2025 Lorretta Lynn MX Bench Racing/Discussion

Farmer J
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8/2/2025 3:32pm

Its scary how many stupid people are in this world. Why would you ever try and cheat in a kids class where you know the top bikes always get torn down? Blows my mind. 

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8/2/2025 3:40pm
Farmer J wrote:
Its scary how many stupid people are in this world. Why would you ever try and cheat in a kids class where you know the top...

Its scary how many stupid people are in this world. Why would you ever try and cheat in a kids class where you know the top bikes always get torn down? Blows my mind. 

Its actually really surprising. Thats Jessica Pattersons kiddo. Eddie Ray was fast as hell in the early 2000s too. 

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8/2/2025 3:47pm
Farmer J wrote:
Its scary how many stupid people are in this world. Why would you ever try and cheat in a kids class where you know the top...

Its scary how many stupid people are in this world. Why would you ever try and cheat in a kids class where you know the top bikes always get torn down? Blows my mind. 

Meister wrote:

Its actually really surprising. Thats Jessica Pattersons kiddo. Eddie Ray was fast as hell in the early 2000s too. 

Wow. I had no idea. That makes it even worse imo that it was well known people in the sport from the past. Did the kid win then get the dq? What was his finish before the dq?

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8/2/2025 3:53pm

MacNeil from iL. Just finished 9th in 13-16 super mini . He won a moto or ovr all sat or Sunday . At Xmas,Mi. In 125 class last yr.  Fast 25 up there last sat .  He might be getting too big for a super mini , if he raced a 125 last yr. IMG 3977 1

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MacNeil from iL. Just finished 9th in 13-16 super mini . He won a moto or ovr all sat or Sunday . At Xmas,Mi. In 125...

MacNeil from iL. Just finished 9th in 13-16 super mini . He won a moto or ovr all sat or Sunday . At Xmas,Mi. In 125 class last yr.  Fast 25 up there last sat .  He might be getting too big for a super mini , if he raced a 125 last yr. IMG 3977 1

Might be his brother too. There are 2 of them pretty close in age 

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8/2/2025 4:13pm
Farmer J wrote:
Its scary how many stupid people are in this world. Why would you ever try and cheat in a kids class where you know the top...

Its scary how many stupid people are in this world. Why would you ever try and cheat in a kids class where you know the top bikes always get torn down? Blows my mind. 

Meister wrote:

Its actually really surprising. Thats Jessica Pattersons kiddo. Eddie Ray was fast as hell in the early 2000s too. 

I really don't understand that you cheat in a PW class. That you are attracted to cheat in important classes like Supermini, 250B, ... than I would say two things: Did your kid knew and was he aboard and you gambled and lost. But taking your kid down with you while cheating in the PW class is crazy. And knowing that it wasn't "oh the bearings aren't ok? I'm sorry" but they prepped the bike with the whole chabang, damn! 

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8/2/2025 4:24pm

Sorry to jump in on the 10th page when this was probably discussed, but I saw the winner of one of the 250 classes was on a 250 Smoker & everyone behind him was 4 stroke 250's. 

I know 250 2T's are allowed at local races, but didn't think it was allowed at LL's level. Was there a rule change, or was I just under the impression that there was a 2T/4T CC rule in the 1st place?

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Farmer J wrote:
Its scary how many stupid people are in this world. Why would you ever try and cheat in a kids class where you know the top...

Its scary how many stupid people are in this world. Why would you ever try and cheat in a kids class where you know the top bikes always get torn down? Blows my mind. 

Meister wrote:

Its actually really surprising. Thats Jessica Pattersons kiddo. Eddie Ray was fast as hell in the early 2000s too. 

MXMattii wrote:
I really don't understand that you cheat in a PW class. That you are attracted to cheat in important classes like Supermini, 250B, ... than I...

I really don't understand that you cheat in a PW class. That you are attracted to cheat in important classes like Supermini, 250B, ... than I would say two things: Did your kid knew and was he aboard and you gambled and lost. But taking your kid down with you while cheating in the PW class is crazy. And knowing that it wasn't "oh the bearings aren't ok? I'm sorry" but they prepped the bike with the whole chabang, damn! 

Anyone that does this isn't worth a shit in my opinion. I feel bad for the kids because they dont know any better either. You're also just teaching them to cheat just don't get caught. I also feel bad for the kids that lost to cheaters and no one ever knew. 

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8/2/2025 4:26pm Edited Date/Time 8/3/2025 10:58am
Neverclear wrote:
Sorry to jump in on the 10th page when this was probably discussed, but I saw the winner of one of the 250 classes was on...

Sorry to jump in on the 10th page when this was probably discussed, but I saw the winner of one of the 250 classes was on a 250 Smoker & everyone behind him was 4 stroke 250's. 

I know 250 2T's are allowed at local races, but didn't think it was allowed at LL's level. Was there a rule change, or was I just under the impression that there was a 2T/4T CC rule in the 1st place?

They're legal for amateur racing and have been for a while.  

