2007 Honda CR250R Refresh

mxaniac
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8/27/2025 10:44am
Bearuno wrote:
The frame spars on a typical Japanese or European MC frame are, generally, a 7000 series Alloy. And, a highly  Weldable 7000 series variant. That requires...

The frame spars on a typical Japanese or European MC frame are, generally, a 7000 series Alloy. And, a highly  Weldable 7000 series variant. That requires No heat treatment  after welding.

I can't tell you the exact variant - The factories have so much 'pull' / buying / ordering / 'quantities required' power, that they often have proprietary Alloys done for them. I've had a mate at Uni  do analysis's  of many types of alloys over the years on frames and other 'jobs' (as it's a mater of Safety / Rules and Regulations), and he's very often been  confronted with Aluminium 'concoctions' that he has never come across. 

I've done  many repairs to Aluminum frames over the decades, with NO Problems. I'm Not a f**king Amateur / Dilettante. 

A skilled welder can do a fill in with a single pass, that can then be easily filed / linished / sanded back. A hack, that fumbles and bumbles, doing multiple passes, well, Hacks can ( and Will) f**k up anything.........

I suggested the weld, as the OP has wisely chosen to do a full 'framed' rebuild. And, he's already got someone having to apply a TIG Torch to it. He's got a survivor on his hands ( and, I hope it's a 'keeper' for him, as it's the last of a great line of Bikes) and it looks like he wants to do a Proper, more than just a cosmetic rebuild - and, I love seeing that. 

Do it or Not - it sure as hell will Not weaken the frame, if done by a Real TIG specialist.

It drives me nuts when I see people - the vast majority - Not put something between Plastic and Aluminium. 

7005, it's common because it can be post weld precipitation hardened at much lower temperatures than something like 6061. It absolutely requires "heat treatment" after welding to retain anything near the strength of the T6 condition. An internet search will provide the process, but I was able to do a frame at under 500C which is the beauty of 7005.

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Speeddemon73
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9/2/2025 1:16pm
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Dropped the frame off to the fab shop and had it back by lunch. Drilled and installed a timecert for the exhaust mount and she’s back in business. Also had some deep grooves in the frame filled in while it was there. 

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