Lakewood is not Short's home track

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Edited Date/Time 1/25/2012 11:27pm
If any thing it would be wildrat or Aztec. I went to many a local race at Thunder valley and only saw Andrew race there a handfull of times. There are also a lot of private tracks around Colorado springs that all the local pros ride at . Home state sure. Home track not.
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Oh, crap...Now we are doomed!Evil
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The track has had major changes the last week or so too. So it will be new for all. He'll Ivan has alot more laps there than AS.
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pretty sure this is his home track... and it isn't even in colorado...









not that is really makes any difference...
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Isnt his home track in Texas where his home is? JK! I agree with you that his home track is in c-springs where he grew up. But Thunder Valley is in his home state and he seems to always be motivated here and does pretty well. I know there will be a ton of colorado fans cheering him on!

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9/9/2010 11:06am
Then how come Whindam's home track is the Houston Supercross? They talk about it every year as if he was born in the Astrodome.

Any track in the same state, or even in the next state over can be considered a rider's home track - even if the rider never raced there growing up. And any track in Colorado is by default Andrew's track because he grew up racing those same high altitude conditions - more than any other rider on the circuit. Hell, even Freestone is now known as Andrew's home track because he lives 3 hours away in Smithville, Tx. Home field advantage means everything.

I wouldn't take the term "home track" so literally.
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9/9/2010 11:18am
Funny Shorts old motoworld rm 125 is going down the road in the back of a truck right next to me.
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9/9/2010 11:21am
I never got why they said San Diego was MC's home track either.

RJ, RL, Craig yes, MC? More like Pasadena or Anaheim.
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Don't forget Eli Tomac in Cortez @ 6200ft elevation. Cortez is nowhere near Denver, time will tell if they call Thunder Valley his home track in the future.
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I'm pretty sure Escondido is closer to San Diego than it is to Anaheim, especially with traffic.

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I'm pretty sure Escondido is closer to San Diego than it is to Anaheim, especially with traffic.

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You coming down for the party pie man
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I'm planning on it. My priorities are ride day then party.
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9/9/2010 11:43am
pie8man wrote:
I'm pretty sure Escondido is closer to San Diego than it is to Anaheim, especially with traffic.

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Just going to mention that, too...you beat me.

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9/9/2010 5:45pm
I saw him at Aztec the most when I lived down in the Springs. It was interesting just trying to stay on the same lap as him there.
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Cygnus wrote:
The track has had major changes the last week or so too. So it will be new for all. He'll Ivan has alot more laps there...
The track has had major changes the last week or so too. So it will be new for all. He'll Ivan has alot more laps there than AS.
Ivan more laps at Lakewood than Andrew?!? Now that's just getting carried away.

Yes, TECHNICALLY Andrew's "home track" was Aztec (and Wild Rat) but don't kid yourself, Andrew has TONS of laps at Lakewood as well. I don't know which Lakewood races you were attending all those years but trust me, Andrew was there. Ivan is the one (like Tomac) who usually only came to Lakewood for Loretta qualifiers.

There was obviously the period when none of us raced Lakewood because it was closed for a while, and that happened to be right when Andrew was coming up. But that was also the same exact time Ivan was, so don't think Ivan was somehow racking up more laps than Andrew at that time lol. Also don't forget that he's raced SRAC since he was on 60's! He's also done the Wednesday night practice there many times (I don't think Ivan logged the 6 hour trip from Albuquerque for that!).

Either way, the point is quite obvious that even if they completely redesigned Lakewood (there are indeed quite a few changes), Andrew will be feeling really comfortable with the dirt, the altitude, and his general surroundings. It's as close to the BMX track in his back yard in Black Forrest where he got his start, as the MXDN is ever going to get! Let's not split hairs. HUGE home field advantage, nuff said.