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8/2/2025 5:36pm

Decan Denno will be a triumph rider. 

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8/2/2025 5:59pm
Farmer J wrote:
Its scary how many stupid people are in this world. Why would you ever try and cheat in a kids class where you know the top...

Its scary how many stupid people are in this world. Why would you ever try and cheat in a kids class where you know the top bikes always get torn down? Blows my mind. 

Meister wrote:

Its actually really surprising. Thats Jessica Pattersons kiddo. Eddie Ray was fast as hell in the early 2000s too. 

Holy shit.  Is it really their kid?  That's very bad

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8/2/2025 6:21pm
Farmer J wrote:
Its scary how many stupid people are in this world. Why would you ever try and cheat in a kids class where you know the top...

Its scary how many stupid people are in this world. Why would you ever try and cheat in a kids class where you know the top bikes always get torn down? Blows my mind. 

Meister wrote:

Its actually really surprising. Thats Jessica Pattersons kiddo. Eddie Ray was fast as hell in the early 2000s too. 

Holy shit.  Is it really their kid?  That's very bad

Didn't hurt Deegan, so "when in Rome"

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8/2/2025 6:24pm
Meister wrote:

Its actually really surprising. Thats Jessica Pattersons kiddo. Eddie Ray was fast as hell in the early 2000s too. 

Holy shit.  Is it really their kid?  That's very bad

Gary Duck wrote:

Didn't hurt Deegan, so "when in Rome"

Literally this!

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8/3/2025 8:09am

Nicky Hayden AMA Motocross Horizon Award: Enzo Temmerman (Kawasaki)
 

Amateur rider of the year: Deacon Denno (KTM)
 

Vet rider of the Year award: Gregory “Frenchie” Pamart (Kawasaki)
 

Youth Rider of the Year Award: Sawyer Gieck (KTM)
 

Air Force Special Warfare AEGIS Award: Tayce Morgan (Yamaha
 

Oakley Fastest Lap award: Deacon Denno (KTM) with a 1:48.093 in the second moto of the Schoolboy 2 (12-17) B/C Class

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8/3/2025 8:24am
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Nicky Hayden AMA Motocross Horizon Award: Enzo Temmerman (Kawasaki) Amateur rider of the year: Deacon Denno (KTM) Vet rider of the Year award: Gregory “Frenchie” Pamart (Kawasaki) Youth Rider...

Nicky Hayden AMA Motocross Horizon Award: Enzo Temmerman (Kawasaki)
 

Amateur rider of the year: Deacon Denno (KTM)
 

Vet rider of the Year award: Gregory “Frenchie” Pamart (Kawasaki)
 

Youth Rider of the Year Award: Sawyer Gieck (KTM)
 

Air Force Special Warfare AEGIS Award: Tayce Morgan (Yamaha
 

Oakley Fastest Lap award: Deacon Denno (KTM) with a 1:48.093 in the second moto of the Schoolboy 2 (12-17) B/C Class

Vet rider of the yr is that new ?   How does it work a combo of points from 2 classes ? Greg won 50+ & did well in 45+ .    

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Neverclear wrote:
Sorry to jump in on the 10th page when this was probably discussed, but I saw the winner of one of the 250 classes was on...

Sorry to jump in on the 10th page when this was probably discussed, but I saw the winner of one of the 250 classes was on a 250 Smoker & everyone behind him was 4 stroke 250's. 

I know 250 2T's are allowed at local races, but didn't think it was allowed at LL's level. Was there a rule change, or was I just under the impression that there was a 2T/4T CC rule in the 1st place?

Farmer J wrote:

They're legal for amateur racing and have been for a while.  

2 strokes Have always been allowed

8/3/2025 11:21am

Has there ever been a LL pit bits? I imagine there is a huge difference pit to pit based on money, support, etc. Would be interesting to see how much it varies. 

 

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8/3/2025 8:58pm
yak651 wrote:

Congrats to Green Bay’s Broc Strobel, 9th in +40. Always a solid rider but never the fastest but keeps plugging away, impressive!

Yeah Broc did Awesome.  Aaron his brother raced the same class .  I think that’s a 1st at the race in 40+. 

yak651 wrote:

I didn’t even notice him there, my bad. They were never local A fast guys so impressive what they did. 

Thanks Brian. There was always faster guys than myself, but I did manage to win some 125 and 250A D16 races before I hung it up for the better part of my 20’s. We raced for fun and didn’t have the same opportunity as many. Could’ve absolutely done better with what I had, though. Tony is correct about our bikes. Aaron was on a completely stock bike. Mine has an exhaust and stiffer springs. I’ve raced outside of D16 four times before this year since starting in ‘91, so 10th is like a win for me. Appreciate you guys tuning in to watch. 

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8/4/2025 10:33am

Little League World Series is about to begin and Major League Baseball stops all games for a month. Wait, no. That doesn’t happen. 

Is con man DC and his family done ripping off the sport at the amateur level? Can we get back to professional racing please? 

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