Fighter B is already down on points and is being out classed, he has nothing to risk.
Fighter B should be taking risks and almost fighting stupid

Another way to put it.
A motocross championship comes down to the final race with rider A leading by two points over rider B.

last lap the race rider A is leading, and rider B is in second,
Shouldn't rider B ride like a maniac risking himself for the win, knowing that if he doesn't get pass, he loses anyway.

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