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VDR, (Valley Dirt Riders) Berthoud. Is it Still open? Andrew, probley never road there.
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Don't forget Eli Tomac in Cortez @ 6200ft elevation. Cortez is nowhere near Denver, time will tell if they call Thunder Valley his home track in...
Don't forget Eli Tomac in Cortez @ 6200ft elevation. Cortez is nowhere near Denver, time will tell if they call Thunder Valley his home track in the future.
Tomacs' home track is also Aztec (NM) or that one in Mancos that closed down, name escapes me now but it might have had the word wild in it too. The one at the (his) Hacienda is most likely the nicest. Could be BullHollow as well but I've never seen him there.
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Cygnus wrote:
Funny Shorts old motoworld rm 125 is going down the road in the back of a truck right next to me.
Back in 2004 I was at a local Central Texas track, Cross Creek, and this guy shows up with a Motoworld Suzuki in the back of his pickup - exactly the same as Andrew's, same number and all. I said to my buddy - this guy must really like Andrew Short. Turns out it was Andrew, and he came out and turned the fastest laps I had ever seen on that track. He was there with his future father-in-law, and they were both so friendly.

That is the day I learned what scrubbing truly was and I knew that I would never have the balls to do it myself. Andrew would hit a jump going full throttle, much faster than us regular folks hit the same jumps, but he would scrub speed so hard and always land perfectly on the downside. If I hit the same jump that fast I would launch into the stratosphere, but somehow Shorty did it right every time. It blew me away.
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Cygnus wrote:
The track has had major changes the last week or so too. So it will be new for all. He'll Ivan has alot more laps there...
The track has had major changes the last week or so too. So it will be new for all. He'll Ivan has alot more laps there than AS.
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Ivan more laps at Lakewood than Andrew?!? Now that's just getting carried away. Yes, TECHNICALLY Andrew's "home track" was Aztec (and Wild Rat) but don't kid...
Ivan more laps at Lakewood than Andrew?!? Now that's just getting carried away.

Yes, TECHNICALLY Andrew's "home track" was Aztec (and Wild Rat) but don't kid yourself, Andrew has TONS of laps at Lakewood as well. I don't know which Lakewood races you were attending all those years but trust me, Andrew was there. Ivan is the one (like Tomac) who usually only came to Lakewood for Loretta qualifiers.

There was obviously the period when none of us raced Lakewood because it was closed for a while, and that happened to be right when Andrew was coming up. But that was also the same exact time Ivan was, so don't think Ivan was somehow racking up more laps than Andrew at that time lol. Also don't forget that he's raced SRAC since he was on 60's! He's also done the Wednesday night practice there many times (I don't think Ivan logged the 6 hour trip from Albuquerque for that!).

Either way, the point is quite obvious that even if they completely redesigned Lakewood (there are indeed quite a few changes), Andrew will be feeling really comfortable with the dirt, the altitude, and his general surroundings. It's as close to the BMX track in his back yard in Black Forrest where he got his start, as the MXDN is ever going to get! Let's not split hairs. HUGE home field advantage, nuff said.

Paul
Thanks for chiming in Paul. I just think too much has been made of the home track advantage. I just hope he is feeling better and anchors the team. I should have said Ivan had better success at Lakewood not more laps. I will be cheering him on as much as all the rest.Cool
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Yes, Valley Dirt Riders (VDR) is still open and does quite well. Fat Pete (Iowa's most famous albino racer) is in charge of the place. Nice guy, still fast....
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Cygnus wrote:
The track has had major changes the last week or so too. So it will be new for all. He'll Ivan has alot more laps there...
The track has had major changes the last week or so too. So it will be new for all. He'll Ivan has alot more laps there than AS.
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Ivan more laps at Lakewood than Andrew?!? Now that's just getting carried away. Yes, TECHNICALLY Andrew's "home track" was Aztec (and Wild Rat) but don't kid...
Ivan more laps at Lakewood than Andrew?!? Now that's just getting carried away.

Yes, TECHNICALLY Andrew's "home track" was Aztec (and Wild Rat) but don't kid yourself, Andrew has TONS of laps at Lakewood as well. I don't know which Lakewood races you were attending all those years but trust me, Andrew was there. Ivan is the one (like Tomac) who usually only came to Lakewood for Loretta qualifiers.

