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yak651
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mtbkris2 wrote:
When teams like star sign riders like pierce, are they signing them just looking for a random race win or two or do they sign these...

When teams like star sign riders like pierce, are they signing them just looking for a random race win or two or do they sign these people thinking they’ll bring home a championship for the team?  Genuine question, because when I look at riders like Thrasher, Smith, and Brown, I see riders that are guaranteed to give a flash or two of brilliance that’ll lead to a win or two, but never actually finish a season 

Once Deegs is out of 250s people will start to question Stars results, especially outdoors

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8/9/2025 10:51am
mtbkris2 wrote:
When teams like star sign riders like pierce, are they signing them just looking for a random race win or two or do they sign these...

When teams like star sign riders like pierce, are they signing them just looking for a random race win or two or do they sign these people thinking they’ll bring home a championship for the team?  Genuine question, because when I look at riders like Thrasher, Smith, and Brown, I see riders that are guaranteed to give a flash or two of brilliance that’ll lead to a win or two, but never actually finish a season 

Smith doesn’t ride for star but anyways all 3 of those guys have been potential threats for supercross titles. So yes they sign people they think can win titles.

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With Vialle leaving, if Kitchen doesn’t figure out, next summer is going to be a battle of the teammates between Jo and Hymas. Those were the only...

With Vialle leaving, if Kitchen doesn’t figure out, next summer is going to be a battle of the teammates between Jo and Hymas. 

Those were the only ones who could put a candle to Deegan (aside from Jmart 😂)

I like Jo, but if Hymas can stay healthy, he’s the top dog next year.

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Spudinki45 wrote:
With Vialle leaving, if Kitchen doesn’t figure out, next summer is going to be a battle of the teammates between Jo and Hymas. Those were the only...

With Vialle leaving, if Kitchen doesn’t figure out, next summer is going to be a battle of the teammates between Jo and Hymas. 

Those were the only ones who could put a candle to Deegan (aside from Jmart 😂)

Press516 wrote:

I like Jo, but if Hymas can stay healthy, he’s the top dog next year.

If Davies rides outdoors as well as he rides indoors then I beg to differ 

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They are watering wtf someone is tucking the front on the 450 class…why ruin a perfect race track! 

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Deegan complimented Joe, everyone gonna be ok? 

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mtbkris2 wrote:
When teams like star sign riders like pierce, are they signing them just looking for a random race win or two or do they sign these...

When teams like star sign riders like pierce, are they signing them just looking for a random race win or two or do they sign these people thinking they’ll bring home a championship for the team?  Genuine question, because when I look at riders like Thrasher, Smith, and Brown, I see riders that are guaranteed to give a flash or two of brilliance that’ll lead to a win or two, but never actually finish a season 

I don’t know man 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️ I think they see the speed and think that they can be the team to put it all together for them to make a legit run at a championship. I like Pierce and Smith and if I owned a team I would sign them. If they don’t bring a title, they’ll be the filler guys that bring podiums and a win or two. 

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Weege saying "A lot of riders probably jealous of that beard" while the camera is showing Jett is diabolical 😭😂

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8/9/2025 10:59am Edited Date/Time 8/9/2025 11:04am
mtbkris2 wrote:
When teams like star sign riders like pierce, are they signing them just looking for a random race win or two or do they sign these...

When teams like star sign riders like pierce, are they signing them just looking for a random race win or two or do they sign these people thinking they’ll bring home a championship for the team?  Genuine question, because when I look at riders like Thrasher, Smith, and Brown, I see riders that are guaranteed to give a flash or two of brilliance that’ll lead to a win or two, but never actually finish a season 

yak651 wrote:

Once Deegs is out of 250s people will start to question Stars results, especially outdoors

Not if that Dudney kid can put it together. That kid is FAST. I’m more worried about Mitch’s team and their top guy Kitchen and his results. 

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Jett’s gear looks sick. 

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Press516 wrote:

I like Jo, but if Hymas can stay healthy, he’s the top dog next year.

You’re probably right. Hymas has more outright top end speed. (Eg gapping Deegan at Thunder Valley,  leading Unadilla moto 1 before his crash last year).

Jo hasn’t beaten Deegan in 1-1 battle like Hymas has at Thunder Valley. It’s always an opportunistic win for Jo (when Deegan has bad start, crashes, etc)

That said, Jo has much more consistency and has actually finished championships and shown speed at every track. That’s something Hymas needs to prove next year, because as of now he’s crashed out of every season or has weird struggles with health. Shimoda probably has better fitness as a result.

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mtbkris2 wrote:
When teams like star sign riders like pierce, are they signing them just looking for a random race win or two or do they sign these...

When teams like star sign riders like pierce, are they signing them just looking for a random race win or two or do they sign these people thinking they’ll bring home a championship for the team?  Genuine question, because when I look at riders like Thrasher, Smith, and Brown, I see riders that are guaranteed to give a flash or two of brilliance that’ll lead to a win or two, but never actually finish a season 

yak651 wrote:

Once Deegs is out of 250s people will start to question Stars results, especially outdoors

Oh, how ye have little faith.

Star knows how to make and hire ringers.

We might have to come take your YZ away. 😂

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8/9/2025 11:07am Edited Date/Time 8/9/2025 11:13am
Kyzer138 wrote:

Deegan complimented Joe, everyone gonna be ok? 

I like how we’ve gotten to the point where we have to point out when he doesn’t act like a dickhead and it’s somehow an ‘own’

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Dunno what the hell Patruel just said there lol

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The start is lined with American flags!!! Woooh!! 🇺🇸

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They are watering wtf someone is tucking the front on the 450 class…why ruin a perfect race track! 

🤣

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Kyzer138 wrote:

Deegan complimented Joe, everyone gonna be ok? 

aeffertz wrote:

I like how we’ve gotten to the point where we have to point out when he doesn’t act like a dickhead and it’s somehow an ‘own’

Deegs basically said Jo sucks in the first 3/4 of the series and he knows he’s coming on now lol

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mtbkris2 wrote:
When teams like star sign riders like pierce, are they signing them just looking for a random race win or two or do they sign these...

When teams like star sign riders like pierce, are they signing them just looking for a random race win or two or do they sign these people thinking they’ll bring home a championship for the team?  Genuine question, because when I look at riders like Thrasher, Smith, and Brown, I see riders that are guaranteed to give a flash or two of brilliance that’ll lead to a win or two, but never actually finish a season 

yak651 wrote:

Once Deegs is out of 250s people will start to question Stars results, especially outdoors

TeamGreen wrote:

Oh, how ye have little faith.

Star knows how to make and hire ringers.

We might have to come take your YZ away. 😂

Lol

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ohh_454 wrote:

Dunno what the hell Patruel just said there lol

“I love coming to America. The racing is Amazing. The food is crap. Some of the women are ok.” 🤣

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Let’s goooooo

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Go Eli go!

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Jett outside the top 20. 

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Chaaase, god damn it

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Hampshire! 

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Shit Sexton!!! mother tucker 

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-MAVERICK- wrote:

Jett outside the top 20. 

Must have gone down again I guess?

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You think Jett is flustrated? 

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-MAVERICK- wrote:

Jett outside the top 20. 

Mavetism wrote:

Must have gone down again I guess?

Paper knees Jett flinched and plowed the gate 

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Hcallz5 wrote:

Shit Sexton!!! mother tucker 

He still good for a top 3

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