There was obviously the period when none of us raced Lakewood because it was closed for a while, and that happened to be right when Andrew was coming up. But that was also the same exact time Ivan was, so don't think Ivan was somehow racking up more laps than Andrew at that time lol. Also don't forget that he's raced SRAC since he was on 60's! He's also done the Wednesday night practice there many times (I don't think Ivan logged the 6 hour trip from Albuquerque for that!).

Either way, the point is quite obvious that even if they completely redesigned Lakewood (there are indeed quite a few changes), Andrew will be feeling really comfortable with the dirt, the altitude, and his general surroundings. It's as close to the BMX track in his back yard in Black Forrest where he got his start, as the MXDN is ever going to get! Let's not split hairs. HUGE home field advantage, nuff said.

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Thanks for chiming in Paul. I just think too much has been made of the home track advantage. I just hope he is feeling better and...
Thanks for chiming in Paul. I just think too much has been made of the home track advantage. I just hope he is feeling better and anchors the team. I should have said Ivan had better success at Lakewood not more laps. I will be cheering him on as much as all the rest.Cool
No problem, I actually figured that might be what you meant but I had to make sure Smile



I've heard a lot of talk about the decision to put Short on the team so it's obviously a touchy subject. I'll give my opinion on the topic (the unbiased version) later on the Race X Motocross show.



Regardless of who's on the team, I'm sure we can all agree that this race will be epic! Anyone out there who is even considering skipping it, don't!! Smile



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I will be there to lose my voice screaming for USA on the sidelines!! Staying for a week in Lakewood at a good friends house. It's always a blast and I go at least once a year to Colorado! Anyone that wants to have too much fun Thursday and Friday before the race hit me up!
Got a pretty sweet place to stay at!
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Alright, tell us the story on "Pete" from Iowa.
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Yes, Valley Dirt Riders (VDR) is still open and does quite well. Fat Pete (Iowa's most famous albino racer) is in charge of the place. Nice...
Yes, Valley Dirt Riders (VDR) is still open and does quite well. Fat Pete (Iowa's most famous albino racer) is in charge of the place. Nice guy, still fast....
Thanks for the update. In the late 70s and early 80s, a guy named Felix ran the place.
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Well Highsider, it is a story filled with twist and turns. Pete started racing Honda 90's back in the late 60's and ended up burning most of his body. Not sure what the burn class was but it was enough to make most of his skin very shiny. Keep in mind that Pete is a full albino and bald since his teens. You could say Pete kinda stuck out like Johnny "O" when he as on team mugen...ALL BRIGHT WHITE.
I was racing in the 250 expert class in Keithsburg and some guy pulled right into me as I was lapping him...it was Pete . He tried to introduce himself while I lay on the ground...I told him I was busy trying to win the race...that was Pete always trying to be friendly .Pete actually took out a number of top riders over the years as they were being lapped....he said it was a good way to meet people. Over the years Pete put on weight....around 320 lbs, 5" 3". So Pete invented some pretty special suspenders and sold them around the country. Ultimately, the profit from his brain storm allowed him to purchase DVR.
Make no mistake, we always have the best camping spot @ Thundervalley (next to John Ayers and Davey Coomb's)...Pete went from being poor skinning kid in Iowa to mega power player in the world of MX promotions.
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Pete is not bald or a Albino.
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When did Pete get a wig and a spray on tan?
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Pete is not bald or a Albino.
Scott,Scott,Scott.....If you remember correctly I was lapping you & you got in the way,So I knocked you down....& I'm 5'10'' 250 lbs naked......

Shorts first mx race was at VDR.....
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Cygnus wrote:
If any thing it would be wildrat or Aztec. I went to many a local race at Thunder valley and only saw Andrew race there a...
If any thing it would be wildrat or Aztec. I went to many a local race at Thunder valley and only saw Andrew race there a handfull of times. There are also a lot of private tracks around Colorado springs that all the local pros ride at . Home state sure. Home track not.
Who fucking cares? He probably has more rides there than most pros. Just because it's in your home state it's no reason to turn into a dumbass pundit.